Hugh "the Timid", count of Tours

Hugues "the Timid" von Sundgau, count of Tours French: Hugues "le Méfiant", count of Tours, German: von Sundgau, count of Tours
Also Known As:	"Huges 'the Timid' von Sundgau"
Birthdate:	circa 775
Birthplace:	Haut-Rhin, Alsace, France
Death:	October 20, 837 (57-66) Tours, Indre Et Loire, Touraine Centre, France (died during an epidemic in Italy in 837)
Place of Burial:	Monza, Monza e Brianza, Lombardia, Italy
Immediate Family:	Husband of Ava de Morvois, Countess of Lower Alsace Father of Luitfried III, count in Sundgau; Hugues I, count of Bourges; Bertha of Tours; Ermengarde of Tours; Adelaide of Tours and 1 other; and Berengar of Tours « less
Occupation:	Count of Upper Alsace (Sundgau), Duke of Alsace, Comte de Tours, Ambassadeur to Constantinople, Count of Tours, Count of Sens, Duke of Locate, graaf van Tours, hoveling
Dynasty:	Eticho

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Last Updated:	April 26, 2022

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Ava de Morvois, Countess of Lowe...

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Luitfried III, count in Sundgau

son
Hugues I, count of Bourges

son
Bertha of Tours

daughter
Ermengarde of Tours

daughter
Adelaide of Tours

daughter
Berengar of Tours

son

About Hugh "the Timid", count of Tours

Medilands 24 Mar 2022 Alsace Liutfried (Family of Hugues Comte de Tours)

According to Thegan, this family descended from the early 8th century dukes in Alsace (see Chapter 1.A) as he refers to the wife of Emperor Lothar as "filiam Hugi comitis, qui erat de stirpe cuiusdam ducis nomine Etih"[135]. The Miraculis Sancti Germani refers to Adelheid, daughter of Hugues Comte de Tours, as “primorum et ipsa natalium perinde titulus gloriosa”[136]. This may be hyperbole, but the wording does suggest an unusually illustrious ancestry. The precise relationship has not yet been identified but the name “Liutfried” does suggest a family connection with the earlier Alsatian ducal family. Such a connection could also explain (1) the high profile marriages of Hugues’s daughters into the imperial family and the families of some of the most prominent nobility at the Carolingian court and (2) the extent of Hugues’s property interests in Alsace which are revealed by the charter with Wissenbourg which records exchanges which he made 2 Sep 1820[137].

LIUTFRIED [I] (-after 11 Jan 813)....

HUGUES (-20 Oct 837, bur Monza).

Thegan refers to the wife of Emperor Lothar as "filiam Hugi comitis, qui erat de stirpe cuiusdam ducis nomine Etih" and in the following paragraph names her "Irmingarda"[139].
"Karolus… augustus…imperator Romanum…rex Francorum et Langobardorum" donated property "in pago Andegavino in loco Laniaco…et in pago Rodonico" to Kloster Prüm by charter dated 28 Apr 807 which names "Hugo comes"[140].
Comte de Tours: Einhard names "Haido episcopus Baslensus et Hugus comes Toronicus et Aio Langobardus de Foroiluii" as imperial missi who met the missi from Constantinople in 811[141].
The Annales Fuldenses record that the emperor sent "Haitonem Basilensem episcopus et Hug comitem Turonicum et Aio Langobardum de Aquileia" as missi to Constantinople in 811 to confirm the peace "cum Niceforo"[142].
The Gesta Francorum names "Hug comitem Turonicum" in 811[143].
Timiolus and abbot of St Julien d'Auxerre 811.
The extensive interests of Hugues in Alsace are confirmed by the following document: a charter confirms imperial agreement to an exchange of property agreed 2 Sep 820 between “Huc quondam comes” and “monasterium... Wizunburg” which specifies numerous places in Alsace[144]. The reference “quondam” is unexplained unless the document was prepared later than the date specified, either during the period which followed Hugues’s asset confiscations in [828] or after he died.
Thegan's Vita Hludowici Imperatoris records that Emperor Louis was met at "Compendium" by "Pippinus filius eius cum magnatis primis patris sui…Hug et Matfrido…Gotefrido"[145].
>>The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris names "Hugonem et Mathfridum comites" as missi of Pepin King of Aquitaine [in 827][146].
Wilsdorf highlights the likelihood that the failure of their campaign against the Moors in the march of Spain at this time was due to delay in Hugues and Matfried arriving with their army in time to prevent the devastation of areas around Barcelona and Girona[147]. This appears confirmed by the Vita Hludowici Imperatoris which records that the affair was submitted to an assembly at Aachen in Feb 828 which recommended the confiscation of their assets as punishment[148]. This presumably included the county of Tours, in the case of Hugues who, as noted below, was called “timidus” by Thegan.
Wilsdorf highlights the probable involvement of Hugues in the plots in [830/36], resulting from the rivalry between Emperor Louis (and his wife Judith) and the emperor’s eldest son Lothaire, which resulted in further periods of successive rehabilitation and disgrace for Hugues, culminating in his exile to northern Italy[149].
Thegan's Vita Hludowici Imperatoris records that "Hlutharius" submitted to his father Emperor Louis I [in 836] followed by "socer eius Hug timidus"[150].
The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris records that "Wala Corbeiensis abbas, Matfridus, Hugo, Lantbertus, Godefridus, itemque filius eius Godefridus, Agimbertus comes Pertensis…sed et Richardus" died between "Kal Sep usque ad missam sancti Martini" [in 836][151].
The Gesta Francorum records that "Lantbertus et Hugus" were among the "plureo ex primoribus Italiæ" who were killed at Ticino "837 III Kal Ian noctu octies" when "tremuisse perhibetur"[152].
The Annales Fuldenses also record the earthquake at Ticino in Italy "837 III Kal Ian" in which "plures ex primoribus Italiæ" were killed including "Lantbertus et Hugus"[153].

