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Edward Grey

Birthdate:
Birthplace: Groby, Leicestershire, England
Death: July 17, 1492 (50)
Astley, Warwickshire, England
Place of Burial: Warwickshire, England
Immediate Family:

Son of Edward Grey, 6th Lord Ferrers of Groby and Elizabeth Ferrers, 6th Lady Ferrers of Groby
Husband of Lady Joan, Viscountess Lisle and Elizabeth Talbot, Baroness Of Lisle
Father of Elizabeth Dudley, 6th Baroness Lisle; Sir John Grey, 2nd Viscount Lisle; Margaret Stafford, Countess of Wiltshire and Anne Willoughby
Brother of Margaret Greystoke; Reynold (Reginald) Grey; Anne Hungerford and Sir John Grey, 7th Lord Ferrers of Groby

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About Edward Grey, 1st Viscount Lisle

Edward Grey, 1st Viscount Lisle (died 1492) was an English nobleman who was created Viscount Lisle in 1483,[1] in recognition of his wife's descent.
Origins
Sir Edward Grey was a younger son of Sir Edward Grey (c. 1415–1457) (a son by his second marriage of Reginald Grey, 3rd Baron Grey de Ruthyn) by his wife Elizabeth Ferrers, 6th Baroness Ferrers of Groby (1419–1483)[2][3][4] His father was summoned to parliament as Baron Ferrers of Groby in right of his wife.[5] His eldest brother was Sir John Grey of Groby (c. 1432-1461), a Lancastrian knight, the first husband of Elizabeth Woodville who later married King Edward IV, and great-great-grandfather of Lady Jane Grey.
Marriage and children
Sir Edward Grey married Elizabeth Talbot, 3rd Baroness Lisle, daughter and eventual heiress of John Talbot, 1st Viscount Lisle and 1st Baron Lisle (1423–1453), 4th son of John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury by his wife Margaret Beauchamp, heiress to the Barony of Lisle created by writ for her great-great-grandfather Gerard de Lisle (d.1360).[7] By Elizabeth Talbot he had the following children:[8]

  • John Grey, 2nd Viscount Lisle and 4th Baron Lisle (1481–1504), eldest son and heir, who married Muriel Howard, daughter of Thomas Howard, 2nd Duke of Norfolk. They were the parents of Elizabeth Grey, 3rd Viscountess Lisle and 5th Baroness Lisle.
  • Anne Grey
  • Elizabeth Grey, 6th Baroness Lisle (d. 1529), who married twice:
  • Firstly to Edmund Dudley, treasurer to King Henry VII, executed in 1510 by King Henry VIII
  • Secondly to Arthur Plantagenet (d.1542), KG, an illegitimate son of King Edward IV, created Viscount Lisle in recognition of his wife's ancestry.
  • Muryell Grey

There might have been another daughter- Margaret, Countess of Wiltshire, wife of Edward Stafford, 2nd Earl of Wiltshire (who died in 1499), they had no issue. However occasionally in Tudor times name Margaret was used as synonymous with Muriel. Hence Muriel and Margaret might be the same person.
etc.
From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Grey,_1st_Viscount_Lisle
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Sir Edward Grey, 3rd Viscount Lisle, Constable of Kenilworth Castle1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
Last Edited 4 Apr 2020
M, #39576, d. 17 July 1492
Father Sir Edward Grey, Lord Ferrers of Groby1,2,12,13 b. c 1415, d. 18 Dec 1457
Mother Elizabeth Ferrers1,2,12,13 b. c 1419, d. c 23 Jan 1483
Sir Edward Grey, 3rd Viscount Lisle, Constable of Kenilworth Castle married Elizabeth Talbot, daughter of Sir John Talbot, Lord, Baron & 1st Viscount Lisle and Joan Cheddar, before 14 March 1475; They had 1 son (John, 4th Viscount Lisle) & 3 daughters (Margaret, wife of Sir Edward Stafford, Earl of Wiltshire; Anne, wife of Sir John Willoughby; & Elizabeth, wife of Edmund Dudley, Esq., & of Sir Arthur Plantagenet, 6th Viscount Lisle).14,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11 Sir Edward Grey, 3rd Viscount Lisle, Constable of Kenilworth Castle married Joan (Jane) Norton, daughter of John Norton, Esq., after 8 September 1487; No issue.5,15 Sir Edward Grey, 3rd Viscount Lisle, Constable of Kenilworth Castle left a will on 17 July 1492.5,9 He died on 17 July 1492; Buried at Astley, Warwickshire.1,2,5,9 His estate was probated on 26 August 1492.5,9
Family 1
Elizabeth Talbot b. c 1452, d. 8 Sep 1487
Children

