A New Curator Policy Observation #1

Private User

) If this is a general rule you would like to implement - you need to send your request to Geni.

2) if it is related to a particular profile where you think you have lost control over profile you have added, you should specify it.

Thank you Annber for a detailed and very precise response.

That was a very nice post, Amber. Thank you.

To add a couple things...

1) When we make a profile a Master Profile, we do not become the only people "controlling" it. The managers are still the managers, and other users can still work on the profile. The only exception is locked profiles, and those are extremely rare.

2) Sometimes users are upset when we lock fields, but we only do that in cases where there is consistent confusion or inaccurate edits, or where we are absolutely certain that the fields are correct and cannot be improved upon. (I personally lock cited, complete fields on profiles I curate.) But if a field is locked with inaccurate or incomplete info, you can (and should!) contact the curator and let us know so we can update the fields.

3) Curators are imperfect, and sometimes we do make mistakes or wrong decisions. We're generally happy to fix those situations, but if you think a curator has done something inappropriate and isn't responsive to your feedback, you can always write to misconduct@geni.com for assistance. That's a much, much more effective approach than a discussion thread, especially since Geni management don't usually follow these public threads.

May I second Jadranka's compliments to Annber and also congratulate Annber for a most insightful and accurate summation of the situation.

Thanks also to Ashley "through the eyes of a Curator" and it also contains useful insights too.

Hi Branko, I am a little surprised, given the length of time you have been a Geni user that you have only just discovered and MP on your area of the tree. I would point you to read the message above from Amber Lynn Collins who is NOT a curator but knows her stuff it seems..

I simiply emphasise that an active user does not lose control when a profile is made MP unless the fields have been locked. In these circumstances please do contact the Curator in question with your information.

We're a friendly, helpful bunch of people.
Wishing you luck researching your family tree.

Terry (in Oxfordshire)

Private User: Which of "your" profiles has been made MP, please? How did it harm you, please?

I am sorry that you are disappointed by the MP feature, and I know that we won't change your mind about its value. I respect that you have your own opinion.

But we need to stick to facts, and for the benefit of others reading, I want to stress that it's simply not true that an MP means that curators "take over the full control of a profile that you didn't create." As stated above, managers and even non-managers can still work on an MP the same way they would any other profile. It's literally not possible for us to remove managers from MPs outside our Family Groups. The managers lose no rights when an MP is made. The only exception to that is locked profiles, which are a miniscule percentage of MPs.

It sounds like perhaps there's a fully locked MP that you'd like to work on and can't. If the curator is not responsive to you, I again encourage you to write to the e-mail address above for assistance.