m AVA, daughter of --- (-4 Sep 839, bur Monza). Her marriage is inferred from the testament of her supposed son-in-law "Gerardus [comes]" who names "coniugis meæ…Berthæ…genitoribus atque parentibus…Luthardi et Grimildis atque…Hugonis et Bavæ…filiis et filiabus ipsorum"[154].

Hugues & his wife had six children:

ERMENGARDE (-20 Mar 851, bur Kloster Erstein, near Strasbourg).....
ADELAIS (-after 866).....
BERTA (-[6 Nov] 877).....
HUGUES (-before 24 Jan 835, bur Milan San Ambrogio).....
LIUTFRIED [II] (-[864/66]).....
BERENGAR (-[838]).....

Wikipédia français (6 mars 2022) "Hugues de Tours"

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NB. Though most of the sources state his death in October 837, www.familysearch.org (not a reliable source) states it as been in June 14, 0844 during a battle.

enWikipedia (17 Sep 2021) Hugh of Tours

Hugh (or Hugo) (c. 780 – 837) was the count of Tours and Sens during the reigns of Charlemagne and Louis the Pious, until his disgrace in February 828.

Hugh had many possessions in Alsace, as well as the County of Sens. He also held the convent of St-Julien-d'Auxerre. He appeared in 811 as an envoy or ambasciator to Constantinople with Haido, Bishop of Basel, and Aio, Duke of Friuli, to renew the Pax Nicephori.[1] In 821, he allied himself by marriage to the royal family; his daughter Ermengard married Louis' son Lothair. In 824, he took part in an expedition in Brittany and, in 826, he accompanied the Empress Judith to the baptism of Harald Klak in Ingelheim. His other daughter, Adelaide, married Conrad I, Count of Auxerre (died 862).[2][a] She took as her second husband Robert the Strong. She was dead by 886, when Walahfrid Strabo included her epitaph in a poem of his.

In 827, Hugh, along with Matfrid of Orléans, was commissioned by Louis to recruit an army with his son Pepin I of Aquitaine and repel the invasion of the Marca Hispanica by the Moslem general Abu Marwan. Hugh and Matfrid delayed until the threat had passed. For this he was given the nickname Timidus or the Timid. Barcelona being the greatest military accomplishment of Louis' career, the Spanish March meant much to him and Hugh and Matfrid found themselves greatly disfavoured at court. They were deposed in February of the next year.

He remained very influential as the father-in-law of Lothair. He joined Matfrid in inciting Lothair to rebellion and had all his lands confiscated in Gaul. He remained highly influential in Italy, where Lothair created him "duke of Locate" (dux de Locate). He became a benefactor of the cathedral of Monza. According to the Annales Bertiniani, he and Lambert of Nantes died during an epidemic in Italy in 837. News of their deaths—and that of Wala of Corbie in an earlier Italian epidemic in the fall of the previous year—greatly distressed Louis the Pious, but the opponents of Lothair interpreted it as divine judgement.[3][4]

References

Duckett 1962, p. 123.
Bouchard 1999, p. 340.
Melson 1991, p. 37.
Hummer 2005, p. 165.

