Capt. Thomas Pitman, of Surry County

brief biography and family

THOMAS1 PITMAN was born probably in England about 1614, based on the age he gave in a Surry County court appearance. Thomas Pitman died in Surry County sometime after 7 Jan 1686 when he testified in court.

This Thomas' 3 wives were:

1) Frances (maiden name unknown)

2) Unknown widow Wall (NOT Frances Wall as those names seem to have been merged in error) based on a step-son of Thomas' named Joseph Wall

3) Martha who was widow of both Thomas Atkinson and Thomas Gwaltney.

notes

Parents seen as Jane West and Thomas Pitman without supporting evidence.

Date of death might specifically be November 7, 1683.

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Date and place of birth have also been (erroneously?) reported to be May 29, 1614 at Monmouth, Monmouthshire, Wales (unattested).

links

• https://sites.rootsweb.com/~vaschsm/PitmanT.rtf
• https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~morganandrelatedfamilies/genealogy/...

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Generation No. 1
1. THOMAS1 PITTMAN, SR was born 1614, and died Abt. 1688 in Surry County, Virginia. He married (1) FRANCES Abt. 1654. He married (2) LYDIA GRAY Aft. 1661. She died 10 September 1672. He married (3) MARTHA GWALTNEY 04 October 1666.

More about THOMAS PITTMAN and FRANCES:

Marriage: Abt. 1654

More about THOMAS PITTMAN and LYDIA GRAY:

Marriage: Aft. 1661

More about THOMAS PITTMAN and MARTHA GWALTNEY:

Marriage: 04 October 1666

Child of THOMAS PITTMAN and FRANCES is:

2. i. THOMAS2 PITTMAN, JR, b. 1655, Surry County, Virginia; d. 26 September 1730, Isle of Wight, Virginia.

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Capt. Thomas Pitman I formerly Pittman Born 1614 in Monmouthshire, Wales

Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]

Husband of Frances (Unknown) Pitman — married 1635

Husband of Martha (Unknown) Pittman — married 4 Oct 1666 (to Oct 1672) in Surry County, VA

Husband of Lydia (Gray) Pittman — married 1672 in Surry County, VA

DESCENDANTS descendants: Father of William Pittman, Joseph Wall, Edward Pittman, John Pittman, Francis Pittman, Thomas Pittman II and Susannah (Pittman) Wall

Died 1691 in Surry, Virginia

2 Sources Biography Captain Thomas Pittman was b 1614 Monmouthshire England, and immigrated to Jamestown, VA between 1642-1649 with his wife Frances and several children.

Extant records establish the fact that Thomas Pitman was a carpenter (sued for not finishing a house on time), a farmer (tobacco was grown by most of the settlers), and a partial owner of a grinder mill; he and Francis Pitman sold their half of the mill in 1661, and Thomas Pitman agreed to do the repairs in the future. Early in his career in Virginia he was listed as a Captain in the Virginia Militia as early as 1651. That he had been a Cavalier under King Charles, probably an officer, and had fled to save his head is pure speculation, but he was referred to consistently until his last decade as "Captain."

Surry Co. Court Records 1671-1691 shows that Thomas Pitman had contracted to build a house for Wm. Browne, but that Browne stopped the work.[1] The court was instructed to see how much payment Pitman deserved for the amount of work and 3 men were appointed to study the situation and report back to the court in 7 days. [2]

Thomas Sr. must have been an honorable man, called as witness and to represent friends in court on several occasions.[3]

Capt. Thomas Pittman is listed a total of 36 times in these two books of county records.

Marriages With his first wife Frances (Unknown), he had at least 5 children. Legend says that Thomas and Frances were married and had several children before immigrating to the colony, but no record of their marriage has been found.

Thomas married Martha (Unknown) Atkinson Gwaltney, a widow, in 1666, and acquired the care of a young step-son, William Gwaltney (bc 1655).

After Martha's death in 1672, Thomas married a 3rd time, to Lydia Grey Judkins. She had three sons, Samuel, Robert, and Charles, and at the time of her marriage to Thomas at least Charles was a minor; Thomas was put in charge of Charles' inheritance, a responsibility he gave up a few years later to the eldest brother Samuel.

