Sarah Jones (Stratton) - Need a curator please and thank you

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Sarah Jones
Capt. Richard Jones, Il
Col. Richard Jones, Ill
She is curated and both same named different ranks husbands are curated.
Bad merges suspected.

Sarah Jones (Stratton) MP
Gender: Female
Birth: 1694
Bermuda Hundred, Henrico County, Virginia Colony
Death: 1726 (31-32)
Bristol Parish, Prince George County, Province of Virginia
Immediate Family:
Daughter of Edward Stratton, Jr. and Martha Stratton (Shippey)
Wife of Capt. Richard Jones and Col. Richard Jones
Mother of Captain Robert Jones, of Mecklenburg; Capt Richard Jones, III; Col. Richard Jones, III; Peter Jones; Edward Jones; Daniel Jones; Prudence Ward (Jones) and Amy Jones « less
Sister of Elizabeth Chamberlain (Stratton); Martha Hughes Cox (Stratton); Edward Stratton, III; Mary Batte (Stratton); Prudence Anderson (Stratton); Anne Jennie Watson (Stratton); Frances Stratton and Elizabeth Chamberlain (Stratton)

I came here because of a merge request here:
Capt. Richard Jones, Il

It is NOT the same man

https://www.geni.com/merge/compare/6000000175964404832?return=dupli...

Husband ofSarah Jones (Stratton)Sarah Jones

Husband ofRachel Jones (Ragsdale)Husband ofRachel Jones (Ragsdale)

Merge undone.

Still not "fixed"

The FS page has changed....
I think that has contributed to the problem

Aboutedit | history
Col. Richard Jones was the son of Richard and Amy Batte Jones.

He served in the Amelia County VA Militia, beginning in 1736; and he represented Amelia County in the House of Burgesses from 1734 to 1736.

He married first Sarah Stratton, and second Margaret Jones, daughter of Peter and Mary Batte Jones.

From "Amelia County, Virginia Will Book 1, with Inventories and Accounts, 1734-1761", published in "The Virginia Genealogist", Vol. 17, (1973), edited by John Frederick Dorman, pp. 306-307: Pages 150a-151a.

This is from 2021--- https://www.geni.com/discussions/224369?msg=1611390

Col. Richard Jones - Need a curator please and thank you
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Started by Cynthia Curtis (Hicks), A183502, US7875087 on Saturday, January 9, 2021
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Cynthia Curtis (Hicks), A183502, US7875087 PRO
1/9/2021 at 4:19 PM
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Mother needs changed to Amy Battee, please, if FAG memorial is correct.

Wives need merged if applicable based on same: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/105939898/richard-jones; https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/106041380/margaret-jones

Thank you

Amy Jones is attached but is not an option in the parents relationship.

Who is responsible for the profiles, please?
The Discussion I started was January of two years ago.

And the relationships are locked so no spouse can be added either.

Stacked the merge: https://www.geni.com/merge/compare/6000000064700577826?return=merge...

The About reflects the FAG which says three wives.

Advise technical action requested. Managers are responsible.

"son" Capt Richard Jones, III Richard is added January 2021 from FAG and says he served in the Revolutionary War
I don't think I have worked on these since then, but the issues are still outstanding.
I will step off again.

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I can say this:

I see in Thomas Batte’s profile

1660 - Sometime before this year, Thomas Batte married a woman named Mary. They will have three daughters and a son.

I see

U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900

Birth, Marriage & Death

Name Amy Butler

Spouse Thomas Batte

Spouse Birth Year 1634 Spouse Birth Place En

I see

Thomas and Mary (Randolph) Batte, Sr.'s children were:

1. Thomas Batte, Jr. (m. Temperance Browne) 2. Mary Batte (m. Peter Jones, Jr.) 3. Martha Batte (m. 1st., Abraham Jones, 2nd., John Bannister, Sr. and 3rd., Stephen Cocke) 4.Sarah "Sallie" Batte (m. John Evans) 5. Robert Batte 6. Elizabeth Batte

Married 2nd., ...

Husband of Amy (Butler) Batte

Child ...

