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Major Andrew Monroe, Sr. (I)

Birthdate:
Birthplace: Katewell, Evanton, Highland, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland,
Death: 1668 (35-36)
Doctor's Point, Westmoreland Co., Virginia
Place of Burial: Doctor's Point, Westmoreland, Virginia, British Colonial America
Immediate Family:

Husband of Elizabeth Mountjoy
Father of Mary Monroe; Elizabeth Monroe; John Monroe; Col Andrew Monroe, (II); George Monroe and 2 others

2nd Great Grandson: US President James Monroe
7th Great Granddaughter: Marilyn Monroe
Managed by: Peter Scianna
Last Updated:

About Major Andrew Monroe, Sr. (I)


Emigrated from Scotland to Virginia, 1650.

Notes: Notable Kin Andrew's ancestry is unknown but is believed to be associated with the Clan Munro of Foulis in Scotland. Claims that Andrew Monroe is the son of David Munro of Katewell and Agnes Munro of Durness have been proven false.

Family

Children

Andrew and Elizabeth had six children:" [9] Andrew and an earlier wife had a child, George as well. [2] one of the children, William, was a great great grandfather of Scotty [Catharine] Borum and a great grandfather of President James Monroe." [29]

  • George Monroe, born about 1645 in Charles County, Maryland to Andrew Monroe and his unnamed first wife.; died before 1668 in Charles County, Maryland[2]
  • Mary Monroe b abt 1655, Westmoreland County, Virginia, d. 15 Jan 1660/61, Westmoreland County, Virginia (Age ~ 6 years)[2]
  • Andrew Monroe II, b. 1661, Washington Parish, Westmoreland County, Virginia, d. 9 Jun 1714, Westmoreland County, Virginia - Probate (Age 53 years)[2]
  • Elizabeth Monroe was born about 1662, Washington Parish, Westmoreland County, Virginia and died bef 1708, Westmoreland County, Virginia (Age ~ 45 years)[2] Elizabeth is named as one of the surviving children of Andrew Monroe, Sergeant in a suit of her husband Bunch Roe against Elizabeth's mother's new husband, George Horner. [28]
  • William Monroe, b. 1666, Washington Parish, Westmoreland County, Virginia, d. 26 Apr 1737, Westmoreland County, Virginia - Probate (Age 71 years)[2]
  • George Monroe was born bef 1668, Westmoreland County, Virginia, d. Bef 1679, Westmoreland County, Virginia (Age < 11 years)[2]
  • Susannah Monroe, b. Abt 1668, Washington Parish, Westmoreland County, Virginia [2] Married Weedon.

Copied from RootsWeb (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mysouthernfamily/myff/d007...)


Andrew Monroe (I) "Andrew Monroe emigrated from Scotland to America in 1650. He belonged to an ancient highland clan and was Captain in the service of King Charles I of England. He received his first grant of land June 8, 1650 in Northhumberland County, Virginia, and was later (1652) granted land in Westmoreland County, Virginia. In the time of King Charles II of England he returned to Scotland and induced others of his family to emigrate and another extensive grant of land was made to him by the Crown. In 1659/60 he was a Member of the Westmoreland Commission. In July 1661 he was elected to the Vestry of Appromattox Parish, Westmoreland County. He began to write the name Munroe and it finally attained its present form, Monroe. He married Elizabeth, who is said to be the daughter of Colonel John Alexander, who died in 1677. Andrew Monroe died in Westmoreland County in 1668. His widow Elizabeth Monroe, married a second time before July 30, 1679 George Horner, and a third time before February 23, 1686-7 Edward Mountjoy of Westmoreland County. Andrew and Elizabeth had six children:"

Encyclopedia of Virginia Biography, Volume I, IV--Burgesses and Other Prominent Persons:

"Andrew Monroe ancestor of President Monroe, was an early resident of Maryland, where he commanded a pinnace in the service of Cuthbert Fenwick, general agent of Lord Baltimore. He was a Protestant, and when Richard Ingle declared for parliament in 1645, Monroe took sides against Lord Baltimore's government and eventually settled like other refugee Marylanders at Mattox Creek, in Westmoreland county, under the Virginia authority. He died there in 1668."

