You did have Sir John Marshall's wife as Lady Hawise Hingham (Hawise de Say, Lady Marshall), with no parents listed . Now when you put her link in it comes up to this new link for Lady Hawise Marshall (de Say). This list her parents as William de Say ,III and Sibyl de Say. Is this the same William de Say as this one, William III de Saye, Governor of Rochester Castle, Lord of West Greenwich (William III de Saye, Governor of Rochester Castle, Lord of West Greenwich) and is Sibyl the same as this one (Sybil Marshal, Lady de Say)? It appears to me her parents have 2 profiles with one has a lot more information about the family and their lines.