Known issues and known facts about the Lees

Jacqueli Charlene Finley wrote:

Curators,

There are errors on the master profile for Col. Richard Lee I (The Immigrant) regarding his parentage (please note the date ranges with the data on MP - 2 different versions managed by 2 curators Jenna and K. Anderson). Here is the correct version ( I included past research notes also):

Ancestors of Richard Lee I

Generation No. 1

1. Richard Lee I1, born 1613 in Nordley Regis, Coton, Schrops, England1; died 01 Mar 1664 in Dividing Creek, Northumberland, Virginia, USA1. He was the son of 2. John Lee or Lyes Clothier and 3. Jane HANCOCK. He married (1) Anne Constable1 1661 in Virginia, USA1. She was born 1615 in London, England1, and died 06 Oct 1706 in Dividing Creek, Northumberland, Virginia, USA1. She was the daughter of Francis Constable and Alice Owen.

Notes for Richard Lee I:
deposition May 1641 Norfolk Co gives age as 32, hence born 1608/9

Depositoin London 1654 Admiralty Court. Richard Lee Gentleman age 34 or thereabouts deposes of things seen on York River in Virgina the prior January. (pub 1984) hence born 1618

Coton Hall lies on main road between Shrewsbury and Brostol. Along that road going south you find Coton Hall, then Worcester, then Twining. Starting from the south, Twining in Worcestershire is about 12 miles north of Worcester, and it is another 20 miles from Worcester to Coton Hall.

Richard baptized 22 march 1617/1618 ST Martin's Worcester England

Will says"of Virginia, late of Stratford-Langton in the County of Essex"
this was part of the Abby of Stratford-Langthorne founded 1135 disbanded 1539 and Westsham Mannor or Parish was divided into four parts one of which was Stratford-Langton, or one ward of the parish/mannor.
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Subj:Re: Lee
Date:11/6/2005 9:08:33 AM Central Standard Time
From: dnca2@earthlink.net Reply-to: dnca2@earthlink.net To: Jhlawr@wmconnect.com (Jhlawr@wmconnect.com)
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New Research on the Wraysbury Deeds
by Alan Nicholls.
In 1999 I gave a presentation to the Lee Society of Virginia at their AGM concerning the English ancestry of Colonel Richard Lee, the founder of the Virginia Lee family. This presentation was placed on my webpage on 24th May 1999.
In that presentation I included evidence that Colonel Richard Lee had signed a series of three indentures relating to a purchase by John Lee of Coton of a property at Wraysbury in Buckinghamshire, England in 1652. Colonel Richard's signature on these deeds had been used by all previous researchers, with other evidence, to show a direct connection between the Lee family of Virginia and the Coton Lee family of Alveley, Shropshire. However since the 1999 presentation my research has revealed evidence using only original contemporary documents that these indentures were in fact signed by Richard Lee, fishmonger, son of Lancelot Lee of Coton. This Richard was the apprentice of John Lee, fishmonger, citizen of London and gentleman. I have shown previously that this John Lee (1600-1682), son of Thomas Lee of Coton (1560-1620) was mistakenly identified as a saddler by all earlier researchers.
As I reported in the 1999 presentation the signatures on the Wraysbury deeds seemed to match extremely well with those few other original signatures of Colonel Richard Lee that I had found. He signed himself Rich: Lee in all cases and I found these signatures the most persuasive evidence to authenticate his claim to a Coton ancestry. However this new evidence has overturned those conclusions. The new research is detailed below.
The research undertaken since the 1999 presentation has not found the English ancestor of Colonel Richard Lee but it is challenging the fundamental assumptions made by earlier researchers. I am continuing to follow my lines of research and hopefully will carry it through to a successful conclusion. I will post articles on my webpage as I complete each phase of the research. As with all research of this nature there are gains and losses but I view each reversal with a positive attitude that will propel me forward with new knowledge to more gains and, hopefully, less losses.
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Jim,
I have not done English research on Richard and Henry Lee of York. They were obviously related, probably brothers. Since Richard was born c. 1619, and appears to have been the older, it would appear that Henry was born c. 1620. Since his first child was b. 1645, this fits well.
There were several Richard Lees and several Henry Lees on the early emigration records. To my knowledge, no one has proven whence they came or which county they settled in.
The first problem in research is that there is no proof that Richard Lee of York was the same person as Col. Richard.
The research that has been done has been aimed at the origin of Col. Richard Lee. Two of the most recognized articles are: Article by Wm. Thorndale, National Genealogical Society Qtrly, Dec 1988
Article by Ludwell Lee Montague, Va. Magazine, Jan. 1954.
The descendants of Col. Richard have not enthusiastically accepted any of the research done. One of them has recently engaged an English researcher, Alan Nicholls. Nicholls has a web page which you can Google up.
Hope this helps. Will send another message on the Henry Lee descendants.
Cary Adams
***************my replyThis one got settled very well William and Mary Quarterly about 25 yrs ago sorry exact ref not in hand -it took some doing by the way very good work.. but they found Col. Richard baptized 22 march 1617/1618 ST Martin's Worcester England, d 1 MArch 1664 Northumberland Co Va but will probate London andhis papa was John /Lee or Lyes/ Clothier b 1588 of, Nordley Regis, Coton Hall, Salop, England burried 23 Feb 1629/1630 St Martin parish, Worcestershire, Englandwife Jane Hancock (hence all the Hancocks in his line).Grandfather Col Richard was RIchard Lee 1564-1621 md Elizabeth BentleyGGfather John Lee 1528 - will 14 May 1605 will proven, Shropshire, Englandburried Chesham, Buckinghamshire, , England wife Joyce or Jocota /ROMNEY/ b abt 1533 died 4 Dec 1609 Alveley Parish, Shropshire, England (burr same place)and finally GGG was Humphrey 1506 wife Katherine /Blount/ and this is the common link to Henry of York.They were cousins to be precise Henry Jr 1627 was 3rd cousin to Col Richard.Jim Lawler
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More About Richard Lee I:
Burial: Jan 1665, will probate, London, , England
Christening: 1640, to, Va, from, Straford-Langston, Co Essex, England
Record Change: 29 Jun 2005