Sources

Bouchard, Constance Brittain (1999). "Burgundy and Provence, 879-1032". In Reuter, Timothy (ed.). The New Cambridge Medieval History: Volume 3, C.900-c.1024. Vol. III. Cambridge University Press.
Duckett, Eleanor Shipley (1962). Carolingian Portraits: A Study in the Ninth Century. The University of Michigan Press.
Hummer, Hans J. (2005). Politics and Power in Early Medieval Europe: Alsace and the Frankish Realm, 600–1000. Cambridge University Press.
Nelson, Janet L. (1991). The Annals of St-Bertin. Manchester: Manchester University Press.

Wikipedia Nederlands Hugo van Tours (edelman)

Wikipédia français Hugues III de Tours et de la Haute Alsace

He was a trusted official of Charlemagne and Louis the Pious, until his disgrace in February 828. He was an ambassador to Constantinople in 811. In 824, he took part in an expedition in Brittany and, in 826, he accompanied the Empress Judith to the baptism of Harald Klak in Ingelheim. In 827 he was one of the officials in charge of repelling a Muslim invasion led by Abu Marwan. He delayed until the threat was passed, and lost his favor at court. He was deposed in February 828. He rebelled, lost and had his lands in Gaul confiscated. However, he remained influential in Italy, where Lothair created him Duke of Locate.

Moriarty accepts his descent from Eticho, but says the early history of that family is in great confusion. The sources, he says, give a long pedigree from Eticho but offer no valid proof. Chaume suggests that he might have been son of Hugh, princeps in Burgundy. Other sources suggest that his father was Haicho, an Etichonid.

Wikipedia:

Hugo von Tours (* um 780; † 20. Oktober 837) war vermutlich ein Sohn des Grafen Haicho aus dem Haus der Etichonen und damit ein Ururenkel des Herzogs Eticho von Elsass; sicher ist, dass er ein Nachkomme Etichos war. Der Zweig der Familie, an dessen Spitze er steht, wird Liutfriden genannt.

Er hatte zunächst vor allem im Elsass Besitz, war dann unter Kaiser Ludwig dem Frommen auch Graf von Tours und vermutlich auch Graf von Sens, und damit im Besitz zweier der wichtigsten Grafschaften des Frankenreichs. Darüber hinaus war er Vogt des Frauenklosters St-Julien-d’Auxerre.

811 war er einer der kaiserlichen Gesandten Karls des Großen in Konstantinopel. 821 heiratete seine Tochter Irmingard Karls Enkel, den späteren Kaiser Lothar I. Seine Bedeutung erschließt sich auch dadurch, dass er 824 im Reichenauer Verbrüderungsbuch als erster Graf aufgeführt wird. Im gleichen Jahr nahm er an einen Feldzug gegen die Bretonen teil. 826 waren er und Graf Matfried von Orléans die Begleiter der Kaiserin Judith bei der Taufe des Dänenkönigs Harald Klak in Ingelheim.

827 führte er das fränkische Entsatzheer auf dem Feldzug gegen die Mauren im Raum Barcelona. Da sein zögerndes Vorgehen (ihm wurde der Beiname „timidus“, der Ängstliche, gegeben) das zu späte Eintreffen dieses Heers mit verschuldete, wurde er 828 auf einem Hoftag in Aachen – ebenso wie Matfried von Orléans – abgesetzt, blieb aber von großem Einfluss in der Umgebung seines Schwiegersohnes Lothar I., den er sogar gegen seinen Vater Ludwig aufgewiegelt haben soll. Nach dem Verlust seiner Güter und Ämter in Gallien trat er, weiterhin in der Gunst Lothars, als einer der wichtigsten fränkischen Adligen in Italien auf, wird sogar nach einem Königsgut, das ihm übereignet wurde, „dux de Locate“ – gemeint ist Locate di Triulzi bei Mailand – genannt.

Hugo und seine Frau Ava († um 840) hatten mindestens fünf Kinder:

   * Irmingard (* um 805, † 20. März 851) ∞ 821 Lothar I., König von Lotharingien

   * Adelais (Adelheid) († nach 866) ∞ I Konrad I. Graf im Argen- und Linzgau († 863) (Welfen), ∞ II Robert der Tapfere (X 866) Graf von Paris (Robertiner)

   * Liutfrid I. (* um 800/805, † 865/866) Graf von Tours, Laienabt von Münster-Granfelden ∞ NN

   * Bertha (* um 805, † nach 870), ∞ 819 Gerhard II. (* 800, † 878/879) Graf von Paris, Graf (dux) von Vienne (* 800, † 878/879) (Matfriede)

   * Hugo († vor 25. Januar 835) begraben in San Ambrogio in Mailand

Hugo von Tours wurde in der Kirche zu Monza begraben.

