Margaret Lindsay, Lady of Lamberton

Biography

Margaret de Lindsay, daughter of Walter de Lindsay, of Lamberton & Molesworth and his wife Christian was probably born after 1246 in Lamberton, Berwickshire, Scotland. She was living in 1274.

Alternatively, she was a generation earlier, the daughter of Sir William de Lindsay of Lamberton and his wife Alicia de Lancaster (William & Alice currently showing as her grandparents).

Margaret married Sir David de LINDSAY Knight on (1255 / 1266) in Breneville, Ayrshire, Scotland. He was the son of Sir David de LINDSAY Knight & his unknown wife.

They had the following children:

1.   M i Sir Alexander de LINDSAY Knight was born 1258 / abt 1267 and died Mar 1312.
2.   M ii Sir William de LINDSAY Knight was born 1261 / bef. 1268. Two wives: Alicia; and Margaret Comyn, Countess of Buchan. (His lands were later claimed by the great grandson of his brother Alexander, James.[2]
3.   M iii Duncan de LINDSAY 1 was born 1264 / bef 1268 in Breneville, Ayrshire, Scotland.

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Origins

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WILLIAM de Lindsay, son of WALTER de Lindsay & his wife --- (-1247). Balfour Paul states that William de Lindsay Lord of Lamberton, son of Walter de Lindsay, witnessed a charter of King Alexander II[1209].

m ([1220]%29 ALICE de Lancaster, daughter of GILBERT FitzRoger & his wife Hawise de Lancaster (-before 1247). A manuscript describing the descendants of “Ivo Tayleboyse” names “Helewisiam primogenitam…maritata Petro de Brus seniori, Alicia…maritata Willo de Lindesay et Serotam…maritata Alano de Multono” as the three sisters of "Willielmum de Lancastre…tertius et ultimus"[1210]. Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by a writ dated Thursday after Epiphany "56 Hen III", after the death of her son "Walter de Lyndesay", which records "a moiety of the lands which were of William de Lonecastre his uncle, one of whose heirs he was, excepting the dower of Agnes sometime the wife of the said William"[1211].

William & his wife had one child:

1. WALTER de Lindsay ([1231/32]-2 Nov 1271). … m as her first husband, CHRISTIANA, daughter of ---. She married secondly (before 23 Sep 1274) Walter Percy. Alexander III King of Scotland informed Edward I King of England that "with his assent Cristiana widow of Walter de Lyndesay had married Walter de Percy" by letter dated 23 Sep 1274[1215]. "Walter de Percy of Kyldale" paid a fine of 80 marks for marrying "Cristiana widow of Walter de Lindeseye" without King Edward’s permission by charter dated 14 Jun 1275[1216]. Inquisitions following a writ dated 10 Nov "10 Edw I", after the death of "William de Lyndeseye”, mentions land dowered to “Christiana mother of the said William”[1217].

Walter & his wife had [three] children:

• a) WILLIAM de Lindsay of Lamberton (1250-before 10 Nov 1282). … m (15 May 1266) ADA Balliol, daughter of JOHN de Balliol of Barnard Castle, co Durham & his wife Devorguilla of Galloway.
• b) [MARGARET de Lindsay . Balfour Paul shows her parentage and marriage[1225]. m DAVID de Lindsay, son of ---.]
• c) [ALICE de Lindsay (-after 18 Nov 1279). Balfour Paul suggests that her parentage is confirmed by her possession of Ulseby and her son John Comyn (presumably indicating John Comyn "the Black") being guardian of Alexander Lindsay, son of her supposed sister Margaret and David de Lindsay[1226]. However, the chronology suggests that John Comyn "the Black" was the son of John Comyn’s first wife. Considering the birth of her supposed father Walter de Lindsay in [1231/33], it is unlikely that Alice could have married John Comyn before [1265] at the earliest. m ([1265/70]%29 as his second wife, JOHN Comyn Lord of Badenoch, son of RICHARD Comyn & his wife --- (-1277).]

[1225] Balfour Paul The Scots Peerage, Vol. III, Lindsay, Earl of Crawford, p. 5.

Family

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a) DAVID Lindsay (-on crusade [1268/71]). Regent of Scotland 1255. High Chamberlain 1256. "…Davide de Lindesai juniore…" witnessed the undated charter under which "Alexander senescallus Scocie" confirmed the donation to Balmerino abbey of "una terra in burgo de Perth" made by "Walterus pater meus"[1262]. m MARGARET Lindsay, daughter of [WALTER de Lindsay & his wife Christiana ---]. Balfour Paul shows her parentage and marriage[1263]. "Willelmus de Lyndesay miles filius quondam dni David de Lyndeshay" donated revenue to Newbattle priory, for the souls of "dni David de Lydesay patris mei et Margarete de Lyndesay matris mee", by charter dated 1293[1264].

