Mabel de Londres

• Not the same as Maud de Cantelou
• Walter de Cauntelo is not a proven father of the wife of Maurice de Londres

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Biography

https://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/trees/162642/I03234/hawisede-lond...

Maurice de Londres was born ABT 1160 in Kidwelly, Carmanthenshire, Wales. He was the son of William de Londres.

Mabel de Cantelou was born ABT 1167 in Aston Cantlow, Alcester, Warwickshire, England, and died 1267. She was the daughter of Walter de Cantelou.

Children of Mabel de /Cantelou/ and Maurice de /Londres/, Lord of Kidwelly are:

• Thomas de Londres was born ABT 1183 in Kidwelly, Carmarthenshire, Wales, and died 1221. He married Eve (Eva) FitzWarin on AFT 1210 in 2nd husband. She was born ABT 1179 in Whittington, Oswestry, Shropshire, England.

Disputed Origins

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Cantilupe-31

UNPROVEN MARRIAGE BETWEEN MAURICE AND MABEL

The marriage between Maurice de Londres and Mabel de Cantelupe is NOT proven. A posting of 27 Jan 2005 by Douglas Richardson (author of Magna Carta Ancestry, publ. 2005 & 2011) to the SGM site (soc.genealogy.medieval on rootsweb) states: "My research (see copy of my earlier post below) indicates that Hawise de London, wife of Patrick de Chaworth, was the heiress of Mabel de Cantelowe in 1267, but no relationship is specified in the record. As such, unless further documentation is forthcoming, I believe it is overly optimistic to identify Hawise de London as Mabel de Cantelowe's granddaughter on the basis of this record alone. It is certainly possible that Mabel de Cantelowe was Hawise de London's paternal grandmother, but it is equally possible that Mabel was Hawise's paternal aunt or cousin, or a younger 2nd wife of her grandfather. Also, I hasten to point out that Cantelowe was not necessarily Mabel's maiden name. Rather, unless she was from a particularly lofty pedigree, the surname Cantelowe is probably Mabel's married name at the time of her death, not her maiden name..."

With this in mind, this ancestry of Mabel should NOT be used until proof is provided.

A different timeline

http://www.mathematical.com/cantilupemabel1139.html

Mabel de Cantilupe

• born about 1139
• died 1173 (end of information).
• father: unknown
• mother: unknown
• siblings: unknown
• spouse: Maurice (Malcolm) de Londres born about 1132 died 1173

children:

• Sir William de Londres born about 1170 died 1206

Sources

• http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2005-01/...
• http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweber&i...