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John Ellis, III

Also Known As: "John Ellis", "Indian Trader of Amelia County"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Nottoway Parish, Flatt Creek, Amelia County, Virginia, Colonial America
Death: August 13, 1766 (57-58)
Rowan County, North Carolina, Colonial America
Immediate Family:

Son of John Ellis, Sr., of Flatt Creek and Joanna Ellis
Husband of Lucy Ellis
Father of Jane Wade; Mary Mattox Giles; Matthew Willis Ellis; Lucy Foster; John Ellis, IV and 6 others
Brother of Mary Jane Ellis and Martha Ann Gilliam

Occupation: Indian trader
Managed by: Erica Howton
Last Updated:

About John Ellis, Jr.,, of Amelia County & Rowan County


Easily Confused:

  • John Ellis (1685-bef.1782) of Henrico Co., Sp. Eliz. Smith
  • John Clarn Ellis (1628-1669) of Maryland
  • John Ellis (1681-1762)of Amelia Co., sp Eliz. unknown
  • John Ellis Junr 1722-1774 of Amelia, later Halifax Co., N.C., Sp. Mary
  • John Ellis Senr abt 1694-aft 1750 of Amelia Co., sp unknown
  • John Ellis Junr 1708-1766 of Amelia Co., VA, later Rowan, NC (this profile)

the four John Ellises of Amelia County

John Ellis living on Little Nottoway River was one of 4 John Ellis's in early Amelia Co. VA between 1734 and 1762. One of the other John Ellis's, referred to as John Ellis Jr. also lived on the Little Nottoway River, while the other two lived on Flatt Creek and Horsepen Creek respectively. How, or IF they are related is undetermined. We need yDNA tests by descendants to see if they're related or not!


Biography

https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/b/r/o/Virginia-Y-Browning/GENE1-0004....

4.JOHN4 ELLIS III (JOHN3, JOHN2, EDWARD1) was born Abt. 1708 in Flat Creek, Amelia Co., VA, and died Bet. 1772 - 1780 in Rowan Co., NC.He married LUCY MAYES Abt. 1729 in Flat Creek, Amelia Co., VA, daughter of WILLIAM MAYES and MARY MATTOX.She was born 1710 in Amelia Co., VA, and died Bef. 1772 in Rowan Co., NC.

More About JOHN ELLIS III:
Occupation: Indian Trader

Children of JOHN ELLIS and LUCY MAYES are:

  • i. MARY MATTOX5 ELLIS, b. Abt. 1730, Flat Creek, Amelia Co., VA; d. 1805, Rowan Co., NC; m. WILLIAM GILES, June 28, 1746, Flat Creek, Amelia Co., VA.
  • More About MARY MATTOX ELLIS:
  • Probate: 1805, Rowan Co., NC
  • Will: January 15, 1800, Rowan Co., NC- Book D, pg. 13
  • ii. JOHN ELLIS IV, b. Abt. 1732, Flat Creek, Amelia Co., VA; d. Aft. 1805, Rowan Co., NC; m. ELIZABETH RAILSBACK, Abt. 1760, Rowan Co., NC.
  • 5. iii. LUCY ELLIS, b. Abt. 1734, Flat Creek, Amelia Co., VA; d. Aft. 1805, Rowan Co., NC.
  • iv. WILLIS ELLIS, b. Abt. 1738, Flat Creek, Amelia Co., VA; d. 1785, Rowan Co., NC; m. FRANCES ANDERSON, Abt. 1761, Rowan Co., NC.
  • 6. v. WILLIAM ELLIS, b. Abt. 1740, Flat Creek, Amelia Co., VA; d. September 1832, Oglethorpe Co., GA.
  • vi. MATTHEW ELLIS, b. 1744, Flat Creek, Amelia Co., VA; d. 1782, Rowan Co., NC.
  • vii. FRANCIS ELLIS, b. 1746, Flat Creek, Amelia Co., VA; d. 1780, Rowan Co., NC.
  • 7. viii. RADFORD ELLIS, b. 1748, Flat Creek, Amelia Co., VA; d. September 01, 1812, Jasper Co., GA.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ellis-10601

John Ellis III, husband of Lucy Mayes and father of the children listed, is said to have been born in Prince George County,about 1710, the son of John Ellis II, known as the Indian Trader, himself, in turn, son of John Ellis I.