"The Englishmen on the banks of the Potomac mingled elegant pleasures with rude labors and perilous enterprises. There is a record of a contract in 1670 between John LEE, son of Col. Richard LEEE, then deceased, Henry CORBIN, Isaac ALLERTON, and Dr. Thomas GERRARD, for building a banqueting house at or near their respective lands. The English colonist acted as far as the circumstances would permit, precisely as he would in London. It was a rare thing if the richer settlers did not visit the mother country once during the year...

Among those who resided in the "suburban" area (Westmoreland Co. VA) above Machodic, at Nomini Creek, were: Walter BRODHURST, Edmund BRENT, Nicholas SPENCER, Valentine PEYTON, Maj. John HALLOWES(HOLLIS), Above Nomini esided at Appomattox Creek (now Mattox) Col. John WASHINGTON, his father-in-law, Col. Nathaniel POPE, William BUTLER, the minister, and ANDREW MONROE, who lived in Maryland, in 1643. Still further up the river, beyond Nomini, were Samuel HAYWARD, , Col. Giles BRENT, and his famous sister, Margaret BRENT, at "Peace" on Acquia Creek. Other settlers were Capt. John ASHTON, Capt. John LORD, brother of Rich'd LORD, of Hartford, New England; Capt. William HARDWICH, a tailor from Maryland, brother-in-law of Mrs. WASHINGTON; Thomas STURMAN, of Maryland; Daniel HUTT, formerly of London; John ROSIER, minister, Anthony BRIDGES, Capt. George MASON (born in 1629), John HILLILER, Capt. Thomas EWELL, Col. Gerrard FOWKE, Col. Thomas SPEKE, Capt. William PIERCE, Capt. John APPLETON, Col. Tomas BLAGG, Capt. Alexander BAINHAM, Col. John DODMAN, Lewis MARKHAM, Clement SPELMAN, William BROWNE, of Plymouth, Daniel LISSON, Robert VAULX, and Capt. Thomas and William BALDRIDGE. " ( Genealogies of VA Families" from Wm. & Mary Quarterly, Vol. V, p.903-907.)

Pat Obrist

"Genealogies of Virginia Families", Wm & Mary College Qtrly Historical Magazine Vol 3, says that Andrew probably came to Maryland first, then to Virginia.



Fought in the Battle of Preson, 17 May 1648. Taken prisoner and sent to America (Maryland). Settled at Appamatox, VA 1650.

Disputed Origins

http://www.clanmunrousa.org/gen/getperson.php?personID=I432&tree=1

George H. S. King has argued quite convincingly that there were two distinct men named Andrew Munro/Monroe. (Clan Munro Magazine - #6 - 1959-60) King believed that the earlier Andrew immigrated to Maryland in 1637 and ultimately became the ancestor of President James Monroe. His ancestry is completely unknown. King says that the second Andrew was a minister and was the son of David Munro of Katewell and his wife Agnes Munro, but this Andrew was not the ancestor of President Monroe. There is great controversy about these two versions of history. In this database, we show David of Katewell and Agnes Munro as ancestors of President Monroe, but that assumption is very weak and definitely not proven.


https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Monroe-377

In 1898, Scottish genealogist Alexander Mackenzie wrote, Andrew, who under his distinguished relative, General Sir George Munro, I, of Newmore, fought, with the rank of Major, at the battle of Preston, on the 17th of August, 1648, was taken prisoner there, and banished to Virginia, America. Andrew managed to effect his escape and settled in Northumberland County, Virginia, where he had several grants of land made to him, the first extending to 200 acres, designated as one of the "Head Rights," being dated the 8th of June, 1650. He married, and had issue, from whom, it is believed, President James Monroe of the United States of America was descended. [30]
This account, tying together a battle in England and a land grant in Virginia linked only by similar names, gave Scottish nobility an American President for a descendant, and gave an American President's family a distinguished noble ancestry. The connection initiated by Mackenzie in 1898, was assumed by Edward S. Lewis in his Ancestry of James Monroe. [12]
Because facts have not been found to support this connection, WikiTree has a separate profile for Major Andrew Munro of the Katewell Munros, and for his parents, David and Agnes Munro, who were previously shown as the parents for Andrew Monroe, Immigrant to Maryland and Virginia. The difficulties imposed by conflating linking these two Andrews into one include the following:

