Aubri de Mello, chambrier de France, sieur de Dammartin

Alberic (Aubrey) Ier (Comte) de DAMMARTIN, High Chamberlain of France (Chambrier de Louis VI); (de MELLO) ,Lord of Norton ,(Albéric de Mello-Dammartin) De Mello de Dammartin

From Charles Cawley, Medieval Lands Database, Foundation for Medieval Genealogy

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Some time after the death of Renaud [de Clermont] Comte de Dammartin, second husband of Clémence who is shown in the previous section, Louis VII King of France assumed direct control over the county of Dammartin. This is confirmed by a charter dated 1176, under which King Louis VII exchanged property with Paris Hôtel-Dieu. The charter noted that, when he had held the castle of Dammartin (“quando castri domni Martini dominium habebamus”), the king had donated “grangiam inter Mintriacum et Moriacum sitam” but that he had later returned the castle [of Dammartin] and grange to “Alberico” (“postquam vero Alberico predictum castrum cum predicta grangia reddidimus”) (who had returned “Firmitate” [to the king]) and now needed to compensate Hôtel-Dieu with another property[2608]. “Alberico” is identified as Aubry [II] Comte de Dammartin who is named below. The precise circumstances and dating of the king’s acquisition of Dammartin are unknown, but it may have been triggered by a disputed succession. Comte Renaud had presumably retained the county for life, de iure uxoris, but his sons by Clémence would have had no hereditary right of succession. The nearest known direct heiress to the county appears to have been Adela, daughter of Hugues [I] Comte de Dammartin and widow of Lancelin [II] de Beauvais, who was still alive in the early 1160s. However, a charter dated 1175 hints that the inheritance of Dammartin was disputed: King Louis VII exempted "villa...Laniacum Siccum" [Lagny-le-Sec] from duties (“gistum”) which had been “privilegium comitis Petri, qui fuit comes Dunni-Martini”, claimed by "Willermus de Merloto et socii sui de terra Domni-Martini partiarii" [Guillaume Seigneur de Mello] who had been refused by judgment “in curia nostra”, by charter dated 1175[2609]. This Guillaume Seigneur de Mello was the son of Dreux [II] de Mello, whose wife was a daughter of Lancelin [II] de Beauvais and Adela de Dammartin. The 1175 document provides no indication of the reasons for Guillaume’s claim having been refused, although by that time Aubry [II] had been established as comte de Dammartin for several years.

The question remains: why was Aubry [II] chosen to receive the county of Dammartin? According to Europäische Stammtafeln, the person shown below as Aubry [I] was the son of Aubry de Mello & his wife Adela ---[2610]. This is presumably speculative based only on the name “Aubry” and the hypothesis that his mother was the same person as Adela de Dammartin who later married Lancelin [II] de Beauvais. Mathieu suggests that the king’s candidate (in other words Aubry [II] Comte de Dammartin) must have belonged to the Dammartin line in order to prevail over challenges from other claimants[2611]. His theory is that Aubry [I] was the same person as the English Aubry [I] de Dammartin, son of Eudes [I] de Dammartin who had emigrated to England. He bases this on the undated charter, which Mathieu dates to [Mar] 1187, under which Henry II King of England granted “manerium de Norton” to “comiti Alberico de Dammartin et Reginaldo filio suo”, as the same property had been granted to other members of the English Dammartin family by Henry I King of England[2612]. In addition, the sources quoted below indicate that Comte Aubry [II] held other English properties which were previously associated with the English Dammartin family. One difficulty is that the English Aubry [I] de Dammartin does not appear to have been his father’s oldest son, which suggests that Aubry [II] could not have inherited the county as the most senior surviving male heir of the family. As noted below, one possibility is that Aubry [I]’s wife and the mother of Aubry [II], was heiress of Dammartin. If that is correct, she could not have been the daughter of Clémence Ctss de Dammartin whose daughter Mathilde later married Comte Aubry [II]. Could she have been an otherwise unrecorded younger sister of Hugues [II] Comte de Dammartin?