Involvement in Bacon's Rebellion Along with several other residents of Southwark and Lawnes Creek Parishes, Thomas was involved in Bacon's rebellion with two of his Judkins stepsons. In a deposition of John Price, aged about 27, on 3 July 1677, he recounted Thomas Pittman's part in the rebellion:

"That aboute ye 23d of September last ye Depont. being a prisoner at the house of Mr. Arthur Allen, did heare Arthur Long ordr. & Command Tho. Gibbons to take his Gun & shoote some one of the sd. Mr. Allen's Cattle, & if he could not find any of the old Steeres to kill the first he could meete with upon which the sd Gibbons went out & killed a beast wheather Steere or Cow the Depont. knows not but that night (to ye best of yr. Deponts remembrance) the said Long with Capt. Pitman gave him Leave to goe home Conditionally that he should bring his dogs with him in the morning to Catch Mr Allen's Cattle if any of them should be shott & not killed, but the depont. returning according to time (but wthout his dogs) mett the sd. Long in ye old field neare his owne house."[4] Thomas Pittman and his step-sons Robert and Samuel Judkins were pardoned by the King 6 February 1676/7,[5] and was placed under peace bond by Gov. Berkeley on 26 March 1677.[6]

Will In his will, Thomas lists Joseph Wall as a son-in-law, and William Pitman as a grandson (son of Thomas 2). Some think that his son William Pitman must have died without children. William is listed in Tithables in Surry County consistently from 1679[7] until 1703, the last year I have available.[8]

Age Thomas gave a lengthy deposition in 1677 in a property suit between Thomas Warren and Thomas Rolfe, stating that he was 63 years old, and had been born in England.[9]

Evidence of his age can be found in the Tithables for Surry County, where he appears consistently in the Lawnes Creek parish record from 1667 onward. In 1682, Thomas, due to age, infirmity, or poverty, is put on "parish only" tax roll.[10] This means he had to pay the parish tithe but was no longer liable for Crown taxes.

The last record of him is an entry in the Surry County Tithables recorded 8 June 1691, where he is noted as "Tho: Pittman at Tho: Pittman junr."[11] He must have died shortly thereafter at age 77.

There is a spreadsheet attached to this record with the Tithables listings[12] for Thomas 1, his sons, William 2 and Thomas 2, and Thomas 2's sons Thomas 3, William 3, and Edward 3.

I can add some about the Pittman in James City, Virginia in 1635. His name was Captain Thomas Pittman. He was born in 1614 at Monmouth (Monmouthshire County aka Gwent), Wales. He was a Cavalier under King Charles and fled to America. He arrived between 1640-1642. His oldest child, William, was born in 1640, but the location of this his birth is given as Wales and Virginia. His daughter, Susannah Pittman was born in 1642 in Virginia. Their mother was Frances. Thomas was very active in Virginia. Plug his name into your web browser! I have gotten a lot of information about him from the web. I am a direct descendant of him through his daughter, Susannah. She married Joseph Wall at Virginia. Their granddaughter, Judith Wall, married William DeLoach at Virginia in 1725. William and Judith DeLoach's 2great granddaughter, Georgiana Victoria DeLoach married Malachi Stabler in 1869 at Alabama. Malachi and Georgiana's grandson, Gerald Wayne Stabler was my grandfather. My mother is a Stabler by birth and she married a Daniels - thus me. Barbara Daniels[13]

Thomas was born about 1614. He passed away after 1684.

Sources ↑ Haun, book 4. ↑ Davis, pgs. 8, 9, 12, 179, and vol. 2, pg 166. ↑ Davis vol. 2, p. 166. ↑ Boddie, p. 128, quoting Order Book 2, p. 133. ↑ Boddie, p. 136, quoting Order Book 2, p. 149. ↑ Boddie, p. 137, quoting Order Book 2, p. 119. ↑ MacDonald, p. 41. ↑ MacDonald, p. 176. ↑ Boddie, pp. 68-69. ↑ MacDonald, p. 56. ↑ MacDonald, p. 105. ↑ MacDonald. ↑ Need sources for this information. Boddie, John Bennett. "Colonial Surry. Reprint of Southern Book Co., Baltimore, 1948, by Clearfield Publ. Co., Inc., 1974; reprint by Genealogical Publ. Co., Baltimore, 1992. Davis, Elizabeth Timberlake. Surry County Records, Surry County, Virginia, 1652 to 1684. 1980. This volume is a typed transcription of the original record books. Haun, Weynette Parks. Surry County, VA, Court Records 1671-1691. Durham, North Carolina: W. P. Haun c1986-c2004. 11 vols. MacDonald, Edgar, and Richard Slatten. Surry County [Virginia] Tithables 1668-1703. Reprinted for Clearfield Co. by Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, Maryland, 2007. Pope Genealogy

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All FAMILY LINES participating in this DNA Project grouped by blood relationship:

A. Virginia

(CAPTAIN THOMAS PITMAN LINES ) – Kit# 89208 (AG)

