N.N. - Apples to Afallach

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Afallach (Old Welsh Aballac) is a man's name found in several medieval Welsh genealogies, where he is made the son of Beli Mawr. According to a medieval Welsh triad, Afallach was the father of the goddess Modron. The Welsh redactions of Geoffrey of Monmouth's Historia Regum Britanniae, Brut y Brenhinedd, associate him with Ynys Afallach, which is substituted as the Welsh name for Geoffrey's Insula Avalonsis (Island of Avalon), but this is fanciful medieval etymology and it is more likely his name derives from the Welsh word afall "apple tree" (modern Welsh afal "apple", afallen "apple tree" cf. Proto-Celtic *aballo- "apple"); from which, granted, the name of Avalon is also often thought to derive, so that the meaning of "Afallach" is associated but not necessarily directly. In the tale of Urien and Modron he is referred to by his daughter as the King of Annwn, therefore he may originally been cognate with Arawn or Gwyn or perhaps all three were once regional variants of the same Deity.

If Anne or Erica is no this, they know and they don't let anything by, they see everything and told what to snip and block people from finding anything that connects to wealthy and royalty, ya know the answers you read them but, they will not give the son a father, in some case the child is not there, and nn means that there is a strong link to hide either the past and future. Lets not hide the links to the past and the future no more we are here to connect the world, and don't put anything out, you will get it snipped

The reason that N.N. is used in this place, rather than the name of Affalach, which of course is seen in the names of Euddolen and Owain ab Afallach, is that Euddolen and Owain are in the Geni tree because they are, to the best of our knowledge, humans, and Affalach is not connected to the World Tree because he is, as you point out above, mythological.

The Affalach that you are referring to is here -- Afallach ap Beli, {Fictional, “Urien and Modron”}

OH, by the way -- it's common for medieval genealogies to move from human ancestors into mythological ones; that's why, in many current genealogies, you see them showing up together. The reason that we don't do that is that, after many years of talking about it, it's been decided to disconnect mythological figures from the World Tree. A great many users were very upset about seeing mythological ancestors.

So, they are all still on the site, just not connected to the Tree. So we are all free to believe, if we like, that we are descended from mythological figures. We just aren't here.

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