ATTENTION Curators, please assist

Susan Mary Rayner (Green) ( Ryan)...
and any other member with similar concerns, please see my new discussion related to the NEW MATCHES at
http://www.geni.com/discussions/123141

Susan Mary Rayner (Green) ( Ryan) those are not additional Geni matches. Those are a new type of match that is telling you that the profile is also on MyHeritage. In the matches box, the first one shows Geni matches. These are in the third box - MyHeritage.

Not everyone is on Geni. With these matches, I have found a lot of family that was maintaining trees in MyHeritage.

Okay am I the only one on geni bothering to clear these New Matches. Personally I prefer to clear them so its done. I have worked through over 1000 of them and im finding glitches in them. When I report them to curators I have been told not to bother them. Certainly reporting and issue with a profile should not be looked on as bothering or nagging a curator in any way . I totally know how it works as I have worked through over 1000 of them.
Issues to date are
1.the new match issue in the profile gives no access to it and it is coming up on my matches ..meaning it is showing matched there is no button attached on click on and work with.
2. When clicking on the new match link the page shows the check boxes but when you click on them they take you to a my heritage subscription page. THIS IS A GLITCH AS THIS SHOULD NOT HAPPEN
3. When clicking on a new match it take you to the geni home page and not to the page where the matches can be checked off
4. When click on the media link it only works occasional and asks for My heritage subscription. THIS DOES NOT OCCUR WHIT EVERY ONE SO THEREFORE IS A GLITCH.

I could probably name further issues. I am aware this is now an integrated part of geni. And the curators have a lot to deal with . BUT if not reported how will you know there is a problem and if these are locked profiles then they should be dealt with.
In some profiles in these new matches there are 58 matches that have come up .Perhaps it would of been easier to have merged them on My Heritage before linking them to geni. I have read the new matches section but will read it again
Please do not take offence to this posting
SueG

Susan Mary Rayner (Green) ( Ryan), Some thoughts...

1) You should only be able to accept matches on a profile you can edit in your Max Family OR Ancestors up to 20 generations OR managed by you. If it's outside this area, you won't be able to confirm or reject a match.
2) Do you have a data subscription with MyHeritage. Some of the matches are free, but most are not. If you have a data subscription, you shouldn't hit a pay wall.
3) Not sure about that
4) Might be related to #2

I got some of your examples (as I was also on some of the messages) and didn't see any problems with them. I could not confirm them because I didn't have permission (#1), but it looked ok.

Not at all Sue. I'm glad you're bringing them up and I'm impressed with your hard work.

I just confirmed one result you had had, but some of others you've mentioned I'm not getting similar. You do need to be a manager to confirm / reject a proposed SmartMatch or record match but that's not true for blue tree matches (within Geni).

I'm happy to work with you directly, perhaps via messaging, to investigate some of the glitch areas? We'll both learn.

Jeff,
Why cant I then contact the curator involved with the profile and get them to clear it.
All I am getting is negative from doing this.
Surely it should not be a issue. When I have been coming across a profile I can not deal with I have sent out a message to the managers or curator of that profile and asked if they can fix it or look at it. Is the not the best way to deal with it?
SueG

I certainly have no problem being contacted for any profile you need help clearing a match on.

I'm working on clearing them as well, so trust me, you aren't the only one on Geni working on it :) I think its great you have gotten thru over 1000! If we all work on them the World Tree will be much better for it I'm sure!

Contact me any time. If I can't do it , I will let you know why.

Private User what is the criteria for Smart Matches to determine FREE vs PAYWALL?

Alex Moes, I believe all Smart Matches are pay wall. Tree Matches are free. Record Matches are mixed - here is what is listed as free Records from the FAQ: "Records from the Find-a-Grave, US Census, Social Security Death Index, some military and other collections are free for everyone."

http://help.geni.com/entries/23634192-What-records-can-I-access-for...

Thanks for that, Jeff.

Mixed messages getting about.

The first day of the Smart Merges i was approving left and right with nary a pay-wall in sight, no longer the case.
It is a pity as i have about 350 Smart Matches but only 4 Record Matches, ironically the Smart Matches seem quite accurate but the Record Matches have all been wrong.

As for the Tree Matches, well i haven't noticed any increase in those this week.

Alex don't base everything on the 1st day of a major implementation, I sure don't.

I am getting very good accuracy on both record & smart matches, I just have different expectations of the quality of the source data. Interesting difference in our testing.

WikiTree matches are designated as Smart Matches™ and seem to be free.

See for example the 43 Smart Matches™ currently on Rachel Felt

The bottom two at the moment are designed free WikiTree matches.

Thanks David, Alex Moes, I forgot about WikiTree. Of course, they're looking at adding other sources as well, which may be free.

Oh, and actually Tree Matches require a pro membership I think.

Yes tree matches requires Geni Pro.

While WikiTree records can be viewed without a MH login, confirming a WikiTree match on a Geni profile still requires a MH login - though perhaps not a paid one?

I believe so David (Wikitree & the other free collections)

Alex please forgive me for not being very technical. All I can do is talk about my own experiences and use ancestry.com as the comparison.

Scanning through newspaper articles is more difficult in terms of matching so my expectation is more "false hits" than comparing record to record. The same for census: I did not get a hit when the census name was W.V. and my tree has "William Vann." I would need to use "search" for that and use different parameters for the filters.

Private User
and ALL INTERESTED IN THE TRUTH
You stated earlier that one of the free data matches is the Social Security Death Index. I didn't think so, therefore I checked my mother's in law data match, from the SSDI, and when I clicked on "View Record" I was sent to a MyHeritage link to Pay up... or shot up.
I wonder if this is true also for the other "free" data.

Daniel

The blog is where Geni describes "the truth." Attention - Curarors - please assist - is for that purpose - curators helping.

So - please read what Geni says here:

"Viewing the list of matches is free, as is drilling-down and viewing full records from certain free data collections such as Find-A-Grave or the 1940 Federal US census. A MyHeritage Data subscription is required to view other historical records in full, and to confirm matches. MyHeritage Data subscriptions work on both Geni and MyHeritage and also provide unlimited access to MyHeritage SuperSearch, a powerful search engine for historical records with more than 4 billion records."

http://www.geni.com/blog/introducing-record-matches-and-smart-match...

And NOW

Let the curators get back to helping in ways we can.

Thank you.

Free matches can be confirmed with Geni Pro. Now I shut up

I sent a message to Geni regarding the free record confusion. The blog is correct and the FAQ has been updated by Geni.

Could someone please unlink Jonathan Marsh from Phebe Barker

He is the wrong Jonathan Marsh.

Thanks!

@Leslie: Done

Thanks Jeff!

Could someone please unlink Captain Samesbury Radcliffe from Christian Quayle

Thanks!

Leslie - done. Double check the children are with correct parents, and holler if they need MPs to avoid getting tangled up again.

Thanks a bunch Erica

Sam Jones Would you explain what you mean please

Hi all,
I have reported this tree linked to this profile as an abandoned tree
William Calf
belonging to this person
Private User
geni has excepted it is abandoned but could not allocate or find anyone to allocate it to. Is there anyway I can get it allocated to me as I have merge issues I wish to sort through
SueG