John "the Middle" Warren

John Warren

• Birth: Aug 1 1555 - Nayland, Suffolk, England
• Death: Nov 4 1613 - Nayland, Suffolk, England
• Parents: John Warren (1525-1576) & his unknown 1st wife

John 'the myddle' or "the younger" Warren was a cardmaker of Nayland, Suffolk, England.( A card was a metal comb or wire brush used for combing flax or wool.) Nayland was a rich commercial center of the wool industry. He was taxed sixteen pence there on lands in the subsidy for 8 James I., 1611. His Will was dated March 27, 1613, and proved November 4, 1613. He bequeathed to wife and children, and twenty shillings to poor people of Nayland.

He married

• first, Elizabeth Scarlet on October 4, 1584 at Nayland. Elizabeth, the daughter of John Scarlett and Emma (____), was baptized in Nayland on August 30, 1561. She was buried there March 27, 1603/4.
• John married secondly, Rose (____), who was buried August 11, 1610, and
• thirdly, Rose Riddlesdale on April 23, 1611. She survived him.

His 10 children were by his first wife, Elizabeth Scarlett, as follows:

• 1. John - bap. Aug. 1, 1585, Nayland, Suffolk, England; d. Dec. 13, 1667, Watertown, MA.
• 2. Daniel - bap. Nov. 13, 1586, Nayland, Suffolk; bur. Feb. 13, 1596/7, Nayland, Suffolk.
• 3. Isaac - bap. Jan. 28, 1587/8, Nayland, Suffolk. Living in 1613.
• 4. Nathaniel - bap. Sep. 7, 1589, Nayland, Suffolk; bur. Jan. 17, 1624/5, Nayland, Suffolk. Married Sep. 21, 1618, Nayland, Suffolk, Mary GONNE. Children: Nathaniel; Mary; and Thomas.
• 5. Amos - bap. Mar. 14, 1590/1, Nayland, Suffolk. Living in 1613.
• 6. Elizabeth - b. about 1592/3, Nayland, Suffolk. Living in 1613.
• 7. Joshua -bap. Apr. 2, 1594, Nayland, Suffolk. Living in 1613.
• 8. Joseph - bap. Dec. 19, 1596, Nayland, Suffolk; d. Jul. 22, 1596<sic>, Nayland, Suffolk.
• 9. Mary - bap. Mar. 22, 1598/99, Nayland, Suffolk. Living in 1613.
• 10. Thomas - bap. Feb. 22, 1600/1, Nayland, Suffolk. Married Jan. 15, 1638/9, Nayland, Suffolk, Mary RANCKE. Child: Samuel.

Will

The Will of John Waren of Nayland in the County of Suffolk, cardmaker, 27 March 1613. To be buried in the parish churchyard of Nayland. To wife Rose £20, the household goods and plate she brought with her, my tenement where William Bawlden dwells, during her life, and during her widowhood the parlor and chamber in my now dwelling house. To son John and his lawful issue my mansion house where I now dwell, with the barn, stable and garden lying in Fen Street, excepting the aforesaid two rooms. To daughter Mary and her lawful issue, after the decease of my wife, my said tenement in Fen Street where William Baulden dwells, and in default of such issue to my son John, he to pay 40s. apiece to all my children then living. To sons Isaac, Nathaniel, Amos, and daughter Elizabeth, £10 apiece. To sons Joshua and Thomas £10 each at twenty-one. My plate to be equally divided between my wife and son John, and my household goods to be equally divided among my wife and all my children. To the poor people if Nayland 20s. All the residue of my goods unbequeathed I give to my son John, whom I make my executor. [Signed] John Warrene. Witnesses : William Foorth, John Walter, and Edward Collinges. Proved November 4, 1613 by John Warren, son of the testator and the executor named in the will.

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From http://bigelowsociety.com/rod/warren2.htm

John "the middle" WARRENE - b. about 1552, Nayland, Suffolk; England; died 4 Nov 1613, Nayland, Suffolk, Eng. His will (dated Mar. 27, 1613; proved Nov. 4, 1613 at Nayland, Suffolk) names his wife Rose, and all his surviving children. Son of John WARREN. John "the middle", a cardmaker by trade, married (1) Oct. 4, 1584 Elizabeth SCARLETT. He married (2) about 1605 Rose (bur. Aug. 11, 1610, Nayland), and m (3) Apr. 23, 1611 at Nayland, Rose BRAND, the widow of Richard RIDDLESDALE of Boxford, Suffolk, son of Henry RIDDLESDALE. Rose (BRAND) RIDDLESDALE WARREN married third Nov. 20, 1617, Boxford, Suffolk, Richard GRYMES.