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Hugh eller Hugo (C.780 - 20 oktober 837) var räkna av Tours och Sens under härskar av Karl den store och Ludvig den fromme, Tills hans skam i februari 828. Han var troligen en son till greve Haicho av House of the Etichonen.

Hugh hade många ägodelar i Alsace, Inklusive Sens. Han höll också klostret St-Julien-d'Auxerre. Han medverkade i 811 som ett sändebud eller ambasciator till Konstantinopel med Haido, biskop av Basel, Och Aio, Hertig av Friuli, Att förlänga Pax Nicephori. I 821, allierade han sig genom äktenskapet med den kungliga familjen, hans dotter Ermengard gift Louis son Lothar. I 824 deltog han i en expedition Brittany och i 826, följde han Empress Judith till dop Harald Klak i Ingelheim. Hans andra dotter, Adelaide, gift Konrad I, greve av Auxerre (Död 862).[1] Hon är ibland sägs ha tagit som sin andre make Robert Stark. Hon var död av 886, när Walahfrid Strabo inkluderade hennes gravskrift i en dikt av hans.

I 827, Hugh, tillsammans med Matfrid av Orléans, Fick i uppdrag av Louis att rekrytera en armé med sin son Pippin I av Akvitanien och avvärja invasionen av Marca Hispanica av muslimska allmänna Abu Marwan. Hugh och Matfrid anstå tills hotet var över. För detta fick han smeknamnet Timidus eller Den blyga. Barcelona är den största militära utföra Louis karriär innebar spanska mars mycket för honom och Hugh och Matfrid befann sig kraftigt missgynnas vid hovet. De var avsatt i februari nästa år.

Han förblev mycket tyngd som svärfar av Lothar. Han började Matfrid i anstiftan Lothar till uppror och hade alla hans landområden konfiskerade i Gallien. Han förblev mycket inflytelserika i Italien, Där Lothar skapade honom "hertig av Leta"(DUX de Lokalisera).

Hugh or Hugues (Le Mefiant) d'Alsace (son of Luitfride d'Alsace and Hiltrude d'Alsace) was born Abt. 765 in Upper Alsace, France and died 836. He married Ava de Tours on Abt. 790..

Children of Hugh or Hugues (Le Mefiant) d'Alsace and Ava de Tours are:

+Berthe de Tours, b. Abt. 791, d. November 08, 871

+Hugh de Bourges, b. Abt. 800d. 833

+Luitfride d'Alsace, b. Abt. 793 d. 8652.

+Adela or Adelaide de Tours d'Alsace, b. Abt. 802, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, Centre, France, d. Abt. 866

II Hugh or Hugues (Le Mefiant) d'Alsace (b. Abt. 765, d. 836)

Hugh or Hugues (Le Mefiant) d'Alsace2299 was born Abt. 765 in Upper Alsace, France2300, 2301, 2302, 2303, 2304, and died 8362305, 2306. He married Ava de Tours on Abt. 7902306.

Notes for Hugh or Hugues (Le Mefiant) d'Alsace:

[Maud.ged]

[IT:Count of Tours.:IT]

More About Hugh or Hugues (Le Mefiant) d'Alsace and Ava de Tours:

Marriage: Abt. 7902306

Children of Hugh or Hugues (Le Mefiant) d'Alsace and Ava de Tours are:

+Berthe de Tours, b. Abt. 7912307, 2308, 2309, d. November 08, 8712310, 2311.

+Luitfride d'Alsace, b. Abt. 7932312, 2313, 2314, d. 8652315, 2316, 2317.

+Ermengarde d'Orleans de Tours, b. Abt. 795, Hesbaye, Liege, Belgium2318, 2319, 2320, 2321, d. March 20, 850/51, ,, Burgundy, France2322, 2323, 2324, 2325.

+Hugh de Bourges, b. Abt. 8002326, 2327, d. 8332328, 2329.

+Adela or Adelaide de Tours d'Alsace, b. Abt. 802, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, Centre, France2330, 2331, 2332, 2333, 2334, 2335, 2336, d. Abt. 8662337, 2338, 2339.