David & his wife had three children:

• i) ALEXANDER Lindsay (-after 1308). The Ragman Roll names "…Phelippe de Lindeseye…Alisaundre de Lindeseye, knights" among those who swore allegiance to Edward I King of England at Berwick-upon-Tweed 28 Aug 1296[1265]. m ---. The name of Alexander’s wife is not known. Alexander & his wife had one child: …
• ii) WILLIAM Lindsay (-after [1310]). 1270]. m firstly ALICE, daughter of -. m secondly [as her second husband,] MARGARET [Comyn, widow of JOHN Ross, daughter of ALEXANDER Comyn & his wife Joanna] (-before [1310]). …
• iii) DUNCAN Lindsay (-after [1310]). "Willelmus de Lindesay" donated property to Deer, for the souls and anniversaries of "Margarete comitisse de Bucquhan quondam sponse mee et Alisie de Lyndesay prioris sponse mee", by charter dated to [1310], witnessed by “domino Duncano Lindsay fratre meo...”[1275].

[1263] Balfour Paul The Scots Peerage, Vol. III, Lindsay, Earl of Crawford, p. 5.
[1264] Newbattle, 172, p. 137.

References

1. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lindsay-144 retrieved retrieved 20 September 2023 cites
   1. Paul, James Balfour. "The Scots Peerage : founded on Wood's ed. of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that kingdom", Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1906, Vol. III, Archive.org, p.5 < Archive.Org >
   2. Paul, James Balfour. "The Scots Peerage : founded on Wood's ed. of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that kingdom", Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1906, Vol. III, Archive.org, p.9 < Archive.Org >
2. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hwbradley/aqwg2431.htm#54316 shows her as daughter of Sir William I de LINDSAY Knight died 1245 & Alice de Lancaster, born 1234, married 1255, died 1275.
   1. Paul, James Balfour, The Scots Peerage (Edinburgh: D. Douglas, 1904-14.), 3:9, Los Angeles Public Library, 929.72 P324.
   2. Linzee, John William, The Lindeseie and Limesi Families of Great Britain (Boston, Massachusetts: The Fort Hill Press, 1917.), pp. 280, 284, Family History Library, 929.242 L659L.
3. < Stirnet - 'Lindsay01' > retrieved 20 September 2023 (1) Sir William de Lindsay of Lamberton (d c1247) m. (c1220) Alice de Lancaster of Windermere (dau of William de Lancaster, Lord of Kendal, by Agnes de Brus)
   1. (A) Walter de Lindsay of Lamberton & Molesworth (d 1271) m. Christian
      1. (i) Walter or William de Lindsay of Lamberton (b 24.06.1250, d 1282-3) m. (1266) Ada Baliol (sister of King John Baliol)
      2. (ii) Gilbert de Lindsay of Molesworth
      3. (iii) Walter de Lindsay of Parva Lamberton probably ancestor of Lindsays of Thurston
      4. (iv) Margaret de Lindsay -- m. Sir David de Lindsay of Luffness, Regent, High Chamberlain (d 1268) @@ below --
         1. (a) Sir David de Lindsay of Crawford (d before 13.10.1357)§D m(1). (1324) Maria Abernethy (dau of Sir Alexander de Abernethy )
         2. (b) Sir Alexander de Lindsay possibly ancestor of Lindsay of Ormiston
         3. (c) Beatrix de Lindsay (d before 1352) - m1. Sir Archibald Douglas of Liddesdale, Cavers, etc. (Regent of Scotland, b c1297, d Halidon Hill 19.07.1333) -- m2. (after 07.1335) Sir Robert Erskine of that ilk (d 1385, Chamberlain, Ambassador)
         4. (d)+ other issue - Reginald,
         5. William (d by 01.1339, rector of Ayr, Chamberlain of Scotland)
      5. (v) Alicia de Lindsay m. John Comyn of Badenoch & Tynedale
4. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY%20UNTITLED.htm#... retrieved 22 September 2023
5. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY%20UNTITLED.htm#... retrieved 22 September 2023
6. https://www.clanmacfarlanegenealogy.info/genealogy/TNGWebsite/getpe... shows her married 2nd to William Abernethy, 1st of Saltoun. However, his children seem to have been contemporary to this Margaret. Was she a second wife after Margaret, wife of William de Abernethy died?