  • Margaret Grey16 d. bt 8 Aug 1500 - 9 Sep 1504
  • Anne Grey17 b. c 1475, d. b 1523
  • Sir John Grey, 2nd Viscount Lisle, 4th Baron Lisle+17 b. Apr 1480, d. 9 Sep 1504
  • Elizabeth Grey+14,1,3,4,5,7,8,9,11 b. bt 1482 - 1485, d. bt 10 Aug 1530 - 20 Feb 1531

Family 2
Joan (Jane) Norton b. c 1455, d. bt 8 Aug 1500 - 31 Dec 1500
Citations
.[S11575] The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, by Gerald Paget, Vol. I, p. 98.
1.[S11568] The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. VIII, p. 59-60.
2.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 802.
3.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 555-556.
4.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 302-303.
5.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 172.
6.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 420.
7.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 341.
8.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 159.
9.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 124.
10.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 468.
11.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 301-302.
12.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 157-158.
13.[S11568] The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. VIII, p. 59.
14.[S6] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 163.
15.[S11568] The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. XII/2, p. 737.
16.[S11568] The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. VIII, p. 61.
From: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p1318.htm...
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Edward Grey, 1st Viscount Lisle
M, #2646, d. 17 July 1492
Last Edited=6 Oct 2019
Consanguinity Index=0.11%
Edward Grey, 1st Viscount Lisle was the son of Edward Grey, 6th Lord Astley and Elizabeth Ferrers, Baroness Ferrers (of Groby). He married Elizabeth Talbot, Baroness Lisle, daughter of John Talbot, 1st Viscount Lisle and Joan Chedder.1 He died on 17 July 1492.
He was created 1st Lord and Baron of Talbot [England] on 14 March 1474/75.1 After his marriage, Edward Grey, 1st Viscount Lisle was styled as 1st Viscount Lisle [England] on 28 June 1483.1
Child of Edward Grey, 1st Viscount Lisle
1. Muriel Grey2
Child of Edward Grey, 1st Viscount Lisle and Elizabeth Talbot, Baroness Lisle
2 Elizabeth Grey, 6th Baroness Lisle+ b. c 1470, d. 1525/26
Citations
1.[S37] BP2003 volume 3, page 4079. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37]
2.[S11] Alison Weir, Britain's Royal Families: The Complete Genealogy (London, U.K.: The Bodley Head, 1999), page 130. Hereinafter cited as Britain's Royal Families.
From: http://thepeerage.com/p265.htm#i2646
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Edward GREY (1° V. Lisle)
Born: 1442
Died: 8 Sep 1487 / 1492
Father: Edward GREY (Sir)
Mother: Elizabeth FERRERS (7° B. Ferrers of Groby)
Married: Elizabeth TALBOT (3° B. Lisle)
Children:
1. Margaret GREY
2. Elizabeth GREY (6° B. Lisle)
3. John GREY (2° V. Lisle)
4. Anne GREY
From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/GREY5.htm#Edward%20GREY%20(1%C2%B0%20V.%20Lisle)
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Edward de Grey
Birth 1442
Groby, Hinckley and Bosworth Borough, Leicestershire, England
Death 17 Jul 1492 (aged 49–50)
Leicestershire, England
Burial St. Mary the Virgin Churchyard
Astley, North Warwickshire Borough, Warwickshire, England
Plot Tomb inside New Chapel of Our Lady with his wife Elizabeth Talbot includes alabaster effigies
Find a Grave Memorial ID: 46373557
Lord L'isle. Had only one child John, who had no male heirs. Son of Edward de Grey and Elizabeth Ferrers.
Gravesite Details
The Nave
Family Members
Parents
Sir Edward "6th Lord Ferrers" Grey
1415–1457

