Hugh de Venables, 8th Baron Kinderton - Est. Dates Quandaries

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NOTE 1: Note the immense age gap between the two eldest children: William de Venables, 9th Baron of Kinderton – b. before 1275 – and Alice de Venables – b. ca. 1294 ... a 19 year gap! They with their siblings' order of births and estimated assignments could use some rethinking. Some birth years are bunched tight with two supposedly born in one year.

NOTE 2: We don't have a viable source giving an estimated marriage year for Hugh (b. ca. 1256) and Agatha (b. ca. 1260), but I think those are okay. HOWEVER, considering their profiles' birth estimates, Agatha's child bearing years becomes increasingly implausible after 1300, when Agatha was age 40—the last child showing birth ca. 1315 when she was about age 55.

NOTE 3: I suggest that Reginald and John may’ve been born before Hugh, and if so they'd have died before William died when Hugh became the next Baron of Kinderton.

NOTE 4: For daughters Elizabeth, Rohese, Isabella, Ellen, I have (as of now) no suggested rationales for adjusting their birth years earlier except to say considering mother Agatha’s childbearing years could be part of rethinking. Here's what Wikitree shows for the family of Hugh and Agatha:

NOTE 5: I note Hugh's Wikitree profile ( https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Venables-92 ), which purports has Elizabeth b. abt. 1275 and Ellen abt. 1299. A few children are not hyperlinked, but they are found in the Bio. Nothing there sheds helpful light.

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