  • The Maryland Andrew signed documents with a mark, indicating he was illiterate. Major Andrew of Katewell was literate. Noting this distinction in the documents, some writers conjectured an Andrew Monroe allotting time among his other mid-life pursuits, to learn to read and write. Lewis, for instance, wrote that "Andrew began to write the name Munroe and it finally attained its present form, Monroe[12]
  • The Maryland Andrew having sided with the Parliamentarians and against the Royal government during Ingle's Rebellion in Maryland in 1645, and then retreating to Parliament-governed Virginia, the notion that the same Andrew crossed the Atlantic to fight against the Parliamentarians on behalf of the Scots and king is improbable.
  • By April of 1648, Andrew Monroe, Immigrant was just getting settled in his new property in Appomattox, Virginia -- an unusual time to return to Scotland to fight a war in August of that same year.
  • England and Scotland of this period were extremely class conscious. The notion that someone who was illiterate in Maryland and possibly a servant there would emerge in a Battle with a rank of Major appears doubtful. Parents and Ancestry

If one agrees that Andrew Monroe, Immigrant, and Major Andrew Munro of Scotland were two different people, then one agrees that the parents and ancestors of Andrew Monroe, immigrant, are unknown. If one asserts that the two are one, then the well known ancestors of Major Andrew Munro were also ancestors of Andrew Monroe, Immigrant.
Scholars fall into two camps:

  • The two-person camp asserts that an Andrew Monroe came to Maryland in 1637 and was there until he moved to Virginia in 1648, and was not the Major Andrew Munro, son of James, who fought in the Battle of Preston, England, in 1648. This theory solves the problem of Andrew being two places in 1648, but, since there appears to be only one Andrew Monroe in Virginia subsequently, leaves unsolved the question of which Andrew died in 1677. The two-person theory is advocated by King, as reported by Roberts: Andrew Monroe/Munro of St. Mary's County, Maryland (1642-1647) and later of Westmoreland County, Virginia, was not the younger Mr. Andrew Munro, second son of David Munro of Katewell and Agnes Munro of Durness, and rector of St. Luke's Church, Newport Parish, Isle of Wight County, Virginia, who died intestate in 1719. [31]
  • The one-person camp asserts that Andrew Monroe who came to Maryland in 1642 returned to Scotland in 1648 in order to fight at the Battle of Preston and after the defeat there was taken prisoner and banished to Virginia. This theory solves the problem of two Andrews, but leaves unsolved the question that the earlier Maryland Andrew appears to be illiterate, while the Scottish Major was literate -- and also the question of what prompted a Maryland settler to return to Scotland at that particular time. The one-person theory is advocated by Lewis [12]

References

  • https://famouskin.com/family-group.php?name=9497+james+monroe&ahnum=16
  • 1 The American Genealogist , New Haven, Connecticut: D. L. Jacobus (issues newer than 5 years not online) , 1970, Vol. 46, pp. 182-183, New England Historic Genealogical Society (Online Database).
  • 2 Brogan, Hugh and Charles Mosley , American P residential Families , New York: Macmillan Publishing Company (1993) , 270.
  • 3 Roberts, Gary Boyd, comp. , Ancestor s of American Presidents , Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society (2009) , 18.
  • 4 Tyler, Lyon G., ed. , William and Mary College Quarterly Historical Magazine, Vol. 04 , Richmond, Virginia: Whittet and Shepperson (1896) , April 1896, No. 4, p. 273.
  • 5 Tyler, Lyon G., ed. , William and Mary College Quarterly Historical Magazine, Vol. 16 , Richmond, Virginia: Whittet and Shepperson (1907/1908) , Jan 1907, No. 1, p. 51, Google Books (Digital Library).
  • Lewis, Edward S. "Ancestry of James Monroe." The William and Mary Quarterly 3, no. 3 (1923): 173-79. Accessed August 23, 2020. doi:10.2307/1919192.
  • Military service: The Battle of Preston
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Major Andrew Monroe, Sr. (I)'s Timeline

1632
1632
Katewell, Evanton, Highland, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland,
1650
1650
Westmoreland, Virginia, United States
1656
1656
Westmoreland, Virginia, United States
1659
1659
Virginia, United States
1661
1661
Monroe Creek, Westmoreland County, Virginia
1664
1664
Westmoreland, Virginia, United States
1666
1666
Monroe Creek, Westmoreland County, Virginia, British Colonial America
1668
1668
Westmoreland, Virginia, United States
1668
Age 36
Doctor's Point, Westmoreland Co., Virginia