Baroness Ferrers of Groby Elizabeth de Ferrers Bourchier
1416–1483

Spouse
Elizabeth Talbot Grey
1435–1487

Siblings
Sir John Grey
1432–1461

Children
Lady Elizabeth Grey Plantagenet
1470–1525
From: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/46373557/edward_de_grey
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D. LORDS GREY (of Ruthin)
etc.
EDWARD Grey, son of REYNOLD Grey Lord Grey (of Ruthin) & his second wife Joan Asteley (-18 Dec 1457).
m as her first husband, ELIZABETH Ferrers, daughter of HENRY Ferrers & his wife Isabel Mowbray ([1417/19]-[23] Jan 1483). She succeeded her grandfather in 1445 as Lady Ferrers (of Groby). She married secondly (before 2 May 1462) as his first wife, John Bourchier of Essex.
Edward & his wife had children:

  • 1. JOHN Grey of Groby ([1431/32]-killed in battle St Albans 17 Feb 1461). m as her first husband, ELIZABETH Wydeville, daughter of RICHARD Wydeville Earl Rivers & his wife Jacquette de Luxembourg (Grafton Regis [1437]-St Saviour’s Abbey, Bermondsey 8 Jun 1492, bur St George’s Chapel, Windsor). A manuscript pedigree dated to [1500] names "Queen Elizabeth" as daughter of "Richard Earl Rivers" and mother of "The Queen that now is" and of "Thomas Marquess of Dorset"[981]. She married secondly (Manor of Grafton Regis, Northamptonshire 1 May 1464) Edward IV King of England. She was crowned Queen of England 26 May 1465 at Westminster Abbey. Her second marriage was declared null and void 25 Jun 1483 by the Act of Parliament “Titulus Regius”, their children becoming illegitimate, but recognised as valid once more Oct 1485 by the first Parliament of King Henry VII. John & his wife had children:
    • a) THOMAS Grey (-30 Aug 1501). He succeeded his paternal grandmother as Lord Ferrers (of Groby). He was created Earl of Huntingdon 1471. He was created Marquess of Dorset 1475. m firstly (Greenwich Oct 1466) ANNE de Holand, daughter of HENRY de Holand Duke of Exeter & his wife Anne of York (-[26 Aug 1467/6 Jun 1474]). The Annales of William Wyrcester record the marriage in Oct 1466 “apud Grenewiche” of “Thomam Gray militem filium reginæ” and “dominam hæredem ducis Exoniæ neptem regis” to the great secret displeasure of “comitis Warrwici” who had previously arranged the marriage of “dictam dominam Annam” to “filium comitis Northumbriæ fratris dicti comitis Warrwici”[982]. m secondly (contract 18 Jul 1474) as her first husband, CECILY Bonville Baroness Harington and Baroness Bonville, daughter of WILLIAM Bonville Lord Harington & his wife Catherine Neville of Salisbury (-12 Apr 1530, bur Astley). She married secondly as his second wife Henry Stafford Earl of Wiltshire. Thomas & his second wife had children:
      • i) THOMAS Grey (22 Jun 1477-10 Oct 1530). Marquess of Dorset. m (1509) as her second husband, MARGARET Wotton, widow of WILLIAM Medley, daughter of ROBERT Wotton of Boughton Malherbe, Kent & his wife Anne Belknap (-after 6 Oct 1535). Thomas & his wife had children:
        • (1) HENRY Grey (17 Jan 1517-executed Tower Hill 23 Feb 1554, bur Royal Chapel of St Peter ad Vincula, Tower of London). He succeeded his father in 1530 as Marquess of Dorset. He was created Duke of Suffolk in 1551. He was attainted for treason for his involvement in Wyatt’s rebellion against Queen Mary I and forfeited his titles and estates. m firstly (before 1530, repudiated) KATHERINE FitzAlan, daughter of WILLIAM FitzAlan Earl of Arundel & his second wife Anne Percy of the Earls of Northumberland (-after 1552). m secondly ([Suffolk Place, Southwark, London] Mar or early May 1533) as her first husband, FRANCES Brandon, daughter of CHARLES Brandon Duke of Suffolk & his wife Mary of England (Bishop’s Hatfield, Hertfordshire [or Westhorpe Hall, Suffolk] 16 Jul 1517-Charterhouse, Sheen, Surrey 21 Nov 1559, bur 5 Dec Westminster Abbey). She married secondly (9 Mar 1554) as his first wife, Adrian Stokes.
        • (2) CATHERINE Grey, daughter of THOMAS Grey Marquess of Dorset & his second wife Margaret Wotton (-1 May 1542). m as his first wife, HENRY FitzAlan Earl of Arundel, son of WILLIAM FitzAlan Earl of Arundel & his second wife Anne Percy of the Earls of Northumberland (23 Apr 1512-Arundel House, Strand, London 24 Feb 1580, bur Arundel).
  • 2. EDWARD Grey (-17 Jul 1492, bur Astley, Warwickshire). Lord Ferrers of Groby. He was created Viscount Lisle 28 Jun 1483. m firstly ELIZABETH Talbot Baroness Lisle of Kingston Lisle, daughter of JOHN Talbot Viscount Lisle & his wife Joan Chedder (1451-8 Sep 1487, bur Astley, Warwickshire). m secondly as her third husband, JOAN, widow firstly of JOHN Treguran and secondly of ROBERT Drope, daughter of --- (-1500, after 8 Aug, bur St Michael’s Cornhill). Edward & his first wife had four children:
    • a) JOHN Grey (Apr 1480-9 Sep 1504, bur Abingdon). Viscount Lisle. m as her first husband, MURIEL Howard, daughter of THOMAS Howard Earl of Surrey (later Duke of Norfolk) & his first wife Eizabeth Tylney (-Lambeth 14 Dec 1512, bur Lambeth). She married secondly (before 9 Jul 1506) Thomas Knyvet of Buckenham, Norfolk. John & his wife had one child:
      • i) ELIZABETH Grey ([25] Mar 1505-[31 Mar/12 May] 1519). Baroness Lisle. Betrothed (1513) to CHARLES Brandon, son of . m (after Jun 1515) as his first wife, HENRY Courtenay Earl of Devon, son of WILLIAM de Courtenay Earl of Devon & his wife Katherine of York ([1498]-beheaded Tower Hill 9 Jan 1539).
    • b) ANNE Grey (-before 1523). m (contract 2 Oct 1486) JOHN Willoughby of Wollaton, Northamptonshire, son of ---.
    • c) ELIZABETH Grey (-[1525/26], bur Jan 1538 Titchfield, Hampshire). King Henry VIII granted “the manors of Fysshewyke and Eccleston, Lanc...” to “Arthur Plantagenet and Elizabeth his wife late the wife of Edmund Dudley” dated 13 Nov 1511[983]. Baroness Lisle 1519. m firstly EDMUND Dudley, son of --- (-beheaded Tower Hill 18 Aug 1510). m secondly (12 Nov 1511) as his first wife, ARTHUR Plantagenet, illegitimate son of EDWARD IV King of England & his mistress Elizabeth Lucy née Waite ([1461/64]-Tower of London 3 Mar 1542, bur [Tower of London]).
    • d) MARGARET Grey (-[8 Aug 1500/9 Sep 1504]). m (settlement 3 Jul 1494) EDWARD Stafford Earl of Wiltshire, son of JOHN Stafford Earl of Wiltshire & his wife Constance Green (7 Apr 1470-Drayton, Northamptonshire 24 Mar 1499, bur Lowick, Northamptonshire). .