HIs daughter ,Mary Mattox Ellis, had a marriage bond signed by her father and soon-to-be husband William GIles 28 June 1746 in Amelia County, Virginia. [1]

Claims of Ellis researcher, David Arthur, are that "Around 1728-1730 John Ellis, Jr. (John Ellis III), marries Lucy Mayes, the daughter of William Mayes. William Mayes’ property was 1200 acres on both sides of Hatchers Run, Prince George County .... "In 1750 we find John Ellis III, and his wife, Lucy, selling 1066 acres of land to John Foster in Amelia Co. [See research notes challenging this statement.] It appears that they had settled in North Carolina and did not intend to return to VA. At this time, they were in North Carolina in the part of Anson County that in 1854 became Rowan County. John Ellis and William Ellis show up on a list of men commanded by Captain Charles King in colonial records of NC. Then, in a reconstructed Tax List of Rowan Co. for 1759, John Ellis, John Ellis, Jr., William Ellis and Willis Ellis appear. Also in 1759 John Ellis, Jr. of Rowan Co. receives from the Earl of Granville a grant of 112 acres on the north side of the Yadkin River above the mouth of Davis’s Creek. There are quite a few land records which involve John Ellis in that area."
Additional information regarding David Arthur's theories of the family of Lucy's husband, John Ellis, III, may be found here: http://www.edavidarthur.net/JohnEllis/JohnEllisFamily.htm

Lucy (Mayes) Ellis died in 1759, in Anson county, (modern day Rowan county, North Carolina. John died in 1765, and the records of his estate are found in Rowan county archives. The five hand written pages are viewable (although difficult to read) on FamilySearch.org. [2]


From http://www.edavidarthur.net/JohnEllis/JohnEllisFamily.htm

John Ellis (I) (born 1648) - my 8th Great-Grandfather – David Arthur - https://edavidarthur.tripod.com
John Ellis (II) (born 1680) "Indian Trader" - my 7th Great-Grandfather – David Arthur
John Ellis (III) (born 1710) "Bear Story" - my 6th Great-Grandfather – David Arthur

Appears that John Ellis (II) (born 1680) know as "Indian Trader" was in Prince George County in early 1700s, then in Amelia/Nottway County VA in 1730s to 1740s and then moved to Rowan/Davidson County NC in mid 1700s. Seems that John Ellis (III) (born 1710) went to NC in 1750s with several of his younger sons including William, Radford and Willis, with William and Radford then going on to GA and Willis remaining in NC. Willis is the Grandfather of NC Governor John Willis Ellis (1820 - 1861).

John Ellis (III) (born 1710) moved to Rowan Co NC. His daughter Jane Ellis married Hampton Wade - my 5th Great-Grandparents – (David Arthur), Jane and Hampton Wade moved to Halifax Co. but seemed to continue to own land in Nottaway/Amelia Co. The deed of slaves below, with the statement “for divers good causes and considerations, me thereunto moving, but especially for and in consideration of the natural love and affection I have and bear unto Hampton Wade of the said Parish and County and Jane his wife” seems to be saying that he is moving (me thereunto moving). Perhaps leaving the area for NC where his father and several of his adult children are later found.


