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About Liutgarde de Namur, dame de Hanret
This Luitgard de Namur de Hanret has to be the sister of Albert I de Namur, not his daughter of the same name. She married Arnold of Cambrai and after his death Rudolf I of Haspinga, the precursor of the county of Loon. Arnold , 3rd count of Haspinga and Giselbert of Loon were her sons.
(Updated: November 30, 2018)
The previous hypothesis was:
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Lutgarde de Namur first married Arnold, 3rd count of Haspinga. After his death, she marries Arnold's brother, Giselbert. Whilst Arnold had consolidated the various possessions of his father (Rudolph), upon his death his brother Balderic, bishop of Liège, would rearrange the structure of these possessions. They are then handed over to Giselbert, thus in effect creating the first County of Loon as we know it - as a consolidation of the various counties in Hesbaye (Haspengouw). Through these rearrangements and her subsequent marriages to Arnold and Giselbert, Lutgarde was obviously instrumental in the creation of the county. Documentary proof to this sequence of events will be added later to this and other related profiles. (Updated: June 17, 2011)
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- 4. [LIUTGARDE [Emma] de Namur . The Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi names "Hadewidem et Emmam de Los" as the two daughters of "Ermengardis [fili%C3%A6 Karoli ducis]"[57]. The primary sources are contradictory regarding the identify of Liutgarde´s husband. The Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium names "Lutgarde filia Hermegardis Namurcensis comitissæ, Ottonis prefati ducis filie" as wife of "Ottonis comitis de Los", and the couple as parents of Baldric [II] Bishop of Liège[58]. From a chronological point of view, it is impossible for a daughter of Albert I Comte de Namur and his wife Ermengarde (married in 990) to have been the mother of Baldric Bishop of Liège (installed as bishop in 1008). Another version is provided by the Vita Arnulfi which names "Lugerdam, Godam, Ermengardam" as the three sisters of "Albertus comes Namurcensis", adding that Liutgarde was the mother of "Emmonem et Ottonem fratrem eius"[59]. No primary source has so far been found which names the father of the brothers Emmo and Otto. From a chronological point of view, it is possible that their father was Giselbert, son of Otto. If this is correct, it is possible that Liutgarde´s husband was Giselbert Comte de Looz. [m OTTO Comte [de Looz], son of [RUDOLF & his wife ---] (-[before 1016]).] [m GISELBERT Comte de Looz, son of OTTO Comte [de Looz] & his wife --- (-[1044/46]).]
- Her parents:
- Father: ALBERT, son of ROBERT [I] Comte de Namur & his wife --- (-shortly before 1011).
- m (990) Mother: ERMENGARDE, daughter of CHARLES Duke of Lower Lotharingia [Carolingian] & wife Adelais de Troyes ([970/75]-after 1013).
- Siblings:
- 1. ROBERT de Namur (-before 1031).
- 2. ALBERT de Namur (-[1063/64]).
- 3. HADWIDE de Namur ([1005/10]-28 Jan [1080]). m GERARD Duke of Upper Lotharingia, son of GERHARD Graf & his wife Gisela --- (-Remiremont [14 Apr] or 11 Aug [1070]).
- 5. GODA de Namur .
- 6. ERMENGARDE de Namur .
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NAMUR.htm#RobertIdiedbefore981
- 1. ROBERT [I] ([920/25]-before 981). ... m ---. Thierry Stasser suggests that the wife of Robert [I] Comte de Namur may have been [Liutgarde], daughter of Adalbert Graf [von Metz], emphasising that this is purely speculative based only on onomastics[21]. Comte Robert [I] & his wife had [five] children:
- a) ALBERT (-shortly before 1011). Albert, Gislebert and Ratbod are named as sons of Comte Robert in a charter dated 981[22]. He succeeded as ALBERT I Comte de Namur. - see below.
- b) GISELBERT ([955/60]-). ...
- c) RATBOD [Robert] . ...
- d) son (-[before 981]). ...
- e) [LIUTGARDE . Vanderkindere suggests that the wife of Arnoul [II] Comte de Cambrai may have been the daughter of Robert [I] Comte de Namur, both because the couple's son was named Albert and also because Liutgarde held property at Hanret in Darnau pagus which was divided between Namur and Brabant[27]. No other information has been identified from which any alternative ancestry can be deduced for Liutgarde. Liutgarde possessed the alleu de Hanret, Hesbaye[28]. "Arnulfus comes Valencencianensis et uxor eius Liutgardis cum filio suo Adalberto" donated property to Saint-Pierre-au-Mont-Blandin at Gent by charter dated 994[29]. m ARNOUL [II] Comte de Cambrai, son of ARNOUL [I] Comte de Cambrai & his wife Berta --- (-23 Oct 1012).]
Liutgarde de Namur, dame de Hanret's Timeline
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955
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Namur, Belgium
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1021
Age 66
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