Notes for Anne Constable:
ca 1240

Ward, Francis, Wyatt Govenor, Virginia

More About Anne Constable:
Christening: 21 Feb 1622, St. Gregory by St. Paul, London
Record Change: 06 Nov 2005

Generation No. 2

2. John Lee or Lyes Clothier, born Abt. 1588 in of, Nordley Regis, Coton Hall, Salop, England; died in Worcester, Worcestershire. He was the son of 4. Richard Lee and 5. Elizabeth BENDEY. He married 3. Jane HANCOCK.
3. Jane HANCOCK, born Abt. 1596 in Worcester, St Martin parish, Worcestershire, England. She was the daughter of 6. Edward HANCOCK and 7. Alice JEFFRIES.

More About John Lee or Lyes Clothier:
Burial: 23 Feb 1630, St Martin parish, Worcestershire, England
Record Change: 09 Jan 2002

Notes for Jane HANCOCK:
2 sep 1630 Jane Lee widow fo John Lee Dec St MArtin's Parish city of Worcestger administration with bond for estate fo John Deceased, security Thomas HANCOCK HANCOCKE.
1632 widow Jame md Hohn Maninge, Worcester, St Martin's
Jane Manning made will 1635, names eldest son John, Richard,, with youngest son Thomas. child Edward deceased added from Parish Baptismal records

More About Jane HANCOCK:
Burial: 24 Feb 1639, Worcester, St Alban's parish, Worcestershire, England
Christening: also listed as of Twining.
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

Child of John Lee or Lyes and Jane HANCOCK is:
1 i. Richard Lee I, born 1613 in Nordley Regis, Coton, Schrops, England; died 01 Mar 1664 in Dividing Creek, Northumberland, Virginia, USA; married Anne Constable 1661 in Virginia, USA.

Generation No. 3

4. Richard Lee, born 1564 in of, Cocton, Shropshire, England; died 1621 in of, Nordley Regis, Shropshire, England. He was the son of 8. John Lee and 9. Joyce or Jocota ROMNEY. He married 5. Elizabeth BENDEY.
5. Elizabeth BENDEY, born Abt. 1566 in of, Cocton, , England.

