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Margaret de Quincy, 2nd Countess of Lincoln suo jure

Birthdate:
Birthplace: Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England, United Kingdom
Death: March 30, 1266 (53-62)
Greater London, England, United Kingdom
Place of Burial: Hospitallers, Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
Immediate Family:

Daughter of Robert "the Elder" de Quincy, of Winchester and Hawise de Meschines, Countess of Lincoln
Wife of Sir Walter Marshall of Pembroke and John de Lacy, 2nd Earl of Lincoln, Magna Carta Surety
Mother of Maud, Countess of Gloucester; Edmund de Lacy, baron of Pontefract, 3rd Earl of Lincoln (disputed) and Alice de Lacy, of Clifton
Sister of Roger de Quincy; Mabel de Quincy; Lucy Locke and Elene de Quincy
Half sister of William de Bostock and Sir Ralph (or Gilbert) Bostock

Occupation: Countess of Lincoln
Managed by: James Fred Patin, Jr.
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Margaret de Quincy, Countess of Lincoln (c.1206- March 1266), was a wealthy English noblewoman and heiress having inherited suo jure the earldom of Lincoln and honours of Bolingbroke from her mother Hawise of Chester, and acquired a dower third from the extensive earldom of Pembroke following the death of her second husband, Walter Marshal, 5th Earl of Pembroke. Her first husband was John de Lacy, 1st Earl of Lincoln, by whom she had two children. He was created Earl of Lincoln by right of his marriage to Margaret. Margaret has been described as "one of the two towering female figures of the mid-13th century".


Margaret de Quincy, Countess of Lincoln

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Margaret de Quincy, Countess of Lincoln (c.1206- March 1266), was a wealthy English noblewoman and heiress having inherited suo jure the earldom of Lincoln and honours of Bolingbroke from her mother Hawise of Chester, and acquired a dower third from the extensive earldom of Pembroke following the death of her second husband, Walter Marshal, 5th Earl of Pembroke. Her first husband was John de Lacy, 1st Earl of Lincoln, by whom she had two children. He was created Earl of Lincoln by right of his marriage to Margaret. Margaret has been described as "one of the two towering female figures of the mid-13th century".

Margaret was born in about 1206, the daughter and only child of Robert de Quincy and Hawise of Chester, herself the co-heiress of her brother Ranulf de Blondeville, 6th Earl of Chester. Hawise became suo jure Countess of Chester in April 1231 when her brother resigned the title in her favour.

Her paternal grandfather, Saer de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester was one of the 25 sureties of the Magna Carta; as a result he was excommunicated by the Church in December 1215. Two years later her father died after having been accidentally poisoned through medicine prepared by a Cisterian monk.

Sometime before 21 June 1221, Margaret married as his second wife, her first husband John de Lacy of Pontefract. The purpose of the alliance was to bring the rich Lincoln and Bolingbroke inheritance of her mother to the de Lacy family. John's first marriage to Alice de l'Aigle had not produced issue; although John and Margaret together had two children:

1) Maud de Lacy (25 January 1223- 1287/10 March 1289), married in 1238 Richard de Clare, 6th Earl of Hertford, 2nd Earl of Gloucester, by whom she had seven children.

2) Edmund de Lacy, 2nd Earl of Lincoln (died 2 June 1258), married in 1247 Alasia of Saluzzo, daughter of Manfredo III of Saluzzo, by whom he had three children, including Henry de Lacy, 3rd Earl of Lincoln.

On 23 November 1232, Hawise of Chester, who received permission from King Henry III, granted the earldom of Lincoln jointly to John and Margaret. John de Lacy was created 1st Earl of Lincoln, by right of his marriage to Margaret, and Margaret became the suo jure Countess of Lincoln. In 1238, Margaret and her husband paid King Henry the large sum of 5,000 pounds to obtain his agreement to the marriage of their daughter Maud to Richard de Clare, 6th Earl of Hertford, 2nd Earl of Gloucester. On 22 July 1240 John de Lacy died. Although he was nominally succeeded by their only son Edmund, Margaret controlled the earldom of Lincoln in lieu of her son who was still in his minority and being brought up at the court of Henry III and Eleanor of Provence. Edmund was never formally invested as earl, and he predeceased his mother by eight years. As the widowed Countess of Lincoln, Margaret was brought into contact with some of the most important people in the county of Lincolnshire. Among these included Robert Grosseteste, Bishop of Lincoln, the most significant intellectual in England at the time who recognised Margaret's position as Countess of Lincoln to be legitimate and important, and he viewed Margaret as both patron and peer. He dedicated Les Reules Seynt Robert, his treatise on estate and household management, to her.

