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Lady Elizabeth Howard (Tilney), Countess of Surrey

Also Known As: "Elizabeth Tylney"
Birthplace: Ashwellthorpe Manor,, Norfolk, England, United Kingdom
Death: April 04, 1497 (46-55)
Thetford, Norfolk, England (United Kingdom)
Place of Burial: unknown
Immediate Family:

Daughter of Sir Frederick Tylney and Elizabeth Cheney, Lady Say
Wife of Sir Humphrey Bourchier and Thomas Howard, 2nd Duke of Norfolk
Mother of John Bourchier, 2nd Baron Berners; Lady Margaret Bryan; Anne Fiennes; Thomas Howard, 3rd Duke of Norfolk; Edmund Howard and 8 others
Half sister of Thomas Saye; Sir William Say, Kt.; Elizabeth Sampson; Lady Anne Wentworth (Say), Baroness Despencer; Mary Calthorpe and 1 other

Occupation: Countess of Surrey
Managed by: Anne Brannen
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About Elizabeth Tilney, Countess of Surrey

a possible birth date from merges is April 1450

a short summary from Wikipedia:

Elizabeth Tilney, Countess of Surrey


1) Sir Humphrey Bourchier

2) Thomas Howard, Earl of Surrey


John Bourchier, 2nd Lord Berners

Anne Bourchier

Margaret Bourchier

Thomas Howard, 3rd Duke of Norfolk

Admiral Sir Edward Howard, Lord High Admiral of England

Lord Edmund Howard

Lady Elizabeth Howard

Muriel Howard

Henry Howard

Richard Howard

Sir John Howard

Charles Howard

Father: Sir Frederick Tilney

Mother: Elizabeth Cheney

Born Before 1445

Ashwellthorpe Manor, Norfolk, England

Died 4 April 1497

"Elizabeth Tilney, Countess of Surrey (before 1445 – 4 April 1497) was an English heiress and lady-in-waiting to two queens. She became the first wife of Thomas Howard, Earl of Surrey.
She served as a lady-in-waiting to Queen consort Elizabeth Woodville, and later as Lady of the Bedchamber to the Queen's daughter, Elizabeth of York, consort of King Henry VII of England. She stood as joint godmother to Princess Margaret Tudor at her baptism. She was the mother of Thomas Howard, 3rd Duke of Norfolk. Through her daughter Elizabeth she was the maternal grandmother of Anne Boleyn, and through another son, Edmund, the paternal grandmother of Catherine Howard, both queens consort of King Henry VIII. Elizabeth's great-granddaughter was Queen Elizabeth I of England. Elizabeth was commemorated as the "Countess of Surrey" in John Skelton's poem, The Garlande of Laurell, following his visit to the Howard residence of Sheriff Hutton Castle."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Tilney,_Countess_of_Surrey (death and legacy section)

Elizabeth Tilney died on 4 April 1497 and it is commonly stated that she was buried in the nun's choir of the Convent of the Minoresses outside Aldgate.[15] In her will, she left money to be distributed to the poor of Whitechapel and Hackney.[16] However, historian Marilyn Roberts presents solid evidence why this will cannot be of Elizabeth Tilney. …

Elizabeth Tilney is often confused with Elizabeth Talbot, last Mowbray Duchess of Norfolk, who definitely was buried in Aldgate. With Aldgate ruled out as a place of burial of Countess of Surrey, it is unknown where she was actually buried. Her family lived at the time of her death in Sheriff Hutton Castle near York, but she could have been buried somewhere else.

17. “The Anne Boleyn Files” (2012) < link > The confusion over the identity of the two Elizabeths and the erroneous attribution of the gift to the poor of Hackney stems from Testamenta Vetusta: Being Illustrations from Wills, of Manners, Customs, &c. as Well as of the Descents and Possessions of Many Distinguished Families. From the Reign of Henry the Second to the Accession of Queen Elizabeth, Volume 2; Sir Nicholas Harris Nicolas, 1826.










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Elizabeth Tilney, Countess of Surrey's Timeline

Ashwellthorpe Manor,, Norfolk, England, United Kingdom
June 1, 1468
Benningborough, Yorkshire, England, UK
Benningborough, Yorkshire, England
Kenninghall, Norfolk, England
Norfolk, England
Tisbury, Wiltshire, England