•Name: Hugues De Tours II 1 2
•Sex: M •Title: Count of Upper Alsace •Birth: 765 in Upper Alsace, France 3 •Death: 837 1 2

He was a trusted official of Charlemagne and Louis the Pious, until his disgrace in February 828. He was an ambassador to Constantinople in 811. In 824, he took part in an expedition in Brittany and, in 826, he accompanied the Empress Judith to the baptism of Harald Klak in Ingelheim. In 827 he was one of the officials in charge of repelling a Muslim invasion led by Abu Marwan. He delayed until the threat was passed, and lost his favor at court. He was deposed in February 828. He rebelled, lost and had his lands in Gaul confiscated. However, he remained influential in Italy, where Lothair created him Duke of Locate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_of_Tours

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His ancestry is continued elsewhere on this tree.

Hugh's father was Count of Alsace Hugh (le Mefiant) de Bourges III and his mother was Countess of Tours Ava Eticondes. His paternal grandparents were Count Luitfrid of Upper Alsace II and Countess Hiltrude of Alsace; his maternal grandparents were Comte de Tours Luitfied Enticondes and <Unknown>. He had four brothers and four sisters, named Luitfried, Etienne, Renaud, Stephen, Ermengarde, Aelis, Bertha and Petronilla. He was the oldest of the nine children.

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                        Alsace, France defunción: 	 14 June 0844

                         In Battle número de CD: 	 0

Padres Padre: Luitfried de Alsace Count of Alsace (AFN: 30DS-D75) madre: Hiltrude (AFN: 30DS-GH5)

Matrimonios (1) cónyuge: Aba de Alsace (AFN: 3099-56C)

	Ocultar hijos (4) hijo 1: 	       Ermengarde de Tours  (AFN: 309G-0RP) sexo: 	       female nacimiento:

                       France defunción: 	 20 March 0851

                        France

hijo 2: Adelaide de Tours (AFN: 3098-XH2) sexo: female defunción:
hijo 3: Bertha de Tours (AFN: 30DS-868) sexo: female nacimiento: 0794

                        Alsace, France defunción:

hijo 4: Hugh de Bourges Count of Bourges (AFN: 30DS-4TH) sexo: male nacimiento: 0802 defunción:

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Hugues II d'Alsace, comte de Tours[1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7] Male Abt 765 - 837

Suffix comte de Tours Born Abt 765 of, Upper Alsace, France Find all individuals with events at this location Gender Male AFN 9HQD-K6 Ecclesiastic 811 [8] Timiolus and Abbott of St. Julien d'Auxere Title 828 [8] Count of Tours then Duke of the area by Mailand Name AKA Hugo [9] Name AKA Hugo [10] Name AKA Hugues [11] Name AKA Hugues "le Coüard" [4] Name AKA Hugues "le Poltron" [4] Name AKA Hugues I count of Tour [12] Name AKA Hugues II Count of of upper Alsace [13] Died 20 Oct 837 [8] Buried of, Monza, Lombardia, Italy Find all individuals with events at this location [8] Notes TITLES: Count of Upper-Alsace. Person ID I12815 Europe: Royal and Noble Houses of Europe Last Modified 8 Apr 2014

Father Luitfrid II, Count of Upper Alsace, b. Abt 740, of, , Alsace-Lorraine, France Find all individuals with events at this location, d. 780 Mother Hiltrude, Countess of Upper Alsace, b. Abt 744, , Alsace, France Find all individuals with events at this location, d. Yes, date unknown Married 764 Family ID F6271 Group Sheet

Family Bava de Tours, comtesse de lower Alsace, b. Abt 769, of, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this location, d. 4 Nov 839 Married Y [14, 15] Children

	1. Luitfrid, Herr von Monza,   b. Abt 798, of, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt 865-866

	2. Ermengarde de Tours, Empress of Holy Roman Empire,   b. Abt 802, of, , Alsace-Lorraine, France Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 20 Mar 851

	3. Adela de Tours, Princess of The Holy Roman Empire, of, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 866

	4. Bertha de Tours, of, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown

	5. Hugo de Tours, of, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 25 Jan 835 Last Modified 	14 Mar 2013  Family ID 	F7029 	Group Sheet

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Source: https://histfam.familysearch.org//getperson.php?personID=I12815&tre...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_of_Tours

Not son of Luitfried II (who left no heirs). Probably son of Haicho.

