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John Lyon

Birthplace: Courtastaumo, Forfarshire, Scotland
Death: April 01, 1497 (65-66)
Glamis, Forfarshire, Scotland
Place of Burial: Glamis, Angus, Scotland, United Kingdom
Immediate Family:

Son of Patrick Lyon, 1st Lord Glamis and Isabel Ogilvy of Linthrathen
Husband of Elizabeth Scrymgeour
Father of Violetta Lyon of Glamis; John Lyon, 4th Lord Glamis; Henry Lyon; Margaret Lyon; John Robert Lambe and 11 others
Brother of Alexander Lyon, 2nd Lord Glamis; Janet Lyon; Elizabeth Lyon; Patrick Lyon and William Lyon, 1st of Easter Ogil

Occupation: 3rd Lord Glamis, Lord Auditor of Parliament, Lord of the Council, Justice, Ambassador
Managed by: Harold Allen Buell, Jr.
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About John Lyon, 3rd Lord Glamis

3rd Lord Glamis

Lord Auditor of Parliament, Lord of the Council, Justice, Ambassador

ID: I51177 Name: John Lyon 3rd Lord Glamis Surname: Lyon Given Name: John Suffix: 3rd Lord Glamis Sex: M Birth: ABT 1435 in Glamis, Angus, Scotland Death: 1 Apr 1497 in Glamis, Angus, Scotland Burial: Glamis, Angus, Scotland _UID: 6EC98C03ACD84840B1081B9DE3B1B911A173 Birth: 1431 in Courtastamo, Lanarkshire, England Note: JOHN (LYON), LORD GLAMIS [SCT], next brother and heir. A Lord Auditor of Parliament, and a Lord of Council, 1484-94; a “Great Justice” south of Forth, 1487/8. He sided with James III, but after that King had been slain at Sauchieburn, secured the confidence of his successor. P.C. [SCT] 4 July 1489; joint justiciar of Scotland, 1489-94; Ambassador to England, 1491, and in the same year to France, Castile, Leon, &c. He largely increased his landed estates. He married, probably in or before 1450, Elizabeth, daughter of Sir John SCRIMGEOUR, of Dudhope, Constable of Dundee. She died before 20 October 1492. He died at Glamis, 1 April 1497, and was buried there. [Complete Peerage V:428]


John, third Lord Glamis, was in no measure inferior in point of energy and ability to his great ancestor the Chamberlain. In 1464, as Mr John Lyon of Courtastoune, he received payment from the Crown for certain expenditure on the castles of Kildrummy and Kindrocht, of which his father Patrick, first Lord Glamis, had been Keeper, and he made material additions to the resources of the family. In 1479 he purchsed from George Bell of the Holmys, Inchture, in the sheriffdom of Perth. From Dorothea Tulloch, one of the ladies of Bonyngtoun, and Walter Wode, her husband, he had a charter, on 4 April 1479, of one-half of the Loch Mills of Forfar. From David, Lord Lindsay of the Byres, he had a grant of the lands of Puresk, in Kinghorne, the precept for infefting him being dated 12 November 1488. One-fourth part of the barony of Baky, in the sheriffdom of Forfar, was acquired on the resignation of Henry Douglas 14 August 1487; a second fourth part was acquired from Jonet Fenton of Baky 4 July 1489. On 5 September 1491 he acquired the fourth part of LIggle Buttirgask, Collace, and Strathfentoun, co Perth, from the heirs of the above Jonet Fentoun.

On 14 October 1472 he was made Coroner within the bounds of Forfar and Kincardine. In 1483-84 he appears on the bench with the Lords Auditors and also with the Lords of Council in deciding civil cases, and continued to act in these capacities for ten years. On 11 January 1487 King James III nominated him one of the ‘Great Justices’ on the south side of the Forth. One great opportunity of displaying his qualities as a statesman was vouchsafed to him. After the death of King James III at Sauchieburn a Parliament met at Edinburgh on 16 October 1488, to secure a general pacifiaction, when the events which led to the late conflict were fully debated. The assembly, after listening to an explanation by Lord Glamis, of the causes that led ‘to the slauchteris committed and done in the field of Striulin quhar ouir souerane lordis fader happinit to be slane,’ unanimously resolved that the wisest thing now to do was to ‘agree that the King that now is is our true souerane,’