The history of the church in Nayland takes us back over at least six centuries. There is a document signed at Nayland in 1303 in which Edward I proclaims the independence of his "King's Free-Chapel of Nayland" from any jurisdiction by the Bishop of Norwich. In 1333 Nayland was a chapel of ease to Stoke-by-Nayland, but it was not until the end of the 14th century that the flourishing wool and cloth trades brought importance and prosperity. It was around 1400 that the present church was built. During the 14th and 15th centuries there are many records of Nayland clothiers giving money and property to the church. Upheaval was created at the time of Henry VIII. The churchwardens in 1548, hearing that ecclesiastical visitation was to take place with the objective of removing "Popish" images and plate from the churches, converted the goods into money investing it in property. The Act of Uniformity under Elizabeth I appointed Commissioners for, "reforming and repressing all religious heresies and schisms". The sum of two shillings was paid for pulling down the rood loft and a further shilling for destroying the altar.

During the Civil War (1642-1658) St James's Church fell into the hands of the Parliamentarians and a record of 1643 states,

"Nayland Suffolk: We broke down 30 superstitious pictures [this probably included stained glass] and gave orders for taking down a cross from the steeple."

During this period engraved brasses were torn from gravestones, the indentations in the stone work can be clearly seen. These were difficult times but gradually, towards the beginning of the 18th century the importance of the "religious question" subsided.

..... John 'the myddle' Warren was a cardmaker of Nayland, Suffolk, England. A card was a metal comb or wire brush used for combing flax or wool. He was taxed sixteen pence there on lands in the subsidy for 8 James I., 1611. His Will was dated March 27, 1613, and proved November 4, 1613. He bequeathed to wife and children, and twenty shillings to poor people of Nayland.[1B]

See Mark Scott's page on his Nayland ancestors. He is most interested in other familes from Nayland.
(TEXT OF THE WILL OF JOHN WARREN)

The Will of John Waren of Nayland in the County of Suffolk, cardmaker, 27 Mar. 1613. To be buried in the parish churchyard of Nayland. To wife Rose L20, the household goods and plate she brought with her, my tenement where William Bawlden dwells, during her life, and during her widowhood the parlor and chamber in my now dwelling house. To son John and his lawful issue my mansion house where I now dwell, with the barn, stable and garden lying in Fen Street, excepting the aforesaid two rooms. To daughter Mary and her lawful issue, after the decease of my wife, my said tenement in Fen Street where William Baulden dwells, and in default of such issue to my son John, he to pay 40s. apiece to all my children then living. To sons Isaac, Nathaniel, Amos, and daughter Elizabeth, L10 apiece. To sons Joshua and Thomas L10 each at twenty-one. My plate to be equally divided between my wife and son John, and my household goods to be equally divided among my wife and all my children. To the poor people if Nayland 20s. All the residue of my goods unbequeathed I give to my son John, whom I make my executor. [Signed] John Warrene. Witnesses : William Foorth, John Walter, and Edward Collinges. Proved 4 Nov. 1613 by John Warren, son of the testor and the executor named in the will (P.C.C.,Capell,98.)[2B]

5. Elizabeth Scarlett b. abt 1561, Baptized: 30 Aug 1561, Nayland, Suffolk, England,{7} d. abt 1603, buried: 27 Mar 1602/03, Nayland, Suffolk, England.{5}. Daughter of John SCARLETT and Emma.

Sources:

• [1] Genealogies and History of Watertown, by Henry Bond
• [2] Worcester County History
• [3] American Ancestry, Volume VII, 1982
• [4] Colonial Families of the United States of America, Volume VI
• [5] New England Families,Volume IV,1914,by William Richard Cutter
• [6] Watertown Records,1894 (Land, Grants, and Possessions),Volume 1
• [7] Middlesex County Probate (First Series Docket 23862),Volume 3
• [8] Adair GEDCOM (ADAIR.GED),23 SEP 1994,by Matthew Adair,InterNet
• [9] The Winthrop Fleet of 1630,by Charles Edward Banks Michael Roman: Email: mj_roman@ix.netcom.com
• Doug Olson :Email: DOlson@aol.com
• Stephen M. Lawson: Email: lawson@tscnet.com

Also:

• [1B] New England Families,Volume IV,1914,by William Richard Cutter, p.1975
• [2B] The New England Historic Genealogical Register,1910,p.349

The Warren-Scarlett ancestry in England is primarily based on the material presented in The Ancestry of Eva Belle Kempton 1878-1908: Part I The Ancestry of Warren Francis Kempton 1817-1879, by Dean Crawford Smith and edited by Melinde Lutz Sanborn (Boston, 1996), pages 462-474. This work contains much additional supporting material, and additional details on family members.

