Henry II de Ferrers, 4th Baron Ferrers of Groby

Henry FERRERS (4° B. Ferrers of Groby)

• Born: 16 Feb 1356, Abbey of Tiltey
• Christened: Stebbing
• Died: 3 Feb 1388
• Father: William FERRERS (3º B. Ferrers of Groby)
• Mother: Margaret De UFFORD
• Married: Joan de Poyning (Joan de Hoo)

Notes: The Complete Peerage vol.V,pp351-3.

He married, before 27 April 1371, Joan, daughter (probably) of Sir Thomas de Hoo, of Luton Hoo and Stopsley, Beds, by Isabel, daughter and heir of Sir John DE SEINT LEGER, of Offley, Herts (a). He died 3 February 1387. His widow's dower was ordered to be assigned, 20 March 1387/8, and on 18 February 1388/9 she had livery of the knights' fees and advowsons of her dower, which were assigned to her by the King. She died 30 May 1394. [Complete Peerage V:351-3, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

(a) Dugdale, citing Glover (who seems, however, to have merely followed the Visitation pedigree), calls Joan "da. of Thomas Poynings": this being impossible, later writers altered the statement to "da. of Luke Poynings." But Luke, in his will (1376)--which was unknown to these writers--does not mention her, though he leaves legacies to some two dozen persons. In 1371 the King gave to Luke de Ponynges the wardship of the lands of William de Ferrers (not the marriage of the heir, who was probably already married), but there is no reason to thence assume--as appears to have been done--that Joan belonged to the family of Poynings. However, her seal on a grant of hers, has a shield of Ferrers impaling on a chief two mullets pierced, presumably for St. John, as used by Poynings. On the other hand, the fact that her eldest son was born at the principal manor of Sir Thomas de Hoo affords a strong presumption that she was a daughter of Sir Thomas: Sir William de Hoo, son and heir of Thomas, was a feoffee of Henry de Ferrers in 1377.

[Note: the portion of the above note (a) which reads "Poynings. However, her seal on a grant of hers, has a shield of Ferrers impaling on a chief two mullets pierced, presumably for St. John, as used by Poynings." was added by CP XIV: 321, published in 1998, and is the basis for Plantagenet Ancestry declaring that Joan was a daughter of Luke de Poynings.] 4115

Married 1: Joan De HOO (dau. of Thomas De Hoo and Isabel St. Leger) BEF 27 Apr 1371

Children:

1. William FERRERS (5° B. Ferrers of Groby)

Married 2: Joan POYNINGS Apr 1371, Groby, Leicestershire, England

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Husband's Name

Henry FERRERS (AFN:8J5Q-D0)  Pedigree   

Born: 16 Feb 1355/1356 Place: Of, Groby, Warwickshire, England
Died: 1388 Place:
Married: Abt 1371 Place:
Father: William De FERRERS (AFN:9H40-23) Family
Mother: Margaret D' UFFORD (AFN:9G94-G5)
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Wife's Name

Joan HOO (AFN:B3DF-CG)  Pedigree   

Born: Abt. 1358 Place: <Of, Groby, Warwickshire, England>
Died: 30 May 1394 Place:
Married: Abt 1371 Place:
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Children

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1.  Sex  Name    

M William FERRERS (AFN:G5PV-LN) Pedigree
Born: Abt 1357 Place: Of, Groby, Lancashire, England
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2.  Sex  Name    

M William FERRARS (AFN:B3DJ-NF) Pedigree
Born: 1372/3 Place: Of, Groby, Leicestershire, England
Christened: 25 Apr 1373 Place: Hoo Manor, Luton Hoo, Bedfordshire, England
Died: 18 May 1445 Place: , Woodham Ferrers, Essex, England
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4th Lord Ferrers of Groby[1]

1356 - 1388

Birth 16 Feb 1356 Abbey of Tiltey

Sex Male

Lived In England

Complete *

Died 3 Feb 1388

Person ID I00177524 Leo

Last Modified 13 Jun 2004

Father William de Ferrers, 3rd Lord Ferrers of Groby, b. est 1333

Mother Margaret de Ufford

Family ID F00044073 Group Sheet

Family Joan de Hoo

Married Bef 27 Apr 1371

Children

	1. Isabel de Ferrers

2. William Ferrers, 5th Lord Ferrers of Groby, b. est 1372
Last Modified 24 Apr 2007

Family ID F00076559 Group Sheet

Sources 1. [S00058] The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 351

He married, before 27 April 1371, Joan, daughter (probably) of Sir Thomas de Hoo, of Luton Hoo and Stopsley, Beds, by Isabel, daughter and heir of Sir John DE SEINT LEGER, of Offley, Herts (a). He died 3 February 1387. His widow's dower was ordered to be assigned, 20 March 1387/8, and on 18 February 1388/9 she had livery of the knights' fees and advowsons of her dower, which were assigned to her by the King. She died 30 May 1394. [Complete Peerage V:351-3, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

(a) Dugdale, citing Glover (who seems, however, to have merely followed the Visitation pedigree), calls Joan "da. of Thomas Poynings": this being impossible, later writers altered the statement to "da. of Luke Poynings." But Luke, in his will (1376)--which was unknown to these writers--does not mention her, though he leaves legacies to some two dozen persons. In 1371 the King gave to Luke de Ponynges the wardship of the lands of William de Ferrers (not the marriage of the heir, who was probably already married), but there is no reason to thence assume--as appears to have been done--that Joan belonged to the family of Poynings. However, her seal on a grant of hers, has a shield of Ferrers impaling on a chief two mullets pierced, presumably for St. John, as used by Poynings. On the other hand, the fact that her eldest son was born at the principal manor of Sir Thomas de Hoo affords a strong presumption that she was a daughter of Sir Thomas: Sir William de Hoo, son and heir of Thomas, was a feoffee of Henry de Ferrers in 1377.

[Note: the portion of the above note (a) which reads "Poynings. However, her seal on a grant of hers, has a shield of Ferrers impaling on a chief two mullets pierced, presumably for St. John, as used by Poynings." was added by CP XIV: 321, published in 1998, and is the basis for Plantagenet Ancestry declaring that Joan was a daughter of Luke de Poynings.] 4115www.findagrave.com

Sir Henry Ferrers
BIRTH 15 Feb 1355
Tilty, Uttlesford District, Essex, England
DEATH 3 Feb 1388 (aged 32)
Groby, Hinckley and Bosworth Borough, Leicestershire, England
BURIAL
St. Philip and St. James Churchyard
Groby, Hinckley and Bosworth Borough, Leicestershire, England
MEMORIAL ID 71635002

Henry was born in Tiltey Abbey, and died at Groby Old Hall, whose church served as the parish church of Groby. It was remodeled not long after Henry died, and its tower replaced with a structure of Groby granite, more or less identical in appearance, in the 19th century.
He was the 4th Baron Ferrers of Groby and a supporter of Richard II against the Lancastrians whose dynastic claim was soon to break out into the War of the Roses. He fought for the King in a lost cause to maintain his holdings in Brittany from 1377-1381, and was called to fight in Scotland in 1385.

Son of William de Ferrers and his first wife, Margaret de Ufford, daughter of Robert de Ufford and Margaret de Norwich.

Family Members
Parents
William Ferrers
1332–1371
Margaret de Ufford de Ferrers
1333–1368

Spouse
Joan De Poynings Ferrers
1356–1394

Siblings
Margaret Ferrers Beauchamp
unknown–1406

Children
William Ferrers
1372–1445