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About Lettica ‘Lettie Hatchet Grey’ Howard
Evidence needed to support as daughter of Rev. Samuel Durham and his wife Eliza Durham)
Lettica ‘Lettie Hatchet Grey’ Durham
- Birth: - about 1744 "of" Wilkes County, Georgia. No source seen for birth date of Sept 13 1744
- Death: Sep 1 1843 - Floyd County, Kentucky, United States
- Husband: Thomas Howard - married 1758 in Georgia
Children as of 15 January 2025:
- John 'War Jack' Howard (1766-1824). Married Mary Ann Risner.
- Thomas Howard (1770-1853). Married Francis Jackson.
- James Morgan Howard, I (1772-1859). Married Elizabeth Green.
- Benjamin S Howard (1776-1850). Married Phebe Slusher
- ?Elizabeth Arnett (born Howard)
- Judith 'Julida' Howard (1782-1865) Married Howard Schlosser or Slusher, Sr.
- William Howard (1783-1868) Married Mary Salyer
- ? Celia 'Seley' (born Howard) Lovely
Disputed Origins
From a Geni profile contributor
I am compelled to add here that Letty Durham has never been found in any records. It is widely rumored that she was a pure blood Native American woman, but of all the mighty researchers who have tried over many years to pin down her identity, NO ONE has ever been able to find a record of her existence. This is not to say she never existed.. but many researchers will dispute that she should never have been added into family trees as the wife of this Thomas Howard. Until someone can find record of her existence, I choose NOT to have her in my ancestry. I personally don't believe she ever existed and I am not alone in that assumption.
From https://www.geni.com/discussions/179332?msg=1206302
Eliza Durham's parents are non-existent. If Eliza existed she was a white woman, not a Cherokee.
About a dozen descendants of 'Letty' made application for the Guion Miller payment in 1907 and were all rejected as their ancestors had no connection to the Cherokee Nation. So no one is or was a "Cherokee maiden".
Letty (Hatchet Grey) Durham - Howard:
It's believed her name was Durham. Burial: in Kentucky. She was Full Blood Cherokee Indian she came from the Asheville, N.C.Area, it was part of the Cherokee Nation in North Carolina and the border of Tennessee, the War Trace trail went through Asheville and the Cherokee Nation and Hopewell Treaty on Keowee River was 28 Nov 1785.. She is registered with The Southeastern Band of Cherokee in NC, although I have yet to find where. Also, her grandson, Riley (Dood) Howard, son of William, filed a claim for Cherokee compensation in 1907. Riley made a claim for Cherokee compensation in 1907. He stated his grandmother was Cherokee and his grandfather was Thomas Howard. Refence #1843.
Her name could be Letita or Letica for her first name. She was full blood Cherokee Indian. According to information that Eulonda Snowden came across, Lettie's Cherokee Indian name was (Hatchet Grey) and she was from the North Carolina Reservation. So far, no one has papers to prove this fact.
Other Notes:
BIOGRAPHY: Native researchers do believe Letty to be full blood Cherokee because of her location and time of birth and because Durham is a very well known Indian name. There are many Durham's still living on Reservations today. They got the name from a Missionary who helped the Cherokee people. There was also a recent book published. It was about the Revolutionary War. It had a lot about Thomas Howard and a Cherokee Chief named Shyuica he fought with for the British. It leads you to believe that Thomas was well-liked by the Cherokee people. This info I got from NAAH kitty. She published a newsletter about Native Americans. I know Thomas was killed by Indians but it was probably the Shawnee Indians. malcolm broadhurst 10-1-2004
b. 1744 in Cherokee Nation, Wilkes, GA
Letty may have been a one-half Cherokee Indian.
Subj: Re: Elizabeth Howard Date: 7/9/99 7:34:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: DDoolin To: LaurieMcK Laurie, My cousin and I found your line of info the most fascinating thing we have found in a long time. If you could (I know this may be asking too much) send me starting with Thomas and Letty's children all the info you have. It would help many. There are so many researching this line. I have some more info on Letty. I have been in contact with many Native researchers. They all knew of Letty already. People have been trying to prove her origin for some time. Native researchers do believe Letty to be full blood Cherokee because of her location and time of birth and because Durham is a very well known Indian name. There are many Durham's still living on Reservations today. They got the name from a Missionary who helped the Cherokee people. There was also a recent book published (I forget the title). It was about the Revolutionary War. It had a lot about Thomas Howard and a Cherokee Chief named Shyuica he fought with for the British. It leads you to believe that Thomas was well-liked by the Cherokee people. This info I got from NAAH kitty. She published a newsletter about Native Americans. I know Thomas was killed by Indians but it was probably the Shawnee Indians
References
- Eastern Cherokee applications of the U.S. Court of Claims, 1906-1909 [microform] Rejection rational for claim # 3809 https://archive.org/stream/easterncherokeea296unit#page/n749/mode/1up
- https://archive.org/stream/easterncherokeea296unit#page/n749/mode/1up
- https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Durham-508
- https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/risner/831/
- https://kirkhneely.com/2013/07/07/the-legend-of-skyuka/
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Lettica ‘Lettie Hatchet Grey’ Howard's Timeline
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1744
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Wilkes County, Georgia, United States of America
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| 1766 |
1766
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Knox County, Kentucky, United States
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1769
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June 8, 1770
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Wilkes County, Georgia, United States of America
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September 13, 1772
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Wilkes County, GA, United States
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1776
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Wilkes, Georgia, United States
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1779
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November 1781
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North Carolina, United States
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1783
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Russell County, Virginia, USA
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