Notes for Richard Lee:
Richard Lee, fishmonger
Richard Lee was baptised at St. Mary's church, Alveley, Shropshire, on 15th September 1622. Richard was the son of Lancelot Lee, Lord of the manor of Alveley, and his first wife Jane Clemson.
The Apprentice records of Fishmongers Company which are held at the Guildhall Library in London show that in 1639 Richard Lee, son of Lancelot Lee of Alveley, gent of Salop, was apprenticed to JohnLee, fishmonger, of London for 7 years.
Richard served his apprenticeship and was made a freeman of the Fishmongers Company in 1647. In that same year Thomas Nicholls, son of Thomas Nicholls of Alveley, who was a brother in law of Lancelot Lee by his wife Eleanor Lee, was also apprenticed to John Lee.
And in 1649 Lancelot Lee, another son of Lancelot Lee of Alveley, Shropshire was apprenticed to Francis Collins, fishmonger
This John Lee to whom Richard Lee and Thomas Nicholls were apprenticedwas the brother of Lancelot Lee of Coton and was the clerk of the company.We would call him the treasurer of the company and he ran the day to day finances of the company.
All of these Lee family members were entitled to use the Lee arms which are now used by the Lee family of Virginia.

More About Richard Lee:
Christening: 06 Oct 1564, of, Nordley Regis, Shropshire, England
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

More About Elizabeth BENDEY:
Christening: of, Nordley Regis, , England
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

Child of Richard Lee and Elizabeth BENDEY is:
2 i. John Lee or Lyes Clothier, born Abt. 1588 in of, Nordley Regis, Coton Hall, Salop, England; died in Worcester, Worcestershire; married Jane HANCOCK.

6. Edward HANCOCK, died 1621 in will 1621. He married 7. Alice JEFFRIES.
7. Alice JEFFRIES, born Abt. 1560 in of Twining.

More About Edward HANCOCK:
Record Change: 05 Mar 2001

More About Alice JEFFRIES:
Record Change: 05 Sep 2006

Child of Edward HANCOCK and Alice JEFFRIES is:
3 i. Jane HANCOCK, born Abt. 1596 in Worcester, St Martin parish, Worcestershire, England; married John Lee or Lyes Clothier.

Generation No. 4

8. John Lee, born 1528 in of, Nordley Regis, Coton Hall, England; died 14 May 1605 in will proven, Shropshire, , England. He was the son of 16. Humphrey Lee and 17. Katherine Blount. He married 9. Joyce or Jocota ROMNEY.
9. Joyce or Jocota ROMNEY, born Abt. 1533 in Lulsey, Worcester, , England; died 04 Dec 1609 in Alveley Parish, Shropshire, England. She was the daughter of 18. John ROMNEY and 19. Bripton Berrington.

More About John Lee:
Burial: 13 Jun 1605, Chesham, Buckinghamshire, , England
Christening: Aberley, parish, Salop, England
Record Change: 05 Sep 2006

More About Joyce or Jocota ROMNEY:
Burial: 1609, Alveley, parish, , England
Record Change: 17 Jun 2001

Child of John Lee and Joyce ROMNEY is:
4 i. Richard Lee, born 1564 in of, Cocton, Shropshire, England; died 1621 in of, Nordley Regis, Shropshire, England; married Elizabeth BENDEY.

Generation No. 5

16. Humphrey Lee1, born 1506 in Langley, Shropshire, England1; died 06 Dec 1588 in Inq P, Coton Hall, Shropshire, England1. He was the son of 32. Thomas or de Lea Lee and 33. Joanna MORTON. He married 17. Katherine Blount.
17. Katherine Blount1, born 1506 in Eye, Herfordshire, England1; died 30 Aug 1591 in Coton Hall, Nordley Regis, Shropshire, England1. She was the daughter of 34. John Blount and 35. Elizabeth YOE.