The attitude maintained by Lord Glamis throughout so grave a crisis secured him the respect and confidence of both sides; he was peculiarly fortunate in obtaining the friendship of the young King, and during the early years of the new reign his attendance at court was continuous. In the Parliament in which he made so happy a use of his forensic talents, he was, with the Lord Gray and the Master of Crawford, appointed a Lord Justice ‘for Angus, Heiland and Lawland, and to sit with the justices of the regalities.’ On 15 February 1489 he was appointed on of the Crown Auditors, and on the 26 of June following a member of the King’s Privy Council. In 1490, when he was appointed a Commissioner under the Privy Seal to let the Crown lands, the King designs him ‘our Justice;’ the ordinary title being simply ‘Justiciar.’ In 1491 he was one of the Lords appointed to attend the young King at Berwick to conclude, if possible, a truce with England, and in the same year he was Ambassador from Scotland to the Courts of France, Castile, Leon, Arragon and Sicily. In 1495 his name occurs as one of the two Justiciars on the south side of the Forth.

On 20 October 1491 King James IV, at the instance of Lord Glamis, erected the twon of Glammys, in the sheriffdom of Forfar, into a free burgh of barony for ever, with power to elect bailies, and to hold a cross and market on Friday in each week, and a public fair every year on the feast day of St Fergus (17 November), and for the four days following, with right to impose toils. On 12 October 1487 Lord Glamis granted a mortification of an annualrent of twelve merks and certain portions of the lands of Glamis to the altar of St Thomas the Martyr in the parish church there, for the celebration of divine service for the souls of his elder brother Alexander and Agnes Creichtroun his wife.

The last reference observed to John, third Lord Glamis, is in the Treasurer’s accounts for 1496. He died 1 April 1497, and was buried at Glamis. He married Elizabeth, said to have been daughter of John Scrymgeour of Dudhope, Constable of Dundee. She died prior to 20 October 1492, on which date her husband, with consent of John, his eldest son, mortified to the chapel of the Holy Trinity, in the Parish Church of Glamis, two acres and a toft of land in the barony of Glamis for the benefit of her soul. [The Scots Peerage VIII:274-276]

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Father: Patrick Lyon 1st Lord Glamis b: ABT 1412 in Glamis, Angus, Scotland Mother: Isobel Ogilvy

Marriage 1 Elizabeth Scrymgeour b: ABT 1427 in Dudhope Castle, Dundee, Angus, Scotland

Married: BEF 1450


Violetta Lyon b: ABT 1455 in Glamis, Angus, Scotland John Lyon 4th Lord Glamis b: ABT 1457 in Glamis, Angus, Scotland William Lyon b: ABT 1462 in Glamis, Angus, Scotland George Lyon b: ABT 1465 in Glamis, Angus, Scotland Christian Lyon b: 1482 in Glamis,Angus Janet Lyon Agnes Lyon David Lyon of Baky & Cossins b: 1495 Margaret Lyon Mariota Lyon Elizabeth Lyon


Repository: Title: The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant Author: Editor: G.E. Cokayne, with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden Publication: St. Catherine Press, 29 Great Queen St, Kingsway, W.C. 1959 Page: V:428 Repository: Title: The Scots Peerage: Founded on Wood’s Edition of Sir Robert Douglas’s Peerage of Scotland Author: Sir James Balfour Paul Lord Lyon King Of Arms Publication: Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1914 Page: IV:53; V:523, VIII:274-276 Title: The Lyons of Cossins and Wester Ogil, Cadets of Glamis Author: Andrew Ross Publication: 1901 Page: 19-22 Title: The Peerage of Scotland Author: Edward Kimber, John Almon Publication: London, 1767 Title: A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain and Ireland Author: Sir Bernard Burke Publication: 1886

On February 15, 1489 he was appointed one of the Crown Auditors and on the 26th of June became a member of the King James IV Council.

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John Lyon, 3rd Lord Glamis's Timeline

Courtastaumo, Forfarshire, Scotland
Glamis, Forfarshire (Present Angus), Scotland, (Present UK)
Glamis, Angus, Scotland
Scotland, United Kingdom
Greater London, UK
Trimely, Suffolk, England
Forfarshire, Scotland (United Kingdom)
Glamis Castle, Angus, Scotland, United Kingdom