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John Grey, of Heaton

Also Known As: "Sir John"
Birthdate:
Death: 1267 (41-42)
Broxmouth, Roxburghshire, Scotland
Place of Burial: Broxmouth, Roxburghshire, Scotland
Immediate Family:

Son of Sir Richard de Grey and Lucie de Grey
Husband of Lucy de Mohun
Father of Hugh Grey, Sir Knight; Sir Andrew Grey, Lord of Broxmouth and Henry de Grey, 1st Baron Grey of Codnor
Brother of Isobel de Grey; Agnes FitzThomas and Richard de Grey

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About John Grey, of Heaton

  • Sir John de Grey1,2,3,4
  • M, #15614, d. before 5 January 1272
  • Father Sir Richard de Grey, Governor of the Channel Isles, Seneschal of Gascony & Poitou, Constable of Devises, Dover, & Kenilworth Castles3 b. b 1200, d. 1250
  • Mother Lucia de Humez3
  • Sir John de Grey married Lucy de Mohun, daughter of Sir Reynold II de Mohun, Justice of the Common Pleas, Governor of Saubey Castle and Hawise FitzGeoffrey.2,4 Sir John de Grey was born at Grays Thurrock, Essex, Aylesford & Hoo, Kent, England. He died before 5 January 1272.3
  • Family Lucy de Mohun d. a 19 May 1290
  • Child
    • Sir Henry Grey, 1st Lord Grey of Codnor+2,3 b. bt 1255 - 1258, d. bt 1 Sep 1308 - 18 Sep 1308
  • Citations
  • [S3803] Unknown author, The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. VI, p. 123; Wallop Family, p. 382; OFHS Newsletter, March 1995, p. 10.
  • [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 568.
  • [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 271.
  • [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 101.
  • From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p520.htm#i... ___________________
  • John de Grey1
  • M, #327965, d. 5 January 1271/72
  • Last Edited=29 Dec 2008
  • John de Grey was the son of Richard de Grey and Lucy de Humez.2 He married Lucy de Mohun, daughter of Reynold de Mohun and Hawise Fleming.1 He died on 5 January 1271/72.1
  • Child of John de Grey and Lucy de Mohun
    • Sir Henry de Grey+2 b. c 1256, d. Sep 1308
  • Citations
  • [S37] BP2003 volume 2, page 1666. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37]
  • [S37] BP2003. [S37]
  • From: http://www.thepeerage.com/p32797.htm#i327965 _______________
  • John De GREY (Sir Knight)
  • Died: BEF 5 Jan 1271/1272
  • Father: Richard De GREY (Sir Knight)
  • Mother: Lucy De HUMES
  • Married: Lucy De MOHUN (dau. of Reginald De Mohun and Hawise Fitzgeoffrey) ABT 1249, Somersetshire, England
  • Children:
    • 1. Henry De GREY (1° B. Grey of Codnor)
  • From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/GREY1.htm#John De GREY (Sir Knight)1 _________________
  • LORDS GREY (of CODNOR)
  • JOHN de Grey, son of RICHARD de Grey of Codnor & his wife Lucy de Humez ) .
  • m LUCY de Mohun, daughter of REYNOLD de Mohun of Dunster, Somerset & his [second wife Isabel de Ferrers of the Earls of Derby].
  • John & his wife had children:
    • 1. HENRY de Grey of Codnor, Derbyshire, Grays Thurrock, Essex, and Aylesford and Hoo, Kent (-Sep 1308). He was summoned to Parliament in 1299 whereby he is held to have become Lord Grey (of Codnor). m firstly [ELEANOR, daughter of HUGH de Courtenay & his wife Eleanor Le Despencer] (-before 6 Jun 1301). According to the Complete Peerage, the wife of Henry de Grey was “said to have m 1stly Eleanor daughter of Hugh de Courtenay”[1454]. The same work suggests that “if this is correct” her father was Hugh who married Eleanor le Despencer. However, this does not appear to be an ideal fit from a chronological point of view, assuming that Hugh le Despencer is identified as the Hugh who was killed at the battle of Evesham in 1265. The Complete Peerage records that this Hugh le Despencer married “in or before 1260” Aline Basset, their son Hugh le Despencer being born 1 Mar 1261[1455]. This would fit approximately with the estimated birth date of Hugh de Courtenay, son of Hugh de Courtenay and Eleanor, in [1275]. However, the wife of Henry de Grey would presumably have been born in the early 1260s, assuming that her marriage is correctly estimated to before [1281/82]. If that last date is correct, Eleanor, wife of Henry, would more likely have been born in the previous Courtenay generation. The problem is that a “Hugh de Courtenay” has not yet been identified in that earlier generation. m secondly (before 6 Jun 1301) as her second husband, JOAN, widow of RALPH de Cromwell, daughter of ---. Henry & his first wife had children:
      • a) RICHARD de Grey ([1281/82]-before 10 Mar 1335). Lord Grey (of Codnor). m JOAN FitzPayn, daughter of ROBERT FitzPayn Lord FitzPayn & his wife Isabel de Clifford (-after Mar 1335). as his first wife,
        • i) JOHN de Grey (-14 Dec 1392, bur Aylesford Kent). Lord Grey (of Codnor). m firstly (before 4 Sep 1325) ELEANOR de Courtenay, daughter of HUGH de Courtenay [later Earl of Devon] & his wife Agnes de St John (-before 20 Oct 1330). The Fundationis et Fundatorum Historia of Forde Abbey names (in order) “Elianoram…et Elizabetham” as the two daughters of ”dominus Hugo secundus” & his wife, adding that Eleanor married “Johanni de Gray” but died childless[1456]. m secondly (before 20 Oct 1330) ALICE de Lisle, daughter of WARIN de Lisle of Kingston-Lisle & his wife Alice de Tyes. John & his second wife had children:
          • (1) HENRY de Grey (-after 1371). m JOAN de Cobham, daughter of REGINALD de Cobham Lord Cobham (of Sterborough) & his wife Joan de Berkeley. The will of "Joan de Cobham of Starburghe", dated 13 Aug 1369, chose burial “in the churchyard of St Mary Overhere in Southwark”, bequeathed property to “Henry Grey and Dame Joan his wife and to that Joane my daughter, to Joane daughter to that Joane” and a conditional bequest to “Reginald my son” relating to property “sold...to my husband in the presence of the Lord Berkley my father”[1457]. Henry & his wife had children:
            • (a) RICHARD Grey ([1371]-1 Aug 1418, bur Aylesford). Lord Grey (of Codnor).
            • - see below.
  • From: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3D-K.htm#Joh... ________________
  • Richard de Grey (died 1271) of Codnor, Derbyshire, was a landowner who held many important positions during the reign of Henry III of England,[1] including Warden of the Isles (Channel Islands) 1226-1227, 1229-1230 and 1252-1254, and later both constable of Dover Castle and Warden of the Cinque Ports from 1258 irregularly to 1264.[2]
  • Richard, 1 Dec 1202-8 Sep 1271, was the eldest surviving son of Henry de Grey of Thurrock, an Essex landowner owning the manors of Codnor in Derbyshire and Grimston in Nottinghamshire; and Isolda de Bardolf.
  • In the 6th year of the reign of King Richard I Henry de Grey was granted the manor of Thurrock in Essex, which was confirmed by King John. By 1201 he held the Manor of Codnor in Derbyshire, and in 1216 had been further granted the Manor of Grimston. He married, in about 1185, Isolda, a daughter of Robert Bardolf.
  • Richard de Grey married Lucy, the daughter and heir of John de Humez.
  • His eldest son John, b. about 1225, who died shortly after his father in 5 Jan 1272, married Lucy, the daughter of Sir Reynold de Mohun of Dunster.
  • John's eldest son was Henry de Grey ca. 1255-1 Sep 1308, of Codnor, Derbyshire; Grays Thurrock, Essex; Aylesford; and Hoo, Kent.
  • Henry campaigned in Gascony 1294-1297 and was with Edward Longshanks at the siege of Carlaverock in 1300. Henry campaigned in Scotland as late as 1306.
  • Henry was called to Parliament and was therefore later deemed to have been the 1st Baron Grey of Codnor, but this claim was disallowed on review in 1989. Henry married Eleanor de Redvers, daughter of Hugh de Courtenay, the 1st Earl of Devon. Their daughter Lucia married a son of Roger de Somerie.
  • From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_de_Grey ______________
  • Dictionary of National Biography, 1885-1900, Volume 23
  • Grey, Richard de (fl.1250) by Charles Lethbridge Kingsford
  • GREY, RICHARD de, second Baron Grey of Codnor (fl. 1250), baronial leader, was son of Henry de Grey, first baron Grey of Codnor (living in 1224) by Isolda (d. 1246), niece and coheiress of Robert Bardolf of Grimston, Nottinghamshire. Grey must have been born some time before 1200, since he appears as one of John's supporters in 1216 and received a grant of the lands of John de Humez in Leicestershire, and of Simon de Canci in Lincolnshire (Rot. Claus. 17 Joh.) In 1224 he was present at the defence of Rochelle (Ann. Dunst. in Annales Monastici, iii. 86), and in 1226 was appointed governor of the Channel Islands, of which in 1252 he received a grant in fee farm for a payment of four hundred marks (Pat. Rolls 10 and 36 Hen. III). He was custos of the castle and honour of Devizes in 1228 (ib. 12 Hen. III), sheriff of Northumberland in 1236, and of Essex and Hertford in 1239 (Pipe Roll, 20 and 23 Hen. III). In 1252 he took the cross, together with his brother John (d. 1266) [q. v.] Grey sided with the barons against the king in 1258, and was one of the twenty-four, and also one of the fifteen perpetual councillors (Burton Annals in Ann. Mon. i. 447, 449). He was also appointed custos of Dover Castle and warden of the Cinque ports (ib. i. 453), in which capacity he was able to intercept some of the treasure which the king's Poitevin favourites were endeavouring to send out of the country (Matt. Paris, v. 704, 713). But next year he failed to stop the landing of a papal messenger bringing letters of institution for Aymer or Æthelmær of Winchester [see Aymer], and was in consequence superseded by Hugh Bigot (Matt. Westm., ed. 1570, p.287). In July 1263 he was again appointed custos of Dover for the barons, and in the following December his representative refused to admit the king without his leave. Grey repeated the refusal when Henry returned from France on 15 Feb. 1264. He took part in the siege of Rochester in the following April, and when it was raised returned to Dover. He does not seem to have been present at Lewes, but when Montfort captured Rochester on 27 May, Grey was made custos of that castle. Next year he was with Simon de Montfort the younger at Kenilworth, and was captured by Edward on l Aug. (Cont. Gervase). In 1266 he was again in arms, but eventually accepted the terms of the dictum de Kenilworth, and surrendered at Kenilworth 14 Dec. (Ann. Lond. in Chronicles of Edward I and II, i. 76, Rolls Series). Grey married Lucia, daughter and heiress of John de Humez, by whom he had a son John, third baron Grey of Codnor, who died in 1271 (Inq. post mortem in Calendarium Genealoyicum, i. 157). Richard must therefore have died before that year.
  • [Annales Monastici, Matthew Paris, Continuation of Gervase of Canterbury, all in Rolls Ser.; Dugdale's Baronage, i. 709; Burke's Dormant and Extinct Peerages, p. 248.]
  • From: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Grey,_Richard_de_(fl.1250)_(DNB00) _____________________________