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Rod Bigelow (Roger Jon12 BIGELOW)

8 Prospect Circle Massena, N.Y. 13662

Links

• http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~sam/warwills2.html

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• Updated from MyHeritage Family Trees via son Joseph Warren by SmartCopy: Jan 5 2015, 22:01:18 UTC

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Source: https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=130889120

"John Warren, son of John Warren and his second wife, was born about 1555 in England. His father had a son with his first wife, who had died soon after the first child’s birth. That son was also named John, which was a common practice at the time, if the sons had different mothers. The sons were then called “the elder” and “the younger” to differentiate them. They are referred as such in their father’s will. The younger John was a cardmaker at Nayland, Suffolk and was taxed there in 1611. Nayland was the center of the weaving/clothing industry, and a card was a metal comb or wire brush used for combing flax or wool. On October 4, 1584 at Nayland, he married Elizabeth Scarlet, who was baptised Aug. 30, 1561 at Nayland, daughter of John Scarlet. She was the mother of all his children, and died early in 1603. His second wife was named Rose, she was buried on Aug. 11, 1610. He married his third wife, Rose Riddlesdale, on Apr. 23, 1611. His will was dated Mar. 27, 1613, and proved on Nov. 4. He bequeathed to his wife and children, and to the poor people of Nayland. He was surely buried in St James’ churchyard in Nayland as he requested in his will."

Family links:

Parents:

 John Warren (1525 - 1576)

Spouse:

 Elizabeth Scarlett Warren (1561 - 1603)

Children:

 John Warren (1585 - 1667)*

*Calculated relationship

Burial: St James Churchyard Nayland Babergh District Suffolk, England

Created by: Ken Smith Record added: Jun 04, 2014 Find A Grave Memorial# 130889120

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GEDCOM Note

Biography ==John "the middle", a cardmaker, was born ca 1555 at Nayland, England and died there in 1613. He was taxed xvi d. on lands in the subsidy of 8 James I (1611). He married first, Elizabeth Scarlet on October 4, 1584 at Nayland. Elizabeth, the daughter of John Scarlett and Emma (____), was baptized in Nayland on August 30, 1561. She was buried there March 27, 1603/4. John married secondly, Rose (____), who was buried August 11, 1610, and thirdly, Rose Riddlesdale on April 23, 1611. All hischildren were by his first wife.

The Will of John Waren of Nayland in the County of Suffolk, cardmaker,27 March 1613. To be buried in the parish churchyard of Nayland. To wife Rose £20, the household goods and plate she brought with her, my tenement where William Bawlden dwells, during her life, and during herwidowhood the parlor and chamber in my now dwelling house. To son John and his lawful issue my mansion house where I now dwell, with the barn, stable and garden lying in Fen Street, excepting the aforesaid tworooms. To daughter Mary and her lawful issue, after the decease of mywife, my said tenement in Fen Street where William Baulden dwells, and in default of such issue to my son John, he to pay 40s. apiece to all my children then living. To sons Isaac, Nathaniel, Amos, and daughter Elizabeth, £10 apiece. To sons Joshua and Thomas £10 each at twenty-one. My plate to be equally divided between my wife and son John, and my household goods to be equally divided among my wife and all my children. To the poor people if Nayland 20s. All the residue of my goodsunbequeathed I give to my son John, whom I make my executor. [Signed]John Warrene. Witnesses : William Foorth, John Walter, and Edward Collinges. Proved November 4, 1613 by John Warren, son of the testator and the executor named in the will.

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..... John 'themyddle' Warren was a cardmaker of Nayland, Suffolk, England. A card was a metal comb or wire brush used for combing flax or wool. He was taxed sixteen pence there on lands in the subsidy for 8 James I., 1611. His Will was dated March 27, 1613, and proved November 4, 1613. He bequeathed to wife and children, and twenty shillings to poor people of Nayland.