1. AUBRY (-after 1129). Chambrier de France 1122 to 1129[2613]. The English properties held by Aubry [II] Comte de Dammartin suggest a close relationship with the Dammartin families in England who are recorded holding the same lands. The father of Comte Aubry is named “Albericus camerarius” in the charter dated 1162 quoted below[2614]. Given the English connection, the obvious suggestion is that Comte Aubry was the son of the English Aubry [I] de Dammartin. However, the chronology is not ideal for the latter to have been the chambrier who was named between 1122 and 1129. As indicated in the document UNTITLED ENGLISH NOBILITY D-K, the English Aubry [I] was adult during the later years of King Henry I. However, as one of the younger sons of Eudes [I] de Dammartin, it is unclear whether he was old enough to have held the position of chambrier in 1122.

2. AUBRY [I] (-after 1162). One possibility to avoid the chronological difficulty highlighted above, is that there were two chambriers named Aubry. [Chambrier de France 1155/62]. This appointment is suggested by the charter dated 1162 under which "Amalricus...Silvanectensis episcopus" confirmed the donation of “usum...totius forestæ Espioniæ de Bealci” made to Charlieu by “Albericus camerarius et filius eius Albericus comes de Dammartin”, with the consent of “Johanne scancione regis et uxore sua Helisendi et Petro filio suo”[2615]. Delaite says that Aubry [I], father of Comte Aubry [II], was “suivant le père Anselme, chambrier de France en 1155 et 1160”[2616]. In fact, Père Anselme lists “Alberic I...comte de Dammartin, chambrier de France”, referring only to the 1162 charter and adding that he was still alive in 1181, but cites no references dated 1155 or 1160[2617]. Luchaire, in his review of the royal officers, comments that “cet Aubri n’apparaît, à notre connaissance, sur aucune charte de Louis VII”[2618]. He traces the reference to Aubry as chambrier to Ducange who, Luchaire suggests, misinterpreted the 1162 charter[2619]. Luchaire names Mathieu [II] Comte de Beaumont as chambrier from 1151 to 1174. If Luchaire is correct, the reference to “camerarius” in the 1162 charter still needs explaining. If Comte Aubry [II] was the son of the English Aubry [I] de Dammartin, the chronology of his life suggests that the latter was too young to have been the chambrier who was named between 1122 and 1129 (see above). One possibility therefore is that the appointment oscillated between Comte Mathieu [II] and Aubry [I] during the 1150s/1160s, without leaving a trace in the surviving charters. m ---. The name of Aubry’s wife is not known. As discussed in the introduction to the present section, one possibility to explain the appointment of Aubry [II] as Comte de Dammartin is that his mother was heiress of the county. If that is correct, she could not have been the daughter of Clémence Ctss de Dammartin whose daughter Mathilde later married Comte Aubry [II]. Assuming that Aubry [I] was the same person as the English Aubry [I] de Dammartin, the chronology of the family suggests that the mother of Aubry [II] was not his wife Matilda, who is shown in the document UNTITLED ENGLISH NOBILITY D-K, but an earlier otherwise unrecorded wife. Aubry [I] & his wife had one child:

a) AUBRY [II] (-Lillebonne 20 Sep 1200, bur Jumièges). "Amalricus...Silvanectensis episcopus" confirmed the donation of “usum...totius forestæ Espioniæ de Bealci” made to Charlieu by “Albericus camerarius et filius eius Albericus comes de Dammartin”, with the consent of “Johanne scancione regis et uxore sua Helisendi et Petro filio suo”, by charter dated 1162[2620]. Comte de Dammartin. - see below.

