John Vining, of Weymouth

John Vining

• Gender Male
• Birth: before 17 Apr 1636 Wincanton, Somerset, England
• Marriage 11 May 1657 Weymouth, Norfolk, Massachusetts to Margaret Reed
• Marriage 22 Jan 1659 Weymouth, Norfolk, Massachusetts, United States to Mary Reed
• Death: Feb 1685 Weymouth, Norfolk, Massachusetts

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Biography

John Vining was born in Wincanton, Somerset, England and came to Weymouth, Massachusetts on "Mr. Stratton's ship" in 1652 at the age of 16 and "amassed a fortune there". Married his first wife Margaret Reade 5/11/1657. She died 7/6/1659. He then married his second wife Mary Reed 1/22/1660.

From http://www.stupakgen.net/Genealogy/Beahm/03840_ving.htm (dead link)

John’s parents are usually given as Robert Vining and Mary, of Wincanton England, owner of the White Horse Inn. I have not seen any old references making this connection -- everyone seems to derive this fact from the 1980 Barnes book. Savage calls him simply John of Weymouth (Mass), and makes no connection to Wincanton England. There would be no problem here, except that the proprietorship of the White Horse Inn passed from Robert to John Vining. Our John came to America in 1652, but the White Horse Inn was still being operated by John Vining after this date, making the connection of our John as a son of Robert rather questionable {wa}. On the other hand, just because the inn was taken over by a John Vining does not necessarily imply that this John is the son of Robert either -- the inn could have been sold to a brother or nephew. Robert Vining’s son John was born in 1636. It is unlikely that he would have taken over the inn before age 16. The best supporting evidence I have found is a statement that John son of Robert Vining, baptised 17 Apr 1636 in Wincanton, is among several emigrants who went to New England about 1651 {f}. So until some other evidence to the contrary is found, we are assuming that the assignment of John as a child of Robert and Mary is correct.

Family

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Vining-189#Immigrated

John was married first in Weymouth, Suffolk (now Norfolk) County, Massachusetts Bay Colony, on 11 May 1657 to Margaret Reed, the daughter of William Reed and Avis Chapman.[5]The Weymouth town records that refer to this marriage are based on the contemporary Suffolk County annual returns of vital records. Weymouth's town vital records aren't extant from the 1650s. The county record says "John Vineing and Marcye daughter of William Read were married by Capt. Torrey." Above "Marcey" in brackets, written later, is "Marget," surely referring to the death record that calls her that, and accords with William and Avis's daughter Margaret being baptized in 1636. The original compiler of the county returns may have misread what was sent to him from the Weymouth town clerk, or the mistake was when the county records were transcribed in 1856. The original manuscript of the county records, if they still exist, would help solve this mystery. She died on 6 July (not August) 1659.[6]

John married secondly in Weymouth on the 22 January 1659/60 to Mary Reed,[7] the daughter of Philip Reed.

John and his 2nd wife, Mary, had "ten or more children," according to Torrey.[8]

1. John b 15 April 1662 Weymouth
2. Mary b 18 June 1664
3. Thomas 30 Oct 1667
4. Samuel 2 Feb 1669
5. Jane 7 July 1672
6. Sarah c. 1675
7. Hannah living 18 Jan 1685
8. George b c. 1679
9. Margaret b 19 mar 1682
10. Benjamin b 22 July 1684

On March 6, 1662, Jeremiah Clothier was bound to John Vining (as an indentured servant).[9]

Death and Legacy

John died in 1685[/6?] at Weymouth, Suffolk (later Norfolk) County, Massachusetts. One of the overseers of his will was his kinsman Joseph (Vining) Dyer

Notes

Had five acres of land granted to him by the selectmen of Weymouth, 14 Dec. 1663, in the First Division, and fifteen acres in the Second Division. (Weymouth Land Grants, 282, 283) He or his son of the same name was made a freeman of the Massachusetts Bay Colony, 23 May, 1666. There is a statement in the Register, 8:162, that he came in 1652. Hilliard Veren, clerk of court at Salem certified under oath that he understood that John Vining from [Wincanton in Somersetshire] "came abord of Mr. Stratton's ship" with others, sworn to 27 June, 1682. (Essex Deeds, B.6, p. 168.) He died at Weymouth, Feb. 1685. He married (1) at Weymouth, 11 May, 1657, Margaret Read, daughter of William and Avis Read, baptized at Long Sutton, Somersetshire, 20 Jan. 1635-36; she died at Weymouth, 6 July, 1659. He married (2) at Weymouth, 22 Jan. 1659-60, Mary Reed, daughter of Philip and Mary Reed of Weymouth. John Vining was one of the appraisers of the estate of Margaret Snooke of Weymouth, widow of James Snooke, 9 May, 1660. (Register, 9:228.) She died at Weymouth, 2 Sept. 1717.