Amy Batte (m. Richard Jones, Sr.)* Reference: Find A Grave Memorial - SmartCopy: Jan 9 2021, 18:52:16 UTC

BUT Amy Batte Jones was born 1666 so she’s from the 1st wife, right?

Her husband was Richard Jones (b 1660) (Son of Richard Jones and Martha)

And that’s who I see in notes and in the tree.

What needs fixing then?

The About should match the locked profile and the FAG may be incorrect but if this is known to be incorrect, the memorial manager can be alerted.
Right now the profile has issues since 2021 or longer

Managers cannot make corrections on a locked profile.
Even though the mother is listed as father's wife, she is not available in the drop down meaning it is locked for her.

These are same or similar named people and curated profiles.
I came to them again today because they were in my merge center and I was trying to empty out my requests.

So it’s the about that needs fixing. OK, I’ll work on that for you.

N.B. I don’t deal with external sites, sorry. Geni is enough for me. :)

Erica Howton its several curated profiles.
I do not understand your question/ response.

I am not advocating for a line.
I am not asking for a favor.
I am not a descendant.
I have stopped working on them again.

As always, thank you for what youdo to help make the Big Tree correct, Erica Howton
It’s a cicsyphus kind of day

* Sisyphus

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087 - the thread title is “curator please help.” So I’m asking, how can I help? I’m not a descendant or researcher, either. And I don’t know what it is you’re seeing that a curator can help with, unless you tell me.

There’s a problem with the three wives listed at FindAGrave for Capt. Richard Jones, Il

Supposedly he’s the son of (Peter Jones & Margaret).

But my curator note says that Amy Batte married Col Richard Jones (b 1660) (Son of Richard Jones and Martha).

So I have to presume the F.A.G. may be mixed up, which is very easy to do with the very confusing Jones families.

So my plan is to stay with the Master Profile values and locks, and clarify the “abouts” and curators notes.

Fair deal?

There was no 2nd wife for Thomas Batte, Sr.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Batte-58#_note-Torrence

Thomas Batte’s Alleged Second Wife

According to William Clayton Torrence, Thomas married twice, his second wife being called Amy, who had married three times before.[5] Weis says the same in The Magna Carta Sureties - he describes Amy as "widow of __Butler, Essex Bevill and Henry Kent."[17] Kathryn Gearhart confusingly and inaccurately states on a Wordpress site that Thomas "married Amy Butler, and then married two more times to Amy then Mary Randolph." No sourcing is given.[18] The suggestion that Thomas married an Amy appears to stem from a confusion with a Thomas Bott who married someone called Amy.[19]

From https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Jones-8765

Find A Grave: Memorial #67626819 Col. Richard Jones (1660-1747) states that his parents were Peter Jones and Martha Llewellyn. "Peter" appears to be a mistake and Richard was meant. The memorial states that Richard married three times: (1) Sarah "Sallie" Stratton, (2) Amy Batte, and (3) Rachel Ragsdale. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/67626819 A request has been sent to FindAGrave asking that Peter Jones and Margaret Lewelyn Wood be removed as parents.

So this Jones line looks to me like:

1. Rev. Richard Jones m Martha Jones

2. Capt. Richard Jones, Il m 1) Amy Jones 2) Rachel Jones

3. Col. Richard Jones, Ill m 1) Sarah Jones 2) Margaret (Jones) Jones daughter of Capt. Peter Jones & Mary Jones - Amy’s sister. Therefore, cousins.

Yes, these profiles should be locked. They were the devil to get right the 1st six times. :). Hopefully the more detailed blue box of Curator Notes will make it easier on any revisits.

So, now, what can curators do for you?

Erica Howton it looks like you “did it”
Thank you

7th time is the charm.

Pulling the notes from the About and will do clean up on it tomorrow

Actually, is everything correct on the About for Col. Richard Jones, Ill except the first line about who parents are?

It says mother is Amy Jones but shows as the other wife and Amy does not appear in the drop down

Amy Batte Jones had no children, as per the curator notes on Amy Jones & Capt. Richard Jones, Il and the relationship lock.

I’ll fix the Col, add a curator note, and lock relationships.

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