AUBRY [II], son of AUBRY [I] & his wife --- (-Lillebonne 20 Sep 1200, bur Jumièges). Seigneur de la Ferté-Alais. Comte de Dammartin. "Amalricus...Silvanectensis episcopus" confirmed the donation of “usum...totius forestæ Espioniæ de Bealci” made to Charlieu by “Albericus camerarius et filius eius Albericus comes de Dammartin”, with the consent of “Johanne scancione regis et uxore sua Helisendi et Petro filio suo”, by charter dated 1162[2621]. “Albericus de Domnomartino eiusdem Feritatis dominus” witnessed the charter dated to [1166] given by the prior of La Ferté to Yerres abbey[2622]. “Aubericus dominus Feritatis et uxor mea Mahaudis et filius meus Renaudus” donated dead wood “de Amaro Nemore domui de Retollu” to the church of Yerre by undated charter[2623]. Mathieu dates this charter to [1160/77][2624]: maybe it can be dated more narrowly to [1168/75]. By charter dated 1171 Louis VII King of France attested that, after a dispute between the king and "Albericum de Firmitate" concerning a serf “Guillermo de Villiers” and his family claimed by Aubry after the king had granted him “castellum Firmitatis...in feodum”, the serf in question had been freed[2625]. "Aubri Count of Dammartin" confirmed the grant of Musewell to Missenden abbey made by “Guy and Joan de Ryhale”, with the consent of “his son and heir Renaud”, by charter dated to [1175][2626]. Aubry returned La Ferté-Alais to the king [1171/76]: by a charter dated 1176 King Louis VII exchanged property with Paris Hôtel-Dieu, noting that, when he had held the castle of Dammartin (“quando castri domni Martini dominium habebamus”), the king had donated “grangiam inter Mintriacum et Moriacum sitam” but that he had later returned the castle [of Dammartin] and grange to “Alberico” (“postquam vero Alberico predictum castrum cum predicta grangia reddidimus”) (who had returned “Firmitate” [to the king]) and needed to compensate Hôtel-Dieu with another property[2627]. "Albericus comes Domni Martini et Raynaldus filius meus comes Boloniæ et Matildis uxor mea comitissa" donated property to Dammartin Saint-Pierre by charter dated 1185[2628]. The Red Book of the Exchequer refers to "Odo de Danmartin xx s, comes Albericus de Danmartin xx s, et in perdone xx s" in Norfolk, Suffolk in [1186/87][2629]. Lord of Piddington, Oxfordshire: the 1186/87 Pipe Roll names “Comes Albericus de Dammartin” with one knight’s fee “pro wasto in Pidinton” in Oxfordshire and "Odo de Dammartin, Comes Albericus de Dammartin" in adjacent entries in Norfolk and Suffolk, and in Surrey[2630]. Seigneur de Lillebonne [en-Normandie]. "Radulfus comes Clarimontis" donated part of Hez wood to the church of Froidmont by charter dated 1190 witnessed by "Alberico comite de Dammartin et Renaldo filio eius…Aelidis uxor mea et filie mee Cathelina et Mathildis…Hugo frater meus primicerius ecclesie Mettensis…"[2631]. The Red Book of the Exchequer, listing scutage payments in [1190/91], records "comes Albericus" paying "iv s ix d" in Buckinghamshire, Bedfordshire and of "Willelmus de Danmartin, Albericus de Danmartin", each paying "x s, i militem" in Norfolk, Suffolk[2632]. The 1194 Pipe Roll records revenue “de Pidinton que fuit comitis de Dammartin” in Oxfordshire and "terra que fuit comitis de Dammartin in Bichhamsteda" [granted to Eudes [II] de Dammartin in 1152/53] in Cambridgeshire and Huntingdonshire[2633]. “Albericus comes Domnimartini” donated revenue from harvest “in grangia mea de Mintriaco” to Paris Hôtel-Dieu, confirmed and sealed by “Mathildis comitisse Domnimartini uxoris mee et…Reginaldo comitis Bolonie filii mei”, by charter dated 20 Sep 1200[2634]. "A. comes Domni Martini" donated property to Saint-Leu d’Esserent by charter dated 20 Sep 1200, signed by "M. comitisse Dampni Martini uxoris mee et…R. comitis Bolonie filii nostri", which records the donor’s death “hac...die...apud Lilleboniam”[2635]. An anonymous continuation of the Chronicle of Robert of Mont-Saint-Michel records the death "XIII Kal Oct" in 1200 of "Albericus Dammartini Comes" and his burial "apud Gemeticum"[2636].