"Being weak in body" he made his will 18 Jan. 1685, proved 17 Feb. 1685, in which he mentions his eldest son John to have the new house which I have lately built, his wife Mary, son George under 21, son Samuel likewise under 21, four daughters, Jane, Sarah, Hannah, and Margaret, to each £15 at the age of 20, youngest son Benjamin, wife executrix. Overseers, my friend Capt. John Holbrook and my kinsman Joseph Dyer. Witnesses: Deliverance Porter and Joseph Dyer. (Suffolk Probate Records, 6:516.) Inventory, taken 8 Feb. 1685, valued at £468 19s. (Ibid. 9:259.) John Vining, son of Robert Vining, was baptized at Wincanton, Somersetshire, 17 Apr. 1636. (Register, 66:188.)

https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:John_Vining_%284%29

John Vining
b.17 Apr 1636 Wincanton, Somerset, England
d.Feb 1685 Weymouth, Norfolk, Massachusetts, United States

Family tree▼

Parents and Siblings

F. Robert Vining
1610 - 1672

John Vining
1636 - 1685

Spouse and Children

H. John Vining
1636 - 1685

W. Margaret Reed
1635/36 - 1659
m. 11 May 1657

Spouse and Children

H. John Vining
1636 - 1685

W. Mary Reed
- 1717
m. 22 Jan 1659

John Vining
1662 - 1737

Mary Vining
1664 - Bef 1685

Thomas Vining
1667 - Bef 1685

Samuel Vining
1670 - Bef 1769

Jane Vining
1672 - Bef 1762

Sarah Vining
1675 - 1713

Hannah Vining
Abt 1677 - Aft 1685

George Vining
Abt 1679 - 1723

Margaret Vining
1682 -

Capt. Benjamin Vining
1684 - 1735

References

1. https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:John_Vining_%284%29
2. History of Weymouth, Massachusetts. Weymouth, Mass.. Weymouth Historical Society, under direction of the town. 1923. 705-706.
3. http://capecodgenes.com/web%20cards/ps67/ps67_215.html
4. WikiTree contributors, "John Vining (bef.1636-abt.1685)," WikiTree: The Free Family Tree, (https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Vining-189 : accessed 20 January 2025). cites
   1. "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975", database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J7W3-Q49 : 4 February 2023), John Vining, 1636.
   2. Wincanton, Somerset, England, parish register, Findmypast image database online, "Johannes fil Roberti Vinning" $ [1].
   3. Anderson, Robert Charles, Edward Poole Great Migration 1634-1635, M-P. Pgs 481, 496 (Online database accessed February 8, 2015. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2010.) < AmericanAncestors > John Vininge of Weymouth deposed about Benjamin Poole.
   4. Vining, Barnes, Dorothea, The Vining Family. (Pages13-14) Stratford, Ont.: Beacon Herald Fine Printing Division, 1906-. accessed February 8, 2015
   5. "Massachusetts, U.S., Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988," Ancestry.com database online (Provo, UT: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011) image database of Suffolk Co., MA, vital records returns, $ [2].
   6. "Massachusetts, U.S., Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988," Suffolk Co. returns $ [3]. "Corrections and Additions to Savage's Genealogical Dictionary," New England Historical and Genealogical Register, vol. 46 (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1847), 188 [4] erroneously says the month was August. The 1856 transcript of these records appears to be the source used for references to them, and it says she died in the 5th month, meaning July.
   7. "Massachusetts, U.S., Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988," Suffolk Co., MA, returns, $ [5], "22nd of the 11th month 1659".
   8. Reed, Alanson H., Robert and Mary Vining of Wincanton, Somerset, England The Reade Record No. 1-16 Boston: Reade Society for Genealogical Research, 1910, 1914 (No. 3 1910, Page 21) accessed February 8, 2015
   9. Servants to Foreign Plantations The New England Historical and Genealogical Register. (Vol 93, Pg 383) Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1847-. (Online database accessed February 8, 2015: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2001-2013.)
   10. Reed, Jacob Whitmore, The Reed Family in Europe & America. (Pg 310) Boston: 1861, Archive.org accessed February 8, 2015 (Note: called "worthless" by Robert Charles Anderson)
   11. http://pubshistory.com/Somerset/Wincanton/WhiteHorseHotel.shtml
   12. Vital Records of Weymouth, Massachusetts, to the Year 1850 (NEHGS, Boston, Mass., 1910) Vol. 2, Pages 159, 160.
5. Wincanton Window "The White Horse Has Closed – Owner Declared Bankrupt" < link >