From: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3D-K.htm#Ed...
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EARLS of SHREWSBURY 1442-1538 (TALBOT)
EARLS of SHREWSBURY 1442-1538 (TALBOT)
etc.
7. JOHN Talbot (-17 Jul 1453). He was created Lord and Baorn of Lisle in 1445, and Viscount Lisle in 1451. m as her second husband, JOAN Chedder, widow of RICHARD Stafford, daughter of THOMAS Chedder & his wife Isabel Scobhull ([1425]-15 Jul 1464). John Talbot & his wife had three children:

  • a) THOMAS Talbot (-20 Mar 1470). Viscount de Lisle. m (Sep 1466) MARGARET Herbert, daughter of WILLIAM Herbert Lord Herbert (later Earl of Pembroke) & his wife Anne Devereux (-before 1503). She married secondly Henry Bodrugan of Cornwall.
  • b) ELIZABETH Talbot (1451-8 Sep 1487, bur Astley, Warwickshire). Baroness Lisle of Kingston Lisle, suo iure. m as his first wife, EDWARD Grey of Groby, son of EDWARD Grey Lord Ferrers (of Groby) & his wife Elizabeth Baroness Ferrers (of Groby) (-17 Jul 1492, bur Astley, Warwickshire). He was created Lord and Baron of Lisle in 1475, and Viscount Lisle in 1483.
  • c) MARGARET Talbot (-before 13 Mar 1475) . m GEORGE Vere, son of ---.

etc.
From: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#...
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E. DUKES of NORFOLK 1483-1572 (HOWARD)
etc.
THOMAS Howard, son of JOHN Howard Duke of Norfolk & his first wife Catherine Moleyns (Stoke Neyland 1443-Framlingham Castle 21 May 1524, bur 26 Jun 1524 Thetford Abbey). He was created Earl of Surrey 28 Jun 1483. He was wounded and taken prisoner at the battle of Bosworth 22 Aug 1485, but found favour with King Henry VII whom he served for many years[1095]. He was created Earl Marshal for life 10 Jul 1510, and Duke of Norfolk 1 Feb 1514 (when he resigned the Earldom of Surrey in favour of his eldest son).
m firstly (30 Apr 1472) as her second husband, ELIZABETH Tylney, widow of HUMPHREY Bourchier, daughter of FREDERICK Tylney of Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk & his wife Elizabeth Cheney of Ditton, Cambridgeshire (-4 Apr 1497).
m secondly (Papal dispensation 17 Aug 1497, licence 8 Nov 1497) AGNES Tylney, daughter of HUGH Tylney of Boston, Lincoln & his wife --- Tailboys (-bur 31 May 1545 Framlingham Abbey).
Duke Thomas & his first wife had ten children:
etc.

  • 9. MURIEL Howard (-Lambeth 14 Dec 1512, bur Lambeth). m firstly JOHN Grey Viscount Lisle, son of EDWARD Grey (of Groby) Viscount Lisle & his first wife Elizabeth Talbot Baroness Lisle of Kingston Lisle (Apr 1480-9 Sep 1504, bur Abingdon Monastery). m secondly (before 9 Jul 1506) THOMAS Knyvet of Buckenham, Norfolk (-killed in battle Brest Aug 1512).

etc.
From: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#...
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Primary Sources

Inquisitions Post Mortem for Edward Grey, Viscount Lisle.

"Elizabeth, late his wife"

"Lady Joan, Viscountess Lisle, who survives, widow, late the wife of the said Edward, and formerly wife of Robert Drope"

He died 17 July last [1492]. John Grey, aged 11 years, is his son and heir, and likewise son and heir of the said Elizabeth.

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Edward Grey, 1st Viscount Lisle's Timeline

1442
April 28, 1442
Groby, Leicestershire, England
1465
1465
Sussex, England
1480
April 1480
1481
1481
1492
July 17, 1492
Age 50
Astley, Warwickshire, England
July 27, 1492
Age 50
St. Mary the Virgin Churchyard, Chapel of Astley, Warwickshire, England
1933
November 25, 1933
Age 50
1934
May 8, 1934
Age 50