[m firstly ([1159/60]%29 as her third husband, JOAN Basset, widow firstly of GUY FitzPain de Ridale, and secondly of SIMON de Gerardmoulins, daughter of --- (-[1160/62]). This possible first marriage of Aubry [II] Comte de Dammartin is indicated by his later holding of Piddington in Oxfordshire (see above) which the documents quoted below show was held by Joan Basset. The third husband of Joan Basset could not have been Aubry [I], father of Comte Aubry [II], as her husband was called “comes” in the documents quoted below. If this suggested identity of the third husband of Joan Basset is correct, Joan must have died soon after [1160]. Malcolm IV King of Scotland donated “villam P[iddington] in Oxenfordscire” to Oxford St. Frideswide, noting that “Iohanna...soror Thome Bassett” was tenant for life, by charter dated to [1159][2637]. King Henry II confirmed the donation of “villam de Pydentona in Oxenfordscira” to Oxford St. Frideswide made by King Malcolm IV, noting “Iohanna soror Thome Bassett” as tenant for life, by charter dated to [1160][2638]. William Reedy, in the introduction to his collection of Basset charters, states that Joan, sister of Thomas Basset, married Aubry de Dammartin as her third husband[2639]. Joan’s first marriage is confirmed by the charter dated to [1160] under which the abbot of Missenden surrendered surrendered rights in Piddington, donated by “Albrici comitis de Damartyn & Iohane de Pidingtona, que fuit sponsa Guidonis de Riala”, to Oxford St. Frideswide by charter dated to [1160][2640]. The primary source which confirms Joan’s second marriage has not been identified. "Aubri Count of Dammartin" confirmed the grant of Musewell to Missenden abbey made by “Guy and Joan de Ryhale”, with the consent of “his son and heir Renaud”, by charter dated to [1175][2641].]

m [secondly] ([after 1162]) MATHILDE de Clermont, daughter of RENAUD Comte de Clermont-en-Beauvaisis & his second wife Clémence de Bar (-after [May/Jul] 1218). "…Matildis soror mea…" consented to the donation by "Radulfus…comes Clarimontis" to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by charter dated 1162[2642]. "R…comes Clarimontis et dominus Brituliensis…et Aeliz comitissam uxorem meam" confirmed the donation to the church of Breteuil by "Sangalo de Garda Malgerii, Henricus filius eius" by undated charter, witnessed by "Albericus Domni Martini comes et Mahaux soror mea, Domni Martini comitissa, Rainaldus castellanus Britulii…"[2643]. “Aubericus dominus Feritatis et uxor mea Mahaudis et filius meus Renaudus” donated dead wood “de Amaro Nemore domui de Retollu” to the church of Yerre by undated charter[2644]. Mathieu dates this charter to [1160/77][2645]: maybe it can be dated more narrowly to [1168/75]. "A. comes Domni Martini" donated property to Saint-Leu d’Esserent by charter dated 20 Sep 1200, signed by "M. comitisse Dampni Martini uxoris mee et…R. comitis Bolonie filii nostri"[2646]. King Philippe II confirmed the donation made by “Mathilde jadis comtesse de Dammartin” to the nuns of Parc near Crespi of revenue from “la prévôté de Crespi”, which the king had previously granted to her in return for her rights over the county of Clermont after the death of [her great-nephew] Thibaud VI Comte de Blois, by charter dated [May/Jul] 1218[2647].