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John "the middle" WARRENE - b. about 1552, Nayland, Suffolk; England; died 4 Nov 1613, Nayland, Suffolk, Eng. His will (dated Mar. 27, 1613; proved Nov. 4, 1613 at Nayland, Suffolk)names his wife Rose, and all his surviving children. Son of John WARREN. John "the middle", a cardmaker by trade, married (1) Oct. 4, 1584 Elizabeth SCARLETT. He married (2) about 1605 Rose (bur. Aug. 11, 1610, Nayland), and m (3) Apr. 23, 1611 at Nayland, Rose BRAND, the widow of Richard RIDDLESDALE of Boxford, Suffolk, son of Henry RIDDLESDALE. Rose (BRAND) RIDDLESDALE WARREN married third Nov. 20, 1617, Boxford, Suffolk, Richard GRYMES. ..... John 'the myddle' Warren was a cardmaker of Nayland, Suffolk, England. A card was a metal comb or wire brush used for combing flax or wool. He was taxed sixteen pence there on lands in the subsidy for 8 James I., 1611. His Will was dated March 27, 1613, and proved November 4, 1613. He bequeathed to wife and children, and twenty shillings to poor people of Nayland.[1B] Note: See Mark Scott's page on his Nayland ancestors. He is most interested in other families from Nayland. (TEXT OF THE WILL OF JOHN WARREN) The Will of John Waren of Nayland in the County of Suffolk, cardmaker,27 Mar. 1613. To be buried in the parish churchyard of Nayland. To wife Rose L20, the household goods and plate she brought with her, my tenement where William Bawlden dwells, during her life, and during her widowhood the parlor and chamber in my now dwelling house. To son John and his lawful issue my mansion house where I now dwell, with the barn, stable and garden lying in Fen Street, excepting the aforesaid two rooms. To daughter Mary and her lawful issue, after the decease of my wife, my said tenement in Fen Street where William Baulden dwells, and in default of such issue to my son John, he to pay 40s. apiece to all my children then living. To sons Isaac, Nathaniel, Amos, and daughter Elizabeth, L10 apiece. To sons Joshua and Thomas L10 each at twenty-one. My plate to be equally divided between my wife and son John, and myhousehold goods to be equally divided among my wife and all my children. To the poor people if Nayland 20s. All the residue of my goods unbequeathed I give to my son John, whom I make my executor. [Signed] John Warrene. Witnesses : William Foorth, John Walter, and Edward Collinges. Proved 4 Nov. 1613 by John Warren, son of the testor and the executor named in the will (P.C.C.,Capell,98.)[2B] 5. Elizabeth Scarlett b.abt 1561, Baptized: 30 Aug 1561, Nayland, Suffolk, England,{7} d. abt1603, buried: 27 Mar 1602/03, Nayland, Suffolk, England.{5}. Daughterof John SCARLETT and Emma. 1.John - bap. Aug. 1, 1585, Nayland, Suffolk, England; d. Dec. 13, 1667, Watertown, MA. 2. Daniel - bap. Nov. 13, 1586, Nayland, Suffolk; bur. Feb. 13, 1596/7, Nayland, Suffolk. 3. Isaac - bap. Jan. 28, 1587/8, Nayland, Suffolk. Living in 1613. 4. Nathaniel - bap. Sep. 7, 1589, Nayland, Suffolk; bur. Jan. 17, 1624/5, Nayland, Suffolk. Married Sep. 21, 1618, Nayland, Suffolk, Mary GONNE. Children: Nathaniel; Mary; and Thomas. 5. Amos - bap. Mar. 14, 1590/1, Nayland, Suffolk. Living in 1613. 6. Elizabeth - b. about 1592/3, Nayland, Suffolk. Living in 1613. 7. Joshua -bap. Apr. 2, 1594, Nayland, Suffolk. Living in 1613. 8. Joseph - bap. Dec. 19, 1596, Nayland, Suffolk; d. Jul. 22, 1596<sic>, Nayland, Suffolk. 9. Mary - bap. Mar. 22, 1598/99, Nayland, Suffolk. Living in 1613. 10. Thomas - bap. Feb. 22, 1600/1, Nayland, Suffolk. Married Jan. 15, 1638/9, Nayland, Suffolk, Mary RANCKE. Child: Samuel. Sources: [1] Genealogies and History of Watertown, by Henry Bond [2] Worcester County History [3] American Ancestry, Volume VII, 1982 [4] Colonial Families of the United States of America, Volume VI [5] New England Families,Volume IV,1914,by William Richard Cutter [6] Watertown Records,1894 (Land, Grants, and Possessions),Volume 1 [7] Middlesex County Probate (First Series Docket 23862),Volume 3 [8] Adair GEDCOM (ADAIR.GED),23 SEP 1994,by Matthew Adair,InterNet[9] The Winthrop Fleet of 1630,by Charles Edward Banks Michael Roman:Email: mj_romanaol.com Stephen M. Lawson: Email: lawson@tscnet.com Also: [1B] New England Families,Volume IV,1914,by William Richard Cutter, p.1975 [2B] The New EnglandHistoric Genealogical Register,1910,p.349 The Warren-Scarlett ancestry in England is primarily based on the material presented in The Ancestry of Eva Belle Kempton 1878-1908: Part I The Ancestry of Warren Francis Kempton 1817-1879, by Dean Crawford Smith and edited by Melinde Lutz Sanborn (Boston, 1996), pages 462-474. This work contains much additional supporting material, and additional details on family members.

Sources

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