John Hatche "the Older"

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Given name has also been reported to be Hatch.

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• The New England historical and genealogical register, Volume 70 By Henry Fitz-Gilbert Waters, New England Historic Genealogical Society
• http://books.google.com/books?id=rAcivEotaG0C&pg=PA257&lpg=PA257&dq...
• https://archive.org/details/newenglandhistor70wate
• https://archive.org/stream/newenglandhistor70wate#page/245/mode/1up
• The Will of JOHN AT HECCHE of Sellyng next Monks Horton [co. Kent], 15 November 1464. .... etc.
• The Will of ELIONER HACCHE of the parish of Sellinge, co. Kent, 1 November 1519. .... etc.
• https://archive.org/stream/newenglandhistor70wate#page/246/mode/1up
• The Will of THOMAS HACHE, the elder of Sellyng besids Horton Monkyn, co. Kent, 12 December 1530. .... etc.
• The Will of JOHN HATCHE of Sellynge besids Horton Monks, co. Kent, 13 April 1535. .... etc.
• https://archive.org/stream/newenglandhistor70wate#page/247/mode/1up
• The Will of THOMAS HACHE of Mersham, co. Kent, 16 January 1556 [1556/7]. .... etc.
• The Will of WILLYAM HATCHE of Mersham, co. Kent, Myllwright, 28 January 1571 [1571/2]. .... etc.
• The Will of STEVEN HATCHE of the parish of Sellinge next Horton, co. Kent, yeoman, 10 December 1606. .... etc.
• https://archive.org/stream/newenglandhistor70wate#page/248/mode/1up
• The Will of THOMAS HATCH of the parish of St. Peters in Canterbury, co. Kent, yeoman, 27 December, 9 James I [1611]. .... etc.
• The nuncupative Will of MARGARET ALLEN ALS HATCH [in the Calendar called "Margaret Allen als Hatch als King of Canterbury"], 20 October 1626. .... etc.
• https://archive.org/stream/newenglandhistor70wate#page/249/mode/1up
• The Will of JOHN HATCHE of Tenterden, co. Kent, yeoman, 23 March 1628 [1628/9]. .... etc.
• The Will of DOROTHIE HATCH of Hollingbourne, co. Kent, widow, 13 August 1638. .... etc.
• https://archive.org/stream/newenglandhistor70wate#page/252/mode/1up
• 1. JOHN AT HECCHE, of Sellinge, in the hundred of Street, co. Kent, the testator of 1464, was born probably about 1415 and died not earlier than 15 Nov. 1464. He married Agnes —— , who was living when his will was made. He was probably a miller. He was undoubtedly descended from
• .... etc.
• https://archive.org/stream/newenglandhistor70wate#page/253/mode/1up
• some of the Atte Hacches found in the hundred of Calehill, in the subsidies of 1327-8 and 1372-3. These subsidies do not name the parishes in which the persons assessed lived; but the hundred of Calehill comprised the parishes of Charing, Westwell, Egerton, Little Chart, and Pluckley, as well as parts of several other parishes. Contemporary with the above John at Hecche of Sellinge were several of the name in Charing, probably his brothers and cousins, who left wills not given in this article. The mention of his lands in Westwell and Charing places his origin in that ancient Atte Hacche family, and he is the first of the name in Sellinge or vicinity of whom record has been found. His will names his wife Agnes and three sons.
• Children :
  • 2. i. THOMAS, b. probably abt. 1442.
  • ii. JOHN, b. probably abt. 1444.
  • iii. WILLIAM, b. probably abt. 1446.
• 2. THOMAS AT HECCHE (John), of Sellinge, co. Kent, was born about 1442, as he was at least twenty-one in 1464, when his father appointed him one of the executors of his will, but was then under twenty-four. No will or administration of his estate has been found. He succeeded to a portion of his father's lands in Sellinge, and doubtless married soon after his father's death, becoming the father of a family of whom only one child is known.
• Child:
  • 3. i. THOMAS, b. probably abt. 1465.
• 3. THOMAS HACHE (Thomas, John), of Sellinge, co. Kent, the testator of 1530, was born probably about 1465. He held the manor of Hodyford, was assessed as "Thomas Hatche the elder" in the hundred of Street, in the subsidy of 1524, and died between 12 Dec. 1530 and 31 Dec. 1534. The name of his wife has not been found, but six children are named in his will in 1530.
• Children:
  • i. WILLIAM, b. abt. 1488; succeeded to the manor of Hodyford and other lands under the will of his father. Child: 1. Agnes, mentioned in her grandfather's will in 1530.
  • 4. ii. JOHN THE ELDER, b. abt. 1490.
  • iii. AGNES.
  • iv. THOMAS, not mentioned in his father's will in 1530, and therefore probably deceased before that year. His existence is inferred from the fact that his supposed father, Thomas Hache, is called "Thomas Hatche the elder" in the subsidy of 1524.
  • 5. v. JOHN THE YOUNGER, b. probably abt. 1495.
  • vi. MARGARET.
  • vii. ALICE.
• 4. JOHN HACHE THE ELDER (Thomas, Thomas, John), born probably about 1490, died before 1 Nov. 1519. He married ELEANOR —— , the testatrix of 1519, who died between 1 Nov. and 12 Dec. 1519, having named two children in her will.
• Children :
  • 6. i. THOMAS, b. probably abt. 1513.
  • ii. AGNES, b. probably abt. 1515; living in 1530.
• 5. JOHN HATCHE THE YOUNGER (Thomas, Thomas, John), of Sellinge, co. Kent, the testator of 1535, born probably about 1495, died between 13 Apr. 1535 and 26 Apr. 1536. His wife, whose name is unknown, is mentioned in his will. By the will of his father, proved in 1534, he succeeded to lands and tenements in Sellinge, including a "new house," which in the following year he devised to his three sons. His five eldest children are named in the will of his father.
• https://archive.org/stream/newenglandhistor70wate#page/254/mode/1up
• Children:
  • i. JOHANE, b. probably abt. 1521.
  • ii. AGNES, b. probably abt. 1523.
  • 7. iii. THOMAS, b. probably abt. 1525.
  • iv. ALICE, b. probably abt. 1527.
  • v. JOHN, b. probably abt. 1529; perhaps the John Hatche of Tenterden, co. Kent, whose wife Agnes was bur. there 26 Jan. 1588/9.
  • vi. STEPHEN, the testator of 1606, b. probably abt. 1532; d. s.p. between 10 Dec. 1606 and 9 Mar. 1607/8; m. by licence of 5 Dec. 1603, perhaps as his second wife, ELIZABETH GOLDSMITH of Maidstone, co. Kent. dau. of John and Ann. She m. (2) by licence of 11 Aug. 1608 Samuel Pady of Maidstone, gentleman. Stephen Hatche is mentioned in his father's will of 1535, but not in his grandfather's will of 1530. He passed his life in his ancestral parish of Sellinge, co. Kent. In 1592 he was the defendant in a suit in the Court of Requests. Since he had no issue, he devised his lands to the sons of his brother Thomas (7) .
• 6. THOMAS HACHE (John the Elder, Thomas, Thomas, John), of Sellinge and Mersham, co. Kent, millwright, the testator of 1556/7, born probably about 1513, died between 16 Jan. 1556/7 and 16 Feb. 1557/8. He is named in the will of his uncle, John Hatche the Younger, in 1535. He married MARGARET —— , who survived him, together with two sons, who are named in his will.
• Children:
  • 8. i. WILLIAM, b. probably abt. 1537.
  • ii. JOHN.
• .... etc. ____________________

