Germain Savoie - Savoir in NOVA SCOTIA

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While there has been a great deal of discussion speculating on supposed blood kinship between early Canadian pioneer François Savoie with French nobility, I had at one point commented on the fact that in the records the name appeared to be written, "Savoir" with an "R" rather than an "E". I linked the official records when I made my post awhile back.

These descendants of Francois Joseph Savoie were among the Acadians evicted from Nova Scotia, later settling in Louisiana, etc.

Today I happened to stumble across an old book, "Selections from the Public Documents of the Province of Nova Scotia" published in 1869 by the office of the commissioner of public records in Nova Scotia.

https://archive.org/details/selectionsfrompu00nova/page/n48/mode/1up

On image 49 we find a lengthy list of Acadians who were compelled to take an oath of fidelity to the king of England, George II. Among them are several Savoirs (no Savoies), listed below:

Germain Savoir
Germain Savoir Cobett
Paul Savoir
Jean Savoir
Charles Savoir

Other names which may be of interest to this family are:

Pierre Brou
Jean Breau
Ambroise Breau
Joseph Levron
Charles Pellerin
Bernarde Pellerin
Alexandre Pellerin
Jean-Baptist Pellerin
Francois Corporon
Pierre Prijean
Charles Prijean
Joseph Prijean
Jean Pryjean
Honore Pryjean

Germain Savoie
Germain Savoie, II
Jean Savoie
Paul B. Savoie
Charles Savoie

Pierre Breau
Jean Breau
Unknown Breau

Joseph Levron

Jean-Baptiste Pellerin
Bernard Pellerin
Alexandre Pellerin
Charles Pellerin

Francois Corporon

Jean Prejean
Jean-Baptiste Préjean
Joseph Christome Prejean
Charles Prejean dit LeBreton
Pierre Prejean
Honoré Préjean

Also Doucett and Boudreau, among others I may have missed.

I guess my main point is that "Savoie" just never shows up in the records from what I gather, only Savoir. Obviously the name was changed somewhere along the line. But when, and by whom?

interesting Debra, I suppose to always let it go, then the mistakes become certified history.

And thinks that I from the scan: https://www.geni.com/photo/view?album_type=photos_of_me&id=6000...

uploaded in 2022 by USER: Joel Scott Cognevich

tagged on François Savoie & Françoise Savoie & a dozen of relative Savoie..
so at first sight I would read: " Scavois " ^^'

Yes, Scavois is the 'old' or earlier form of Savoir and Savois.

In records clerks wrote names in many variations of spelling, particularly those with similar pronunciation such as Scavois, Savois, Savoir -- and even Savoie or Savoye.

So I always try to find at least one relevant document that has been clearly autographed by an educated member of the family who could read and write.

Another geni member, in the discussion linked above, referred us to the following document dated 1756 and autographed on p. 3 by one Jeann Andres SAVOIR. On the same document (p. 2), is someone whose first name I can't decipher easily, but whose surname appears to be Trayal.

"Francois Savoie" and wife, Catherine LeJeune, had a daughter, "Marie" who married Jacques Triel dit LaPerriere ; and they had at least one son, Pierre.

Not sure whether this Jeann Andres Savoir was directly related or where he may have fit into the tree (no sons of that name are shown here), however even within this very same document, the clerk repeatedly spelled the name with a more ancient form "Scavoier".

However I am always slightly more interested in how individuals sign their own names, with their own hand.

Nevertheless, information provided with this official land-related document, states, "This document directly concerns: André Scavoier (Savoir, Savoie, Savois), Acadian;"

So despite clerical 'misspellings' and this individual's direct documentation with their own signature, the government does indeed acknowledge "Savoie" as a variant of the family surname.

..."Savoie" just seems to be, based on early records I've seen, a much later variant spelling. One that doesn't affect the pronunciation at all.

https://numerique.banq.qc.ca/patrimoine/details/52327/3414107?docre...

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