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NB. Though most of the sources state his death in October 837, www.familysearch.org (not a reliable source) states it as been in June 14, 0844 during a battle.

Wikipedia English Hugh of Tours
Wikipedia Nederlands Hugo van Tours (edelman)
Wikipedia Français Hugues III de Tours et de la Haute Alsace

He was a trusted official of Charlemagne and Louis the Pious, until his disgrace in February 828. He was an ambassador to Constantinople in 811. In 824, he took part in an expedition in Brittany and, in 826, he accompanied the Empress Judith to the baptism of Harald Klak in Ingelheim. In 827 he was one of the officials in charge of repelling a Muslim invasion led by Abu Marwan. He delayed until the threat was passed, and lost his favor at court. He was deposed in February 828. He rebelled, lost and had his lands in Gaul confiscated. However, he remained influential in Italy, where Lothair created him Duke of Locate.

Moriarty accepts his descent from Eticho, but says the early history of that family is in great confusion. The sources, he says, give a long pedigree from Eticho but offer no valid proof. Chaume suggests that he might have been son of Hugh, princeps in Burgundy. Other sources suggest that his father was Haicho, an Etichonid.

Hugh of Tours

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Hugh or Hugo (c.780 – 20 October 837) was the count of Tours and Sens during the reigns of Charlemagne and Louis the Pious, until his disgrace in February 828. He was probably a son of Count Haicho of the House of the Etichonen.

Hugh had many possessions in Alsace, including the Sens. He also held the convent of St-Julien-d'Auxerre. He appeared in 811 as an envoy or ambasciator to Constantinople with Haido, Bishop of Basel, and Aio, Duke of Friuli, to renew the Pax Nicephori. In 821, he allied himself by marriage to the royal family; his daughter Ermengard married Louis' son Lothair. In 824, he took part in an expedition in Brittany and, in 826, he accompanied the Empress Judith to the baptism of Harald Klak in Ingelheim. His other daughter, Adelaide married Conrad I, Count of Auxerre.

In 827, Hugh, along with Matfrid of Orléans, was commissioned by Louis to recruit an army with his son Pepin of Aquitaine and repel the invasion of the Marca Hispanica by the Moslem general Abu Marwan. Hugh and Matfrid delayed until the threat had passed. For this he was given the nickname Timidus or the Timid. Barcelona being the greatest military accomplishment of Louis' career, the Spanish March meant much to him and Hugh and Matfrid found themselves greatly disfavoured at court. They were deposed in February of the next year.

He remained very influential as the father-in-law of Lothair. He joined Matfrid in inciting Lothair to rebellion and had all his lands confiscated in Gaul. He remained highly influential in Italy, where Lothair created him "duke of Locate" (dux de Locate).

Sources

Lexikon des Mittelalters. FMG on the family of Hugh of Tours

Wikipedia:

Hugo von Tours (* um 780; † 20. Oktober 837) war vermutlich ein Sohn des Grafen Haicho aus dem Haus der Etichonen und damit ein Ururenkel des Herzogs Eticho von Elsass; sicher ist, dass er ein Nachkomme Etichos war. Der Zweig der Familie, an dessen Spitze er steht, wird Liutfriden genannt.

Er hatte zunächst vor allem im Elsass Besitz, war dann unter Kaiser Ludwig dem Frommen auch Graf von Tours und vermutlich auch Graf von Sens, und damit im Besitz zweier der wichtigsten Grafschaften des Frankenreichs. Darüber hinaus war er Vogt des Frauenklosters St-Julien-d’Auxerre.

811 war er einer der kaiserlichen Gesandten Karls des Großen in Konstantinopel. 821 heiratete seine Tochter Irmingard Karls Enkel, den späteren Kaiser Lothar I. Seine Bedeutung erschließt sich auch dadurch, dass er 824 im Reichenauer Verbrüderungsbuch als erster Graf aufgeführt wird. Im gleichen Jahr nahm er an einen Feldzug gegen die Bretonen teil. 826 waren er und Graf Matfried von Orléans die Begleiter der Kaiserin Judith bei der Taufe des Dänenkönigs Harald Klak in Ingelheim.