Nancy R. Purchase points out: that according to the following source, John Hatch "The Younger" b. about 1495 died in 1535/36 in Sellynge, Kent, England and that he couldn't have died before the birth of his son to whom he is connected. This appears to be supported by the date of his Will (seebelow)>

Massachusetts and Maine Families in the Ancestry of Walter Goodwin Davis (1885-1996): A reprinting (Alphabetical by Surname), of the Sixteen Multi- Ancestor Compendia (Plus Thomas Haley...), Walter Goodwin Davis, Vol. II Gen. Pub. Co. Inc., Balti., 1996, p.220-231 HATCH (Ancestry Joseph Neal). Reproduced on Bronderbund Software Family Archive CD #194 (Mass. & Maine Genealogies 1650's-1930's). (THIS WILL IS FOR JOHN (THE YOUNGER) BROTHER OF JOHN (THE OLDER) HATCHE The Will of John HATCHE of Sellynge besids Horton Monks, co. Kent, 13 April 1535. To be buried in the churchyard of Sellynge. I give at my foref are [i.e., forthfare] for dirge and in bread and drink for poor people 10s. At my month s mind in like maimer 6s. 8d., and at my year s mind in like manner 13s. 4d. For masses and prayers in said church for three years 13s. 4d. To the high altar there 18d. To the Trinity light 8d. To the Trinity light and the torch light 12d. apiece. To every godchild 12d. To every of my children two ewes. To my wife two kine, two hogs, six ewes, and half my household stuff. The residue of my goods to be sold to pay my debts and legacies by my executors, my wife and Thomas Marcball, to whom I give 6s. 5d. apiece. To John Marchall 5s. 4d. to help my wife with the writings. Witnesses: Thomas Dyhiott the younger, Robert Cavell, and Richard Hempsted. My last will regarding my lands. A piece of land called Mewlyng and my mill beside llythe to be sold, and the money, and also £9. 20d. which Thomas Dylnott owes me, to be used to pay my debts and legacies. Hody.. forth mill and half the meadow to be put to farm and the money used for the same purpose. My sons Thomas, John, and Stephen to enter into my new house and lands at their ages of twenty years. My wife to have the other half of the meadow by the names of Lytle Somerles, greate Somerles, and Rayfelde until my children be twenty years of age, giving to each his share as he attains that age. To her also for life the house and lands at Somerffeld, with reversion at her death to my children. If all my sons die under age, reversion to my daughters, the lands being equally divided. To each daughter 40s. at marriage. If all my children die, the money to be