Capt. Thomas Pitman bc 1614 m1Frances m2 Mary Gwaltney m3 Lydia Judkins

Thomas Pittman Jr. bc 1650 m1 Mary (Chambers) Holleman m2 Eliz Lancaster

??Thomas Pittman III b 1695 d 1754

Nathan Pittman b 1734

Newitt Pittman bc 1770 Robeson Co.NC d 12/1830

John Pittman b 1/12/1796 dc 1845

James A. Pittman b 3/16/1833 MarionCo. MS m Eliz. Stanford

Enoch Irvin Pittman b 4/25/1873 d 11/19/1945

Baxter A. Pittman b 3/21/03 d 1/23/79

Clyde Pittman b 7/13/1928 d 10/27/1989

Jerry Dale Pittman b 4/6/1951

Researcher: Jerry Pittman jerry@jerrypittman.com

Researcher: Terri Moore Terrimoore027@aol.com

Researcher: Carol Holmes cpittmanholmes@gmail.com

Researcher: George Purvis: gpthelastrebel@att.net

Researcher: Terrell Johnson: terelmann19@carolina.rr.com

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Thomas Pittman Sr. was born 1614 in Monmouthshire County, England1, and died 1683 in Surry, Surry County, Virginia.

Older notes

He married (1) FRANCES 1633 in England. She was born 1620 in England, and died 1666 in Surry, Surry County, Virginia. She signed a deed of sale on a grinder mill on the James River in 1666 with her husband, but she died.

He married the widow, Mary Gwaultney, a year or so later.(2) MARTHA "MARY" MARRIOTT Bef. October 04, 1666 in Surry, Surry County, Virginia. She was born 1618 in Surry County, Virginia (Formed 1652 From James City County), and died Bef. March 04, 1678/79 in Surry County, Virginia.

He married he married a widow, Judkins, in 1672. 3) LYDIA GRAY September 10, 1672 in Surry, Surry County, Virginia, daughter of WILLIAM GRAY. She was born Abt. 1635, and died February 1677/78 in Surry County, Virginia.

Thomas Sr. and the two Judkins stepsons were involved in Bacon's Rebellion against Berkley, the British governor in 1675-6. All 3 were pardoned by the king a few months lat er, but Pittman was placed under a peace bond. As far as I can tell, Thomas Sr. must have died about 1688 for he does not appear on the tax rolls after that.

Thomas Pittman Sr. was a captain in the Virginia mi litia by 1650 and is listed 36 times in the original Surr y County Court Records 1651 to 1682.

Newer Study

“Descendants of Thomas Pitman (1614 – about 1686) of Surry County, Virginia”
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A study of the records shows that all Pitmans living in the Surry County area before 1750 are descendants of Thomas1 Pitman.

Generation 1

1. THOMAS1 PITMAN was born probably in England about 1614, based on the age he gave in a Surry County court appearance.[] Thomas Pitman died in Surry County sometime after 7 Jan 1686 when he testified in court.[]

Prior to 1635 probably in England, he married (1) FRANCES (---), who appears only on one deed.[] There is no record of her birth or death, but she was most likely deceased in Surry County by 1666.

Thomas married (2) UNKNOWN, the relict of Mr. Wall in Surry County. This unknown spouse had one child, Joseph Wall, by her prior marriage to Mr. Wall.

Thomas married (3) MARTHA (---), the relict of Thomas Atkinson and Thomas Gwaltney, in Surry County before 7 Nov 1667.[] Martha was born about 1618[] and had children by her marriage to Thomas Atkinson but none by her marriage to Thomas Gwaltney. There is no record of Martha’s death.

Thomas1 Pitman died shortly after 7 Jan 1686 when he testified in court.[ ] There are no more references to a Capt. Pitman in the Surry County tithables after 1683. He did not leave a will or an estate record.

Child of Thomas Pitman and his first wife Frances (---) was:

• 2. i. THOMAS2 PITMAN, b. probably in England about 1636, m. (1) UNKNOWN in Surry County, and (2) LYDIA (---)in Surry County before 10 Sep 1672, and d. in Surry County by 1692.

Stepchild of Thomas Pitman, born of his second wife, unknown, by her first husband Mr. Wall was: ^ 3. JOSEPH1 WALL, b. about 1649, m. (1) SUSANNAH KILPATRICK in Surry County by 1676 and (2) ALICE (---) in Surry County by 14 Jul 1718, and d. in Surry County after 19 Apr 1727.

Stepchildren of Thomas Pitman, born of his third wife, Martha (---), by her first husband Thomas Atkinson were:

• 4. THOMAS1 ATKINSON, b. about 1648, m. SUSANNAH (---) in Surry County, and d. in Isle of Wight County after 19 Jan 1687/8.
• 5. JOHN ATKINSON, b. about 1652, m. ANN HOLLEMAN in Surry County, and d. in Isle of Wight County after 17 Apr 1717.
• 6. JAMES ATKINSON, b. about 1656, m. MARY HOLLEMAN in Surry County, and d. in Isle of Wight County after 28 Jul 1723..