Aubry [II] & his [second] wife had [eight] children:

1. RENAUD de Dammartin ([1165/70]-Château de Goulet 21 Apr 1217, bur Boulogne). His parentage is confirmed by the anonymous continuation of the Chronicle of Robert of Mont-Saint-Michel which records that "filius eius Reginaldus Comes Boloniæ" donated property to Jumièges for the soul of "Albericus Dammartini Comes"[2648]. “Aubericus dominus Feritatis et uxor mea Mahaudis et filius meus Renaudus” donated dead wood “de Amaro Nemore domui de Retollu” to the church of Yerre by undated charter[2649]. Mathieu dates this charter to [1160/77][2650]: maybe it can be dated more narrowly to [1168/75]. "Albericus comes Domni Martini et Raynaldus filius meus comes Boloniæ et Matildis uxor mea comitissa" donated property to Dammartin Saint-Pierre by charter dated 1185[2651]. "Radulfus comes Clarimontis" donated part of Hez wood to the church of Froidmont by charter dated 1190 witnessed by "Alberico comite de Dammartin et Renaldo filio eius…Aelidis uxor mea et filie mee Cathelina et Mathildis…Hugo frater meus primicerius ecclesie Mettensis…"[2652]. He kidnapped his future second wife and kept her at the château de Riste in Lorraine, where he lured her fiancé (Arnoul de Guines Seigneur d'Ardres) and arranged his arrest by Albert de Hièrges Bishop of Verdun[2653]. He succeeded in 1192 as Comte de Boulogne, de iure uxoris. "A. comes Domni Martini" donated property to Saint-Leu d’Esserent by charter dated 20 Sep 1200, signed by "M. comitisse Dampni Martini uxoris mee et…R. comitis Bolonie filii nostri"[2654]. He succeeded his father in 1200 as Comte de Dammartin. “Reginaldus comes Bolonie” donated property to Jumièges, for the soul of “Alberici patris mei comitis Dampnimartini in eadem ecclesia sepulti”, with the consent of “Yde uxoris mee comitisse Bolonie, Radulfi et Simonis fratrum meorum et sororum mearum”, by charter dated [19 Sep/Dec] 1200[2655]. Philippe II King of France installed him in 1205 as Comte d'Aumâle and in 1209 as Comte de Mortain. He swore homage to John King of England in 1212, and his assets in France were confiscated in King Philippe II. He was captured after the battle of Bouvines in 1214 and imprisoned at the château de Goulet where he later committed suicide[2656]. m firstly (divorced before 1190) as her first husband, MARIE, daughter of [GUY [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne] & his wife Alix de Dreux [Capet] (-after Mar 1242). The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium refers to the wife of "Reinaldus filius Alberti de Dominio-Martini comitis" as "sorore Waltheri de Castellione", specifying that he left her in order to marry "Boloniem comitissam Idam"[2657]. It should be noted that none of the sources quoted in this section specify that Marie was the daughter of Guy [II] Seigneur de Châtillon. It is possible therefore that she was born from her mother’s third marriage. She married secondly ([1197]%29 Robert de Vieuxpont Seigneur de Courville, and thirdly (before 1 Oct 1213) Jean [III] Comte de Vendôme. "M. domina Curveville" referred to "vivente domino meo R. de Veteri Ponte" in a charter dated to [1205][2658]. "Maria domina de Corbavilla" gave security for "forteritia de Lavardin...quamdiu neptis mea Aales ibidem habebit dotalitium suum" to Philippe IV King of France by charter dated Feb 1212[2659]. "Johannes comes Vindocinensis" relinquished rights over "prepositos de Masengeio" to Chartres, with the consent of “Marie uxoris mee sororis comitis Sancti Pauli”, by charter dated Sep 1213[2660]. "Maria domina Curveville quondam comitissa Vindocinensis" donated revenue “in prepositura Curveville” to the priory of Saint-Nicolas de Courville, with the consent of "Ivo de Veteri Ponte miles filius meus dominus Curveville", by charter dated Mar 1242[2661]. m secondly ([1185 or before or Apr 1190]) as her fourth husband, IDA de Flandre Ctss de Boulogne, divorced wife (firstly) of MATHIEU ---, widow (secondly) of GERHARD van Geldern and (thirdly) of BERTHOLD IV Herzog von Zähringen, daughter of MATTHIEU de Flandres Comte de Boulogne & his first wife Marie de Blois Ctss de Boulogne ([1160/61]-21 Apr 1216, bur Boulogne). The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Idam…et Mathildem" as the two daughters of "Matheus [comiti Boloniensi]" & his wife, specifying that Ida married "primus…Gerardo comiti de Ghelra, deinde Bertoldo Cheringiorum duci, postea Rainaldo comiti Dommi-Martini in Francia"[2662]. The date of her fourth marriage is indicated by the charter dated 1185 under which "Albericus comes Domni Martini et Raynaldus filius meus comes Boloniæ et Matildis uxor mea comitissa" donated property to Dammartin Saint-Pierre[2663], demonstrating that Ida’s husband already bore the title comte de Boulogne at that date. However, this date is inconsistent with the date of death of Ida’s third husband, estimated to be 8 Sep 1186, which suggests that either the charter is misdated or that Berthold Herzog von Zähringen died a year earlier. The Chronica Andrensis records the death in1216 of "Ida Bolonie comitissa in Flandria" and her burial at Boulogne[2664]. Comte Renaud & his second wife had one child:

a) MATHILDE de Dammartin (-[9 Oct 1261/8 Feb 1263]). The Chronica Andrensis names "Mathilde…filia…Reinaldi quondam comitis Bolonie" as the wife of "Philippus frater Ludovici regis Gallie"[2665]. She succeeded in 1223 as Ctss de Dammartin and in 1227 as Ctss de Boulogne. "Mahaud comitissa Bolonie et Clarimontis…et Johanne filie nostre" donated property to the abbey of Sainte-Hoïlde, for the souls of "bone memorie Philippi condam comitis Bolonie et liberorum nostrorum", by charter dated Apr 1239[2666]. The De Rebus Hispaniæ of Rodericus Ximenes records the marriage of "Aldefonsum", son of "Aldefonsum" & his wife, and "Matillam…de partibus Franciæ, Boloniæ Comitissam"[2667]. “Alfonsus, filius…regis Portugaliæ, comes Bolonie” recorded his agreements with “Thomam comitem et Johannam eius uxorem comitissam Flandrensem” by charter dated Nov 1241 which names “…M. comitissa Bolonie uxor nostra”[2668]. Her second marriage is confirmed by the charter dated Jun 1240 under which "Aufonsus filius regis Portigalis comes Bolonie et Matildis uxor sua comitissa Bolonie" confirmed a donation by "Johanni de Bello Monte domini regis cambellano et Ysabelli Buticularie uxori sue"[2669]. The testament of “Mathildis comitissa Boloniæ”, dated Mar 1241 (presumably O.S.), bequeathed property to “marito meo Alphonso filio...Regis Portugaliæ comiti...Boloniæ” and appointed “ipsum comitem maritum meum, et...Robertum episcopum Belovacensem et...consanguineum meum dominum Matthæum de Tria...et dominum Philippum de Nantholio consanguineum meum” as her executors, with the approval of “Gualtherus de Cestellione et...Joanna eius uxor”[2670]. A charter dated Nov 1242 records a declaration by "Mathildis comtissa Bolonie…cum…marito nostro Alfonso filio…regis Portugalie comiti Bolonie" relating to her testament and names "Gaucherus de Castellione et Johanna filia nostra uxor eiusdem, heredes nostri"[2671]. The Chronicon Savigniacense records the death in 1258 (presumably O. S.) of "Matildis Comitissa Boloniæ" and the reversion of her county to the king[2672]. The Breve Chronicon Alcobacense records that "comitissa Bolonie" was still alive when "rex Dionisius" was born (9 Oct 1261, see below), but had died before the birth of his brother Afonso (8 Feb 1263, see below), and it was therefore claimed that Diniz was illegitimate but Afonso legitimate[2673]. m firstly (contract Compiègne, Oise Aug 1201, contract Saint-Germain-en-Laye May 1210, 1216) PHILIPPE "Hurepel" de France, son of PHILIPPE II "Auguste" King of France & his third wife Agnes von Andechs-Merano (Jul 1200-killed in a tournament Corbie, Somme 14 or 18 Jan 1234, bur église de l'Abbaye royale de Saint-Denis). m secondly (1235, divorced 1253) as his first wife, Infante dom AFONSO de Portugal, son of dom AFONSO II "o Gordo" King of Portugal & his wife Infanta doña Urraca de Castilla (Coimbra 5 May 1210-Lisbon 16 Feb 1279, bur Cistercian monastery of Santa Maria de Alcobaça). He succeeded his brother in 1248 as AFONSO III “o Restaurador” King of Portugal and the Algarve.