827 führte er das fränkische Entsatzheer auf dem Feldzug gegen die Mauren im Raum Barcelona. Da sein zögerndes Vorgehen (ihm wurde der Beiname „timidus“, der Ängstliche, gegeben) das zu späte Eintreffen dieses Heers mit verschuldete, wurde er 828 auf einem Hoftag in Aachen – ebenso wie Matfried von Orléans – abgesetzt, blieb aber von großem Einfluss in der Umgebung seines Schwiegersohnes Lothar I., den er sogar gegen seinen Vater Ludwig aufgewiegelt haben soll. Nach dem Verlust seiner Güter und Ämter in Gallien trat er, weiterhin in der Gunst Lothars, als einer der wichtigsten fränkischen Adligen in Italien auf, wird sogar nach einem Königsgut, das ihm übereignet wurde, „dux de Locate“ – gemeint ist Locate di Triulzi bei Mailand – genannt.

Hugo und seine Frau Ava († um 840) hatten mindestens fünf Kinder:

Irmingard (* um 805, † 20. März 851) ∞ 821 Lothar I., König von Lotharingien
Adelais (Adelheid) († nach 866) ∞ I Konrad I. Graf im Argen- und Linzgau († 863) (Welfen), ∞ II Robert der Tapfere (X 866) Graf von Paris (Robertiner)
Liutfrid I. (* um 800/805, † 865/866) Graf von Tours, Laienabt von Münster-Granfelden ∞ NN
Bertha (* um 805, † nach 870), ∞ 819 Gerhard II. (* 800, † 878/879) Graf von Paris, Graf (dux) von Vienne (* 800, † 878/879) (Matfriede)
Hugo († vor 25. Januar 835) begraben in San Ambrogio in Mailand Hugo von Tours wurde in der Kirche zu Monza begraben.

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Hugh av Tours

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Hugh eller Hugo (C.780 - 20 oktober 837) var räkna av Tours och Sens under härskar av Karl den store och Ludvig den fromme, Tills hans skam i februari 828. Han var troligen en son till greve Haicho av House of the Etichonen.

Hugh hade många ägodelar i Alsace, Inklusive Sens. Han höll också klostret St-Julien-d'Auxerre. Han medverkade i 811 som ett sändebud eller ambasciator till Konstantinopel med Haido, biskop av Basel, Och Aio, Hertig av Friuli, Att förlänga Pax Nicephori. I 821, allierade han sig genom äktenskapet med den kungliga familjen, hans dotter Ermengard gift Louis son Lothar. I 824 deltog han i en expedition Brittany och i 826, följde han Empress Judith till dop Harald Klak i Ingelheim. Hans andra dotter, Adelaide, gift Konrad I, greve av Auxerre (Död 862).[1] Hon är ibland sägs ha tagit som sin andre make Robert Stark. Hon var död av 886, när Walahfrid Strabo inkluderade hennes gravskrift i en dikt av hans.

I 827, Hugh, tillsammans med Matfrid av Orléans, Fick i uppdrag av Louis att rekrytera en armé med sin son Pippin I av Akvitanien och avvärja invasionen av Marca Hispanica av muslimska allmänna Abu Marwan. Hugh och Matfrid anstå tills hotet var över. För detta fick han smeknamnet Timidus eller Den blyga. Barcelona är den största militära utföra Louis karriär innebar spanska mars mycket för honom och Hugh och Matfrid befann sig kraftigt missgynnas vid hovet. De var avsatt i februari nästa år.

Han förblev mycket tyngd som svärfar av Lothar. Han började Matfrid i anstiftan Lothar till uppror och hade alla hans landområden konfiskerade i Gallien. Han förblev mycket inflytelserika i Italien, Där Lothar skapade honom "hertig av Leta"(DUX de Lokalisera).

Hugh or Hugues (Le Mefiant) d'Alsace (son of Luitfride d'Alsace and Hiltrude d'Alsace) was born Abt. 765 in Upper Alsace, France and died 836. He married Ava de Tours on Abt. 790..

Children of Hugh or Hugues (Le Mefiant) d'Alsace and Ava de Tours are:

+Berthe de Tours, b. Abt. 791, d. November 08, 871

+Hugh de Bourges, b. Abt. 800d. 833

+Luitfride d'Alsace, b. Abt. 793 d. 8652.

+Adela or Adelaide de Tours d'Alsace, b. Abt. 802, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, Centre, France, d. Abt. 866 -------------------- II Hugh or Hugues (Le Mefiant) d'Alsace (b. Abt. 765, d. 836)

Hugh or Hugues (Le Mefiant) d'Alsace2299 was born Abt. 765 in Upper Alsace, France2300, 2301, 2302, 2303, 2304, and died 8362305, 2306. He married Ava de Tours on Abt. 7902306.