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Research: Surry County Records, Virginia, 1651 to 1684. This volume was writte n by Eliza Timberlake Davis and published in 1980. These pages establish the facts that Thomas Pitman was a carpenter (sued f or not finishing a house on time), a farmer (tobacco was grown by most of the settlers), a grinder mill operator which he and Francis Pitman sold their half in 1661 and Thomas Pitman agreed to do the repairs in the future. Early in his career in Virginia he was listed as a Captain in the Virginia Militia. This occurred as early as 1651, and on e has to anticipate from this that he had been a Cavallier under King Charles, probably an officer, and had fled to save his head. He lists Joseph Wall as a son-in-law, and William Pitman as a grandson. We think that William Pitman must have died before he married and had children. He as listed once on the tax roll and no more. Thomas Sr. must have been an honorable man, called as witness and to represent friends in court on several occasions. He married Mary Gwaltney, a widow, in 1666, and another widow, Lidia Judkins in 1672. He was involved in Bacon's rebellion wit h his two Judkins stepsons, was pardoned by the king in 1677, and was placed under peace bond by Gov. Berkeley about a month later. He gave a lengthly deposition in 1677, stating that he was 63 years old, and born in England. He is listed a total of 36 times in these two books of county records. There is no record of him after 1687 and he must have died shortly thereafter at age 74.

There Must Be A Record Here Regarding The Warren House, Built By Thomas Warren About 1652. This House Is Known Now As The Smith Fort Plantation. The Land Was Given To John Rolfe By Powhatan, The Indian Chief In About 1635. This Apparently Was A Gift Or Dowry Since He Married The Daughter, Pokihuntas. In 1652, His Son, Thomas Rolfe, Sold The Plantation To Thomas Warring (Warren), Who Then Proceeded To Build A Brick House On It.

Thomas Pitman, Sr. , Gave A Court Deposition In Surry County March 5, 1677. In That Deposition He Declared That He Wa s 63 Years Old, And Was Present As A Witness When Rolfe Took The Money From Warren And Was Told That It Was Enough For The Land. Mr. Warren Was Said To Have Lived There 28 Years And Had Begun To Build A Brick House There 25 Years Before The Deposition. Mr. Rolfe Had Visited There Many Times A nd Lived Nearby During The 25 Years, And Thomas Pitman Had Never Heard Him Dispute The Ownership Of The Land To The Time Of The Deposition.

This is from Volume IV, page 535 of "Genealogies of Virginia Families': His widow, Lydia Judkins, married in the fall of 1672 Thomas Pittman, Sr., Gent., called variously Lieutenant a nd Capt. Thomas Pittman (marriage contract dated Sept. 10 , 1672, D. & W. 1672-84,p. 20), and was dead prior to Mar.4 , 1678/9, when Lieut. Pittman 'at the request of his deceased wife' transferred property to Charles Judkins, orphan ( id., p. 201).

The Pittman origins are Scandinavian. They went to Saxony, then to Britian. It is believed that he was an officer in the Cavaliers under King Charles who fled to America to save his head.

He was a Captain in the Virginia Militia, a carpenter, farmer, grinder and a mill owner.

The Pittmans were of Scandinavian origin ,and first went into Saxony,and there went into Britton an d settled in Momouthshire.One the Welsh border where they w ere living in the seventeenth century,and fought for thei r ill fated King.The coat of arms was granted to Sir Georg e Pittman,once governor general of India,and a deccendant o f the famous Captain John Pittman of Oliver Cromwell's army . When Charles was beheaded,three Pittman brothers joine d a Cavalier emigration to America and landed at James City ,Virginia.There in the course of time ,they seperated;one b rother going to the northern Colony, One remaining in Virgi nia, And one to the far south.

Also about the cavalier possibility.... it's stated from many sources that Thomas fled England and came here. King Charles I was defeated in 1648. As a cavalier, Tom wouldn't be safe in England.

the date of Tom II's birth in 1655 with Virginia as the birthplace gives a tentative date for arrival in US.

I am trying to try ship manafests that will show him immigrating to Virginia. If any of ya'll have heard of anything that might be helpful, let me know.

definition and adittion information- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavalier

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Surname has also been reported to be Pittman.

Date and place of birth have also been (erroneously?) reported to be 1614 in Virginia.

sources

• Surry County Records, Surry County, Virginia, 1652-1684 By Eliza Timberlake Davis. Page 61. GoogleBooks

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This Thomas is the same as Capt. Thomas Pitman, of Surry County. Merge requested but must be performed by a curator due to relationship locks.