Sir John de Grey b abt 1233, of Codnor, Derbyshire, England, d bef 5 Jan 1271/72. He md Lucy de Mohun abt 1252, daughter of Sir Reynold de Mohun and Hawise Fitz Geoffrey. Child of John de Grey and Lucy de Mohun was:

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  • WRONG JOHN DE GREY, THIS WOULD BE HIS UNCLE
  • Sir John de Grey (died 1266) was an English soldier and High Sheriff.
  • John was the second son of Henry de Grey of Grays Thurrock in Essex. He served as High Sheriff of Bedfordshire and Buckinghamshire in 1238–39 and of High Sheriff of Herefordshire in 1252–53, undertaking military service in Flanders in 1232. He lived at Shirland in Derbyshire, married three times and his son, by his second wife, was Reginald de Grey, 1st Baron Grey de Wilton. He was accordingly an ancestor of many of the noble houses with the surname Grey. He died in March 1266.
  • This is an excerpt from the article Sir John de Grey from the Wikipedia free encyclopedia. A list of authors is available at Wikipedia.
  • From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_John_de_Grey __________________
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John Grey, of Heaton's Timeline

1225
1225
1249
1249
Berwick, Northumberland, England
1253
1253
Broxmouth, Roxburghshire, Scotland
1260
1260
Codnor, Derbyshire, England
1267
1267
Age 42
Broxmouth, Roxburghshire, Scotland
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Broxmouth, Roxburghshire, Scotland (United Kingdom)