Notes for Hugh or Hugues (Le Mefiant) d'Alsace: [Maud.ged]

[IT:Count of Tours.:IT]

More About Hugh or Hugues (Le Mefiant) d'Alsace and Ava de Tours:

Marriage: Abt. 7902306

Children of Hugh or Hugues (Le Mefiant) d'Alsace and Ava de Tours are:

+Berthe de Tours, b. Abt. 7912307, 2308, 2309, d. November 08, 8712310, 2311.

+Luitfride d'Alsace, b. Abt. 7932312, 2313, 2314, d. 8652315, 2316, 2317.

+Ermengarde d'Orleans de Tours, b. Abt. 795, Hesbaye, Liege, Belgium2318, 2319, 2320, 2321, d. March 20, 850/51, ,, Burgundy, France2322, 2323, 2324, 2325.

+Hugh de Bourges, b. Abt. 8002326, 2327, d. 8332328, 2329.

+Adela or Adelaide de Tours d'Alsace, b. Abt. 802, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, Centre, France2330, 2331, 2332, 2333, 2334, 2335, 2336, d. Abt. 8662337, 2338, 2339. -------------------- •Name: Hugues De Tours II 1 2 •Sex: M •Title: Count of Upper Alsace •Birth: 765 in Upper Alsace, France 3 •Death: 837 1 2

He was a trusted official of Charlemagne and Louis the Pious, until his disgrace in February 828. He was an ambassador to Constantinople in 811. In 824, he took part in an expedition in Brittany and, in 826, he accompanied the Empress Judith to the baptism of Harald Klak in Ingelheim. In 827 he was one of the officials in charge of repelling a Muslim invasion led by Abu Marwan. He delayed until the threat was passed, and lost his favor at court. He was deposed in February 828. He rebelled, lost and had his lands in Gaul confiscated. However, he remained influential in Italy, where Lothair created him Duke of Locate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_of_Tours

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Hugh's father was Count of Alsace Hugh (le Mefiant) de Bourges III and his mother was Countess of Tours Ava Eticondes. His paternal grandparents were Count Luitfrid of Upper Alsace II and Countess Hiltrude of Alsace; his maternal grandparents were Comte de Tours Luitfied Enticondes and <Unknown>. He had four brothers and four sisters, named Luitfried, Etienne, Renaud, Stephen, Ermengarde, Aelis, Bertha and Petronilla. He was the oldest of the nine children.

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Alsace, France defunción: 14 June 0844

In Battle número de CD: 0

Padres Padre: Luitfried de Alsace Count of Alsace (AFN: 30DS-D75) madre: Hiltrude (AFN: 30DS-GH5)

Matrimonios (1) cónyuge: Aba de Alsace (AFN: 3099-56C)

Ocultar hijos (4) hijo 1: Ermengarde de Tours (AFN: 309G-0RP) sexo: female nacimiento:

France defunción: 20 March 0851

France hijo 2: Adelaide de Tours (AFN: 3098-XH2) sexo: female defunción: hijo 3: Bertha de Tours (AFN: 30DS-868) sexo: female nacimiento: 0794

Alsace, France defunción:

hijo 4: Hugh de Bourges Count of Bourges (AFN: 30DS-4TH) sexo: male nacimiento: 0802 defunción:

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Hugues II d'Alsace, comte de Tours[1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7] Male Abt 765 - 837

Suffix comte de Tours Born Abt 765 of, Upper Alsace, France Find all individuals with events at this location Gender Male AFN 9HQD-K6 Ecclesiastic 811 [8] Timiolus and Abbott of St. Julien d'Auxere Title 828 [8] Count of Tours then Duke of the area by Mailand Name AKA Hugo [9] Name AKA Hugo [10] Name AKA Hugues [11] Name AKA Hugues "le Coüard" [4] Name AKA Hugues "le Poltron" [4] Name AKA Hugues I count of Tour [12] Name AKA Hugues II Count of of upper Alsace [13] Died 20 Oct 837 [8] Buried of, Monza, Lombardia, Italy Find all individuals with events at this location [8] Notes TITLES: Count of Upper-Alsace. Person ID I12815 Europe: Royal and Noble Houses of Europe Last Modified 8 Apr 2014

Father Luitfrid II, Count of Upper Alsace, b. Abt 740, of, , Alsace-Lorraine, France Find all individuals with events at this location, d. 780 Mother Hiltrude, Countess of Upper Alsace, b. Abt 744, , Alsace, France Find all individuals with events at this location, d. Yes, date unknown Married 764 Family ID F6271 Group Sheet

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