Philip III, "the Bold" king of France - Curator Alert: Misspelling

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Basiqlique —> Basilique

Also, somehow armée transferred as armée.

Philip III, "the Bold" king of France is your 21st great grandfather.

Sacrilege! :O
Just kidding, thanks Private User but the cause of death was editable.
(since I was there I internationalized it in English:)

& I'm convinced that among the 300+ admins who will receive this notification, there will be a kind (C) who will correct the "Basilique" in the burial place locked :*

Philip III, "the Bold" king of France is my 20th great grandfather.

Philip III, "the Bold" king of France is your 21st great grandfather.

Philip III, "the Bold" king of France is your 22nd great grandfather.(my biological maternal Lineage)
Philip III, "the Bold" king of France is your fourth great grandfather's wife's 15th great uncle.(my biological paternal Lineage).

Before

Philip III, "the Bold" king of France is my 20th great grandfather.

Now

Philip III, "the Bold" king of France is your 19th great grandfather.
🤔

I don't know, but I see strange 2022 movements by "usual known" on:
- Pedro Afonso Pires, cavaleiro da Casa Real

& new usual DUP lines from the usual..
2023 Pedro Afonso Pires, cavaleiro da Casa Real

Joaquim Telêmaco Carneiro, [de Mello] if some good bold native Portuguese speaker doesn't figure out what the noobs from the former colonies are up to, soon you'll find him, that of England, & Napoleon too as DAD...
look now ;)

Livio Scremin most controversial and true issue in genealogy studies are the origins of the Sources that prove the historical facts to make them LEGITIMATE, isn't it? But, unfortunately, many Sources end up becoming "dubious" to legitimately prove the facts, as they are based on books whose authors simply state "yes" or "no" but do not have proof... thus leaving these paths attackable, or by a personal or political option...thus contributing to controversial opinions.
It would be great if we managed to invent a machine to travel in time... I believe that the "True Genealogists" would queue to travel... and GENI would no longer have such concerns ; )

in reality everything is less professional than we imagine, after years of observing the heart of Europe, I have noticed a recurring "modus operandi":

"New" users import not only whatever is online, but also they create random things convinced that "smart machs".. (vague correspondences to study, designed for contemporary trees, not even remotely designed for the Middle Ages)
..convinced that smart machs.. are a sort of all encompassing "AI", who knows everything and shows him the way.. then "yes yes, merge merge, forward forward to all" ..and the game is done ^^'
*https://www.geni.com/discussions/257429?msg=1633876
[now in the west side.. there are some well-known names of daredevil users, that it really seems impossible to instruct them:]

Livio Scremin
Agree, it is a never ending problem, unless, all profiles created before 2015 regarding medieval profiles and before that, starting from 1600 and back, being automatic locked, whereof changes only can be done after starting a thread concerning the affected profile, about what is wrong or missing, with the correct valid source to prove it.

I don't know, the "block road" has led to many problems so far..
..the problem is that all around my private life I notice a general downgrade all around:

- not only completely analogical people, catapulted into digital with a mobile phone in their hand.. who only carry out the "orders" of the device.

- but also a cognitive dawngrade of who now does everything from a wicked 6'', convinced that he can do everything, fast & right from there.. between one traffic light and another, with a sandwich in hand.. etc etc.

..if you ask me, cognitive tests as you want to go up for the centuries progressively I think is the only way :D

They recently released a danish norwegian scientific article regarding declining intelligence, from which they stated that after 1975, no more children are born who are smarter than their parents, man is getting dumber with each new generation, sure there are probably a few exceptions, but they are not active here at geni, which is unfortunate, we need more, not less brain capacity!

@Private User

@Private User

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Philip III, "the Bold" king of France is my 24th great uncle.

Joaquim Telêmaco Carneiro, [de Mello] I'll tell you more ^^'
/!\ according to the Portuguese & Catalan wiki etc. etc. the second marriage of Afonso V the African, King of Portugal produced no children /!\

Com sua segunda mulher, Joana, a Excelente Senhora, princesa de Castela (1462-1530), não deixou descendência.
-https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afonso_V_de_Portugal

Es casà, en segones núpcies, el 30 de maig de 1475 amb la seva neboda Joana la Beltraneja, filla d'Enric IV de Castella i Joana de Portugal. D'aquesta unió, no legalitzada per la Santa Seu, no hi hagué descendència. El matrimoni es dissolgué el 1479.
-https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfons_V_de_Portugal

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@Livio Scremin To be or not to be, that's the question! I ask: What is your opinion about this information? Do you think this proves anything?

@Private User

Joaquim Telêmaco Carneiro, [de Mello] unfortunately you ask the question from the wrong point of view, in the thread unrelated to the profiles where you want to place it..
..the question is: historical studies on a medieval European king indicate that he had no children from his second marriage, even dissolved perhaps for this very reason:
What proofs do all the would-be descendants of the former South American colonies have to descend from this king?
Not why, at some point someone in the new world proclaims himself a descendant of noble lineage to rule.. but how do they manage every blessed time to have some unknown son borne by queens of whom everything is known, finished every holy time ruling overseas?

yes yes I have seen all your personal direct contacts, but believe me you don't have to convince me of anything, just ask yourself this question.. and please provide the evidence publicly, lost legitimate medieval princes are absolutely in the public interest..
Try ask to (C) Erica Howton how many did she know here :D

Philip III, "the Bold" king of France is your 6th cousin 16 times removed.
Afonso V the African, King of Portugal is your 11th cousin 10 times removed.

Lost medieval princes are about as frequent as countesses who emigrated to Puritan New England. That is, none.

Erica Howton allow me to introduce you to the latest suitor:
Dom Gonçalo Afonso D'Aviz Trastâmara Fernandes !

occupation: Scudiero (squire:)
wants to be born on 1475 by 13 year old queen (MP locked abandoned) (married may 30,1475 to 1479)

father of 17 children with who knows what offspring..
until yesterday the 18th was: Pedro Afonso Pires, cavaleiro da Casa Real ..
not even the DIY cited as a source lists him as a royal nephew! (Rootsweb!!)
a note was enough that maybe guy thinks that .. and off here on GENI all of South America..
Progetti Recenti
Descendants of Edward III of England :)
Descendants of the first King of Portugal, D.Afonso I Henriques, The Founder :D
Descendants of Charlemagne XD

It is disputed that Joana de Trastâmara, rainha consorte de Portugal married Afonso V the African, King of Portugal

In any event she had no children.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afonso_V_of_Portugal

Afonso married firstly, in 1447, Isabella of Coimbra, with whom he had three children:

  1. John, Prince of Portugal (29 January 1451).
  2. Joan, Princess of Portugal (6 February 1452 – 12 May 1490): Known as Saint Joan of Portugal or Saint Joan Princess.
  3. John II of Portugal (3 March 1455 – 25 October 1495): Succeeded his father as 13th King of Portugal.

Afonso married secondly, in 1475, his niece Joanna of Castile, known as "La Beltraneja".

Firstly, this is not the appropriate place to discuss this topic (Dom Gonçalo Afonso D'Aviz Trastâmara Fernandes), I had already created this debate in 2022 (https://www.geni.com/discussions/247544 cited above ) on this question where I've been waiting for ANSWERS FOR SOME TIME, this is "less professional" mr. Livio Scremin and Mrs. Érica Howton, so please respect the topic (Philip III, "the Bold" king of France - Curator Alert: Misspelling) opened by Mr. Ken and I would like to take this opportunity to recommend to GENI that they create rules so that this does not happen again.

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