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There is no such person as William David Crockett III. No father has been found for David the elder Crockett.

DNA has absolutely proved that David the elder Crockett is not related to Joseph Louis Crockett. I am co-administrator for the Crockett Y-DNA Project. The family that includes Davy Crockett is I-M 223. The family that includes, Descendants of Joseph Louis, Robert (Watkins) Crockett is R-M269. Please look at the project on https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Crockett?iframe=ydna-results-o...

The family that includes Anthony Crockett of Kentucky, and descendants of Joseph Louis Crockett is Group 5.

Relatives of Davy Crockett are in Group 2.

They are using my DNA test to connect these families together. I am not related to a William David Crockett or Joseph Louis Crockett.

Please delete William David Crockett III or come up with anything that shows he existed. If you wish to keep this fictious person, disconnect him with William 'the elder" Crockett.

I am contacting you about this profile: William Crockett, of Bantry Bay

Sincerely,

Ronald Wayne Crockett
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Thank you very much for your messages.

  • Parents of David Crockett, ‘the Elder’ have been removed and relationships locked; curator notes added and DNA comments added. The Y DNA test result now shows correctly on profile, I think. There's an old Y upload from 2016 that is showing as a DNA conflict, but that may simply be an old test nomenclature as compared with your current results. However, it does need further investigation.
  • Taking apart the tree for William Crockett, of Bantry Bay showing as son of Captain Joseph Louis Crockett is a more daunting task. I'm hoping Dan Cornett and others can assist with an approach to it.

I'm looking at the attached children and spouses ...

I made progress yesterday on Agnes Crockett who was a second wife. But running into confusion with this DAR record:

https://services.dar.org/Public/DAR_Research/search_adb/?action=ful...

Which give dates for William that conflict with Agnes Ritchie's children being "bound out" to Ritchie relatives (?)

There are (at least) 3 different William Crockett's "smooshed" together on this profile currently.

Proposed:

  • William (b. 1709) (most managers & attached "smart matches"). Possibly the son of Joseph Louis.
  • William (b. abt 1722-d. abt 1769) d. at Prince Edward County. Possibly the son of John, son of Joseph Louis. Married 1) Mary unknown, children: Col. Anthony, possibly "Uncle Billy," and possibly John. Married 2) Agnes Ritchie. Children (bound out to the Ritchie family) Hamilton, Sarah, Mary, Alexander. See: https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:William_Crockett_%2813%29
  • Ens. William (1731-1816). DAR Record. Wife & children showing incorrectly at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Crockett-282

See: Agnes Crockett & Mary? Crockett



Additional information:

From https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/crockett/3503/

Our ancestor Anthony Crockett's son Granville Crockett, left a record saying that Anthony's father was William Crockett. It is probable therefore, that Anthony was the son of William, who was born 1709 at New Rochelle, NY, the fourth son of Joseph 1 and Louise DeSaix Crockett. However, it is possible that Anthony was the son of William Crockett, a grandson of Joseph Louis and Louise Crockett by their son John born in Ireland in 1707.

Anthony Crockett, our ancestor, was born in Prince Edward Co., Virginia, Nov 19, 1754. There is no record of his mother. His parents died when he was about ten years old, after which he lived with a relative, Samuel Crockett (note DLamel This Samuel's wife was Esther Thompson), in Botetourt Co., Va., until 1776. ....

FYI: I looked at the merges as far back as they can possibly be undone, and as long ago as May of 2015 (oldest reversible merge) this William already had 3 wives attached (Agnes Ritchie; Elizabeth Boulay; Hannah Wilson), so there is no help there to try unmerging to separate spousal families.

WikiTree currently only has mention of Agnes RItchie as a wife of a William Crockett in a note on the profile, but is not currently connected there as a wife (no spouses are shown on that WikiTree William profile at the moment).

There are two children still attached on WikiTree: Charles Hamilton Crockett and Sarah Crockett Cardwell. They may correspond to Hamilton Crockett and Sarah Cardwell.

I'm disconnecting the Elizabeth Boulay spouse in hopes that will make it cleaner to resolve the children attached to her. The only references I'm finding are all connected to the (most likely fictitious) "French" branch of "de Crocketagne" (which has no shred of evidence found in France).

(Not using link here, but starting a separate discussion under her profile.)

You didn't start the discussion yet but I think I found Eliza Boulay. To be checked: she was the wife of John Crockett (son of Joseph Louis), and children included "cousin Col.Joseph" who served with Col. Anthony (William's son) in the Rev. War.

https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Eliza_Boulay_%281%29

Thanks for that link, Erica. That got her connected to a different branch ... and got rid of her two bogus children (which were an attempt to connect to the famous Davy Crockett

Next is to figure out about Hannah; the link back to FamilySearch.org currently only has an isolated Hannah ... no spouse or family.
Probably have to work on children ... she has a lot of descendants -- but none of them Geni users.

I feel confident about the William who married Agnes Ritchie and would like to spin them off. Temporarily as son of William 1707?

Here's the new William Crockett, of Prince Edward County (d. abt 1767) who married Agnes Crockett The most descendants however are through the son of his first wife, Mary? Crockett Col. Anthony Crockett; it's a descendant of Col. Anthony who tested at FamilyTreeDNA and was placed in Group 5 (Y DNA haplogroup R-M269).

All are welcome to request profile management. I don't think this William's parents can be placed definitively for now, as I think he could have been related back in Ireland, although it seems more likely he was born in Virginia.

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