Amelia County, Virginia, Deeds Book 5, Page 57

  • To all who these present come, Greetings:
  • Know ye that I John Ellis of the Parish of Nottoway in the County of Amelia, for divers good causes and considerations, me thereunto moving, but especially for and in consideration of the natural love and affection I have and bear unto Hampton Wade of the said Parish and County and Jane his wife, a daughter of me the said John Ellis, have given, granted and confirmed to Hampton Wade and Jane his wife three slaves.
  • The said slaves and their increase, after the deaths of Hampton and Jane Wade, to be equally divided between William Wade, Robert Wade, Richard Wade, and Betsy Wade, sons and daughter of the said Hampton Wade and Jane Wade.
  • Witness: Isaac Ferguson, Thomas Jeffress. /S/ John Ellis
  • Dated 19 Sep 1753. Recorded 27 Sep 1753

To add to the confusion, there is another John Ellis in Amelia/Nottaway County VA, as best I can determine they are not related but could be descendants of the parents of John Ellis I born 1648.


John Ellis's mark from a 1750 Indenture selling land to John Foster. He identifies himself as "John Ellis Indian Trader of Amelia County" in this document. It is the same mark that is shown on the marriage bond of his daughter, Mary Mattox Giles.

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Source: https://www.wikitree.com/photo/png/Ellis-10601


References

  1. DNA Match-Ancestry.com-Stephen Wesley Kendall - via Wade Line - 7th GGF
  2. https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/LXQM-WF3/john-willis-ellis-ii...
  3. http://www.edavidarthur.net/JohnEllis/JohnEllisFamily.htm
  4. WikiTree contributors, "John Willis Ellis III (abt.1708-1765)," WikiTree: The Free Family Tree, (https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ellis-10601 : accessed 29 September 2024). cites
    1. Marriage Bond - by father JOhn Ellis and William GIles: "Virginia, County Marriage Records, 1771-1989" citing Digital film/folder number: 007736612; Image number: 57 FamilySearch Record: 68PC-V6KV (accessed 15 September 2024) FamilySearch Image: 3Q9M-C914-K42C-7 Mary Mattock Ellis, daughter of John Ellis, to William Giles; bond on 28 Jun 1746 in Virginia.
    2. "North Carolina Estate Files, 1663-1979," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VH6F-9ZQ : 12 March 2018), John Ellis, 1765; citing Rowan, North Carolina, United States, State Archives, Raleigh; FHL microfilm 1,482,265
    3. Land Deed 15 June 1750 John Ellis Indian Trader to John Foster: "Deed Book 3, 1747-1750, Amelia County, Virginia: Amelia. Deed Books 1747–1750" Film number: 008140737 > image 241 of of 283 FamilySearch Image: 3Q9M-CSKW-MS5W-L (accessed 15 September 2024)
    4. May 1750 Lucy Ellis, wife of John, relinquishes her dower right to land of John Foster's Amelia Court Order Book 2, 1746-1751, Amelia County, Virginia: Amelia. Court Records 1746–1751: "Order Book 2, 1746-1751, Amelia County, Virginia: Amelia. Court Records 1746–1751" Film number: 007893731 > image 213 of of 288 FamilySearch Image: 3Q9M-CS4H-C9ZK-3 (accessed 15 September 2024)
    5. 1760 Deed Amelia Co. John Ellis to Joseph Ball: "Deed Book 7, 1759-1762, Amelia County, Virginia: Amelia. Deed Books 1759–1762"Film number: 008141098 > image 40 of of 253FamilySearch Image: 3Q9M-CSKH-Q9FW-P (accessed 10 September 2024)
  5. "Descendants of Edward Ellis" < link >
  6. https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LXQM-WF3
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John Ellis, Jr.,, of Amelia County & Rowan County's Timeline

1708
1708
Nottoway Parish, Flatt Creek, Amelia County, Virginia, Colonial America
1727
1727
Nottoway Parish, Amelia County, Virginia, Colonial America
1730
1730
Amelia County, Virginia Colony, Colonial America
1734
1734
Flat Creek, Amelia, Virginia, United States
1736
1736
Flat Creek, Amelia, Virginia, United States
1738
1738
Flat Creek, Amelia, Virginia, United States
1738
Flat Creek, Amelia, Virginia, USA
1740
1740
Flat Creek, Amelia, Virginia, United States
1746
1746
Flat Creek, Amelia County, Virginia, Colonial America