2. RAOUL de Dammartin (-after [19 Sep/Dec] 1200). “Reginaldus comes Bolonie” donated property to Jumièges, for the soul of “Alberici patris mei comitis Dampnimartini in eadem ecclesia sepulti”, with the consent of “Yde uxoris mee comitisse Bolonie, Radulfi et Simonis fratrum meorum et sororum mearum”, by charter dated [19 Sep/Dec] 1200[2674].

3. SIMON de Dammartin (-21 Sep 1239, bur Valoires). “Reginaldus comes Bolonie” donated property to Jumièges, for the soul of “Alberici patris mei comitis Dampnimartini in eadem ecclesia sepulti”, with the consent of “Yde uxoris mee comitisse Bolonie, Radulfi et Simonis fratrum meorum et sororum mearum”, by charter dated [19 Sep/Dec] 1200[2675]. The Chronicon Andrensis names "comes Bolonie Reinaldus et Simon frater eius", specifying that Simon married "filiam comitis Pontivi unicam"[2676]. Comte d'Aumâle 1205/11. Comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil 1231.
- COMTES de PONTHIEU.

4. ALIX de Dammartin (-after 1237). The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not been identified. Her parentage and marriage are indicated by an enquiry in 1267 which adjudged property of “Philippus olim comes Bolonie et...Matildis” to “Matheus comes Domni-Martini, domini Guillelmus de Fienes, Baldoinus de Fienes, Michael de Fienes, Ingerannus de Pinquegniaco et Renaudus de Pinquegniaco, heredes comitisse Matildis Bolonie”[2677]. Her descendants inherited the county of Dammartin. m (1190) JEAN [I] Châtelain de Trie, son of ENGUERRAND [II] "Aiguillon" de Trie Seigneur de Moncy & his wife Heddiva [Basilie] de Moncy (-before 1237).

5. AGNES de Dammartin . Her parentage and marriage are indicated by an enquiry in 1267 which adjudged property of “Philippus olim comes Bolonie et...Matildis” to “Matheus comes Domni-Martini, domini Guillelmus de Fienes, Baldoinus de Fienes, Michael de Fienes, Ingerannus de Pinquegniaco et Renaudus de Pinquegniaco, heredes comitisse Matildis Bolonie”[2678]. “Willelmus filius Ingelrami dominus de Fielnes” donated property to Andres, with the consent of "uxore mea Agnete et filio meo Ingelramno", by charter dated 1 Jan 1203 witnessed by "Radulfo de Fielnes patruo meo…Joanne de Tingri…"[2679]. m GUILLAUME de Fiennes, son of ENGUERRAND [I] de Fiennes & his wife Sibylle de Tingry--- (-[1235/44]).