More About Humphrey Lee:
Christening: Rebuilt, Coton Hall, Alveley, parish
Record Change: 27 Jul 2001

More About Katherine Blount:
Burial: 30 Aug 1591, Alveley, church, Shropshire, England
Record Change: 27 Jul 2001

Children of Humphrey Lee and Katherine Blount are:
8 i. John Lee, born 1528 in of, Nordley Regis, Coton Hall, England; died 14 May 1605 in will proven, Shropshire, , England; married Joyce or Jocota ROMNEY.
ii. John Lee1,1, born 1530 in Colton, Shropshire, England1,1; died 14 May 1605 in Shropshire, England1,1; married (2) Jacota Romney; born 1529 in England1; died 1609 in England1; married (3) Joyce Romney; born 1529 in Lulsley, Worcester, England1; died 04 Dec 1609 in Alveley, Shropshire, England1; married (4) Jocata Romney; born 1533 in Nordley Regis, Shropshire, England1; married (5) Jocota Romney 24 Jun 1552 in Colton, Shropshire, England1; born 1533 in Colton, Shropshire, England1; died 04 Dec 1609 in Alveley Parish, Shropshire, England1; married (6) Joyce Romney 1553 in Shropshire, England1; born 1529 in Colton, Shropshire, England1; died 04 Dec 1609 in Alveley Parish, Shropshire, England1; married (7) Romney 15531; born 15331; died 16091; married (8) Joyce Romney 24 Jun 15531; born in Nordley, Regis Coton, Schropshire, England1; married (9) Joyce Romney 21 Oct 1599 in Alveley, Church Shrophire, England1; born 1529 in Lulsley, Worcester, England1; died 1609 in Alveley, Coton Nordley Register, Shropshire, England1.
iii. Thomas Lee1, born 1535 in Oswestry, Morton Regis, Shropshire, England1,1; died 1585 in Morton Regis, Shropshire, England1

18. John ROMNEY, born Abt. 1510 in of, Lulsey, Worcester, England; died 1580 in Coton, Shropshire, England. He married 19. Bripton Berrington.
19. Bripton Berrington, born Abt. 1512 in Coton, Shropshire, England. She was the daughter of 38. John Bripton Berrington.

More About John ROMNEY:
Record Change: 17 Jun 2001

More About Bripton Berrington:
Christening: Stoke, or, Stock, England
Record Change: 17 Jun 2001

Child of John ROMNEY and Bripton Berrington is:
9 i. Joyce or Jocota ROMNEY, born Abt. 1533 in Lulsey, Worcester, , England; died 04 Dec 1609 in Alveley Parish, Shropshire, England; married John Lee.

Generation No. 6

32. Thomas or de Lea Lee, born Abt. 1465 in of, Nordley Regis, Shropshire, England; died 16 Mar 1526 in of, Coton Hall, Shropshire, England. He was the son of 64. John or de Lea Lee and 65. Elizabeth CORBIN. He married 33. Joanna MORTON.
33. Joanna MORTON, born Abt. 1482 in of, Houghton, Shropshire, England. She was the daughter of 66. Robert ot Thomas MORTON.

More About Thomas or de Lea Lee:
Burial: 5, sons, 7, daughters
Record Change: 27 Jul 2001

More About Joanna MORTON:
Burial: 5, sons, 7, daughters
Christening: of, Nordley Regis, Coton Hall, Shropshire
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

Child of Thomas Lee and Joanna MORTON is:
16 i. Humphrey Lee, born 1506 in Langley, Shropshire, England; died 06 Dec 1588 in Inq P, Coton Hall, Shropshire, England; married Katherine Blount.

34. John Blount, born Abt. 1480 in of, Yeo or Eye, Herford, England; died in , , , England. He was the son of 68. HUMPHREY Blount sir and 69. Elizabeth Wynnington. He married 35. Elizabeth YOE.
35. Elizabeth YOE, born Abt. 1455 in of, Yeo or Eye, Herford, England. She was the daughter of 70. John YOE.

More About John Blount:
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

More About Elizabeth YOE:
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

Child of John Blount and Elizabeth YOE is:
17 i. Katherine Blount, born 1506 in Eye, Herfordshire, England; died 30 Aug 1591 in Coton Hall, Nordley Regis, Shropshire, England; married Humphrey Lee.

38. John Bripton Berrington, born Abt. 1482 in of, Stock, Stoke, England.

More About John Bripton Berrington:
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

Child of John Bripton Berrington is:
19 i. Bripton Berrington, born Abt. 1512 in Coton, Shropshire, England; married John ROMNEY.