She married secondly on 6 January 1242, Walter Marshal, 5th Earl of Pembroke, Lord of Striguil, Lord of Leinster, Earl Marshal of England, one of the ten children of William Marshal, 1st Earl of Pembroke and Isabel de Clare, 4th Countess of Pembroke. This marriage, like those of his four brothers, did not produce any children; therefore when he died at Goodrich Castle on 24 November 1245, Margaret inherited a third of the earldom of Pembroke as well as the properties and lordship of Kildare. Her dower third outweighed any of the individual holdings of the 13 different co-heirs of the five Marshal sisters which meant she would end up controlling more of the earldom of Pembroke and lordship of Leinster than any of the other co-heirs; this brought her into direct conflict with her own daughter, Maud whose husband was by virtue of his mother Isabel Marshal one of the co-heirs of the Pembroke earldom. As a result of her quarrels with her daughter, Margaret preferred her grandson Henry who would became the 3rd Earl of Lincoln in 1272. She and her Italian daughter-in-law Alasia of Saluzzo shared in the wardship of Henry who was Margaret's heir, and the relationship between the two women appeared to have been cordial.


  1. D: I41505
  2. Name: Margaret Quincy Marchioness
  3. Surname: Quincy
  4. Given Name: Margaret
  5. Suffix: Marchioness
  6. Prefix: Countess
  7. Sex: F
  8. Birth: 1218 in Winchester,England 1 2 3 4 5
  9. Christening: 1258 91sm-0g
  10. Death: 12 Mar 1284 in England 1 2 3 4 5
  11. Burial: BEF 30 Mar 1266 (Lady Groby) 3
  12. Event: Christened 1258 3
  13. Burial: BEF 30 Mar 1266 Hospitallers, Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
  14. Death: BET DEC 1284 AND MAR
  15. Birth: Abt. 1216 in Of, Winchester, Hampshire, England
  16. Birth: Abt. 1216 in Of, Winchester, Hampshire, England
  17. Note:
   ANCESTRAL FILE; PED FROM ELIZABETH ANN KELSO - BORN 27 JUN 1926.

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PUBL St. Catherine Press, 29 Great Queen St, Kingsway, W.C. 1959 excellent
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  1. Change Date: 26 Apr 2008 at 09:16:37

Father: Robert De Quincy b: 1182 in Of, Winchester, (Buckley), Hampshire, England c: 1219 in Colne Quincy,Essex.

Mother: Helen of Galloway (Elena) MacDonald [Countess Worcester] b: 1208 in Carrick, Ayr, Scotland

Father: Robert De Quincy b: 1182 in Of, Winchester, (Buckley), Hampshire, England c: 1219 in Colne Quincy,Essex.

Mother: Hawise De Meschines b: 1160 in Of, Chester, Cheshire, England

Father: Robert de Quincy b: 1172 in of Winchester (Buckley), Hampshire c: 11 Oct 1937

Mother: Hawise le Meschines Cts de Lincoln b: 1180 in Chester, Chestershire, England

Father: Robert De Quincy b: 1182 in Of, Winchester, (Buckley), Hampshire, England c: 1219 in Colne Quincy,Essex.

Mother: Helen of Galloway [Macdonal] Countess of Wor b: ABT 1208/1200 in Leuchars,Fifeshire,Scotland

Marriage 1 Walter Marshall [Earl Pembroke] b: ABT 1206 in Of, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales c: in Llzv-Dh

   * Married: 1230 3 13 14

Children

  1. Has No Children John Marshall b: ABT 1259 in Newark, England

Marriage 2 William III Ferrers b: 