Alice Waddington

Not the daughter of Thomas Grimshaw, of Clayton Hall or the same as Alice Holden

https://faysampson.co.uk/family-history/jack-priestleys-family-hist...

ALICE GRIMSHAW. The Grimshaw website has Alice as the daughter of Thomas Grimshaw and his second wife Margaret Stanley. But this is evidently a mistake. Alice was married around 1440, while Thomas’s other children are born in the early 16th century. There may have been a confusion here with a younger Alice Grimshaw.

On the same website Alice is given a birth date of 1380. That too is unlikely. Her marriage date make a birth around 1415 more probable, or perhaps later, since the daughter of gentry often married young.

There are a number of documents around 1442 which link Robert Waddington to the Grimshaw family. These Grimshaws are Henry, Robert, Hugh and Geoffrey. Robert was the son of Henry Grimshaw senior. Henry and Hugh may be other sons of Henry, or, more probably, of Robert himself. Geoffrey is the illegitimate son of Roger Grimshaw. Henry, Hugh and Geoffrey are given birth dates in the early 15th century, making them too young to be likely fathers of Alice. Robert Grimshaw’s birth date is given as around 1391, which is the sort of date we would expect for Alice’s father.

Robert Grimshaw granted land to George, eldest son of Robert Waddington and Alice. This looks like a gift to a grandson than to a great-nephew.

If Robert Grimshaw is Alice’s father, this would make her mother Joan Hacking or Margaret Clayton.

http://grimshaworigin.org/miscellaneous-grimshaw-individuals/early-...

13. ALICE8 GRIMSHAW (THOMAS7, HENRY6, HENRY5, HENRY4, ADAM3, HENRY2, WALTER1) was born Abt. 1380 [SIC] , and died Abt. 1430 [SIC] in Eccleshills ,or Mellon, Hoddeson-Newhey, Aighton, Clayton. She married (1) ROBERT WADDINGTON Abt. 1440 in Hasslingden, Hereitary Lands in Waddington, son of PETER WADDINGTON. She married [SIC] (2) JOHN HOLDEN 1523, son of RALF HOLDEN.

More About ALICE GRIMSHAW:

Fact 2: p14 History Clayton le Moors Lancs

Fact 3: Davy feld Is located in Eccleshill/Mellor and was held by PeterWadyngton 1520

More About ROBERT WADDINGTON:

Fact 1: 1434, Recorded in the Little Milton annex Waddington Church Deed 1434 with cousins

Fact 2: 1443, De Grymshey obtained Bulk of their Estate from Claytons Altham, them by R Lacy

Fact 3: April 14, 1439, Granted Land by Robert and Geoffrey de Grimshaw

Fact 4: 1464, Lancashire Charters Robert PArker daughter Margaret

Fact 5: These Lands In Eccleshill and Mellon Lancs

Fact 6: 1442, Marriage Arrangement for son Reynold-Heir concerning Land in Clayton

Fact 7: 1454, Lancashire Charters Harleian MS 2042 p318. Concerning Elizabeth daughter Roger

Fact 8: Whalley marriage to Gilbert Jacson son of Thomas

Fact 9: Witnesses Richard Houghton, Geoffrey Levesby Thomas Farrington and Robert

Fact 10: 1454, Waddington, .

Fact 11: 1523, Harvard Deeds 88, Bond 1523 Between Grandson Ralf Waddington, Miles WHalley,

Fact 12: Christopher Ainsworth, Ralf <WM Haworthm WM Holden,Levesby

Fact 13: Over land Aiynsworth

More About JOHN HOLDEN:

Fact 1: The Association of Chaigeley and ownership occured through Robert Wadyngton son

Fact 2: of Peter which association continued till about1580

Fact 3: 1507, Thomas Wadyngton vs Lawrence Holden concerning Dept Manor

Fact 4: In Manor Accrington. p11 MACR

Children of ALICE GRIMSHAW and ROBERT WADDINGTON are:

18. i. GEORGE9 WADDINGTON, b. Abt. 1440, Melling; d. Abt. 1470, George De Wadyngton.

19. ii. RAYNOLD WADDINGTON, b. Abt. 1441, Hasslingden, Chaigeley (Sunnyhurst), – Hereitary Lands in Waddington; d. Abt. 1490, Raynold De Wadyngton-Heir.

References

• http://grimshaworigin.org/miscellaneous-grimshaw-individuals/early-... Mixes up this Alice Grimshaw with a later one
• https://faysampson.co.uk/family-history/jack-priestleys-family-hist...