Generation No. 7

64. John or de Lea Lee, born Abt. 1420 in of, Nordley Regis, Shropshire, England; died 1478 in of, Coton, Nordley Regis, Shropshire. He was the son of 128. John or de Lea Lee and 129. Joyce or Jacosa PACKINGTON. He married 65. Elizabeth CORBIN.
65. Elizabeth CORBIN, born Abt. 1428 in Heiress West Bromwich, Stafford, England. She was the daughter of 130. Thomas or CORBYN CORBIN.

More About John or de Lea Lee:
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

More About Elizabeth CORBIN:
Record Change: 26 Jul 2001

Child of John Lee and Elizabeth CORBIN is:
32 i. Thomas or de Lea Lee, born Abt. 1465 in of, Nordley Regis, Shropshire, England; died 16 Mar 1526 in of, Coton Hall, Shropshire, England; married Joanna MORTON.

66. Robert ot Thomas MORTON, born Abt. 1457 in of, Houghton, Shropshire, England.

More About Robert ot Thomas MORTON:
Record Change: 17 Jun 2001

Child of Robert ot Thomas MORTON is:
33 i. Joanna MORTON, born Abt. 1482 in of, Houghton, Shropshire, England; married Thomas or de Lea Lee.

68. HUMPHREY Blount sir, born Abt. 1460 in of, Yeo or Eye, Herford, England. He married 69. Elizabeth Wynnington.
69. Elizabeth Wynnington

More About HUMPHREY Blount sir:
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

More About Elizabeth Wynnington:
Record Change: 27 Jul 2001

Child of HUMPHREY Blount and Elizabeth Wynnington is:
34 i. John Blount, born Abt. 1480 in of, Yeo or Eye, Herford, England; died in , , , England; married Elizabeth YOE.

70. John YOE, born Abt. 1530 in of, Yeo or Eye, Herford, England.

More About John YOE:
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

Child of John YOE is:
35 i. Elizabeth YOE, born Abt. 1455 in of, Yeo or Eye, Herford, England; married John Blount.

Generation No. 8

128. John or de Lea Lee, born Abt. 1372 in at, Nordley Regis, Shropshire, England; died 1424 in Nordley Regis, Shropshire, , England. He was the son of 256. Roger Lee and 257. Margaret ASTLEY. He married 129. Joyce or Jacosa PACKINGTON.
129. Joyce or Jacosa PACKINGTON, born Abt. 1374 in of, Coton, Nordley Regis, England. She was the daughter of 258. John PACKINGTON sir.

More About John or de Lea Lee:
Record Change: 05 Sep 2006

More About Joyce or Jacosa PACKINGTON:
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

Child of John Lee and Joyce PACKINGTON is:
64 i. John or de Lea Lee, born Abt. 1420 in of, Nordley Regis, Shropshire, England; died 1478 in of, Coton, Nordley Regis, Shropshire; married Elizabeth CORBIN.

130. Thomas or CORBYN CORBIN, born Abt. 1400 in West Bromwich, , Stafford, England.

More About Thomas or CORBYN CORBIN:
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

Child of Thomas or CORBYN CORBIN is:
65 i. Elizabeth CORBIN, born Abt. 1428 in Heiress West Bromwich, Stafford, England; married John or de Lea Lee.

Generation No. 9

256. Roger Lee1, born 1352 in Roden, Shropshire, England1; died 14191. He was the son of John Lee and Matilda. He married 257. Margaret ASTLEY.
257. Margaret ASTLEY, born Abt. 1354 in Heiress, Nordley Regis, Shropshire, England; died 1423 in at, Nordley Regis, Shropshire, England. She was the daughter of Thomas ASTLEY Knight and Elizabeth de HARCOURT.

More About Roger Lee:
Christening: 1387, Sheriff, Shropshire
Record Change: 26 Jul 2001

More About Margaret ASTLEY:
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

Child of Roger Lee and Margaret ASTLEY is:
128 i. John or de Lea Lee, born Abt. 1372 in at, Nordley Regis, Shropshire, England; died 1424 in Nordley Regis, Shropshire, , England; married Joyce or Jacosa PACKINGTON.

258. John PACKINGTON sir, born Abt. 1345 in of, Shropshire, , England.

More About John PACKINGTON sir:
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

Child of John PACKINGTON sir is:
129 i. Joyce or Jacosa PACKINGTON, born Abt. 1374 in of, Coton, Nordley Regis, England; married John or de Lea Lee.