6. CLEMENCE de Dammartin (-after Jun 1218). The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "castellano Sancti-Audomari domino Wilelmo…quartus filius Jacobus" married "Constantiam, sororem comitis Renaldi de Dommartin" who died childless[2680]. "Clémence femme de Jacques de Prisches" ratified her husband’s sale to the abbey of Maroilles by charter dated Jun 1218[2681]. m [as his first wife,] JACQUES de Saint-Omer, son of GUILLAUME [IV] Châtelain de Saint-Omer Seigneur de Fauquemberques & his wife Ida d’Avesnes (-[1219/20]).

7. --- de Dammartin . Her parentage and marriage are indicated by an enquiry in 1267 which adjudged property of “Philippus olim comes Bolonie et...Matildis” to “Matheus comes Domni-Martini, domini Guillelmus de Fienes, Baldoinus de Fienes, Michael de Fienes, Ingerannus de Pinquegniaco et Renaudus de Pinquegniaco, heredes comitisse Matildis Bolonie”[2682]. Her husband has not been identified. m ---. One child:

a) --- (-before 1267). The chronology suggests an intervening generation between the brothers Enguerrand and Renaud and their unnamed grandmother. It is not known whether their father or mother belonged to the Picquigny family. m ---. Two children:

i) ENGUERRAND de Picquigny . His ancestry is indicated by an enquiry in 1267 which adjudged property of “Philippus olim comes Bolonie et...Matildis” to “Matheus comes Domni-Martini, domini Guillelmus de Fienes, Baldoinus de Fienes, Michael de Fienes, Ingerannus de Pinquegniaco et Renaudus de Pinquegniaco, heredes comitisse Matildis Bolonie”[2683]. He and his brother have not been placed in the main Picquigny family which is shown in the document NORTHERN FRANCE NOBILITY.
ii) RENAUD de Picquigny . His ancestry is indicated by an enquiry in 1267 which adjudged property of “Philippus olim comes Bolonie et...Matildis” to “Matheus comes Domni-Martini, domini Guillelmus de Fienes, Baldoinus de Fienes, Michael de Fienes, Ingerannus de Pinquegniaco et Renaudus de Pinquegniaco, heredes comitisse Matildis Bolonie”[2684]. He and his brother have not been placed in the main Picquigny family which is shown in the document NORTHERN FRANCE NOBILITY.

8. [JULIANE de Dammartin (-after 1202). "Hugo de Gornaco" donated property to Fécamp, for the souls of "Juliane uxoris mee et puerorum meorum", by charter dated 1202[2685]. Her parentage is indicated only by a letter which purports to be from her granddaughter "Dame Julian Tresgoze…espouse…a Sr Robert Tresgoos le Second" to "son frère St Thomas de Cantlow, Euesque…de Hereford" which gives a confused version of the family’s lineage: "Sr Hugh de Gornaye" married "la reyne Blanch" [widow of Louis VIII King of France, such a second marriage being impossible chronologically] and had "un fils…Hugh…nostre ayle", who married "la soer le count Renaud de Boloyng"[2686]. Genealogical details in other parts of the letter can be corroborated against other sources. It is therefore difficult to decide whether the entry relating to the wife of Hugues [V] should be dismissed in the same way as the supposed marriage of his father to the widow of King Louis VIII or whether it is factually correct. The absence of Juliane’s descendants from the enquiry in 1267, which names the heirs of Mathilde de Dammartin Ctss de Boulogne descended from her paternal aunts (see above), suggests that this alleged parentage of the wife of Hugues [V] de Gournay is incorrect. m HUGUES [V] Seigneur de Gournay, son of HUGUES [IV] Seigneur de Gournay & his second wife Mélisende de Coucy (-25 Oct [1214]).]

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Controvers : selon Jean-Nol Mathieu, il serait fils d'un Eudes de DAMMARTIN, seigneur de Norton, lequel serait probablement, mais sans certitudes, fils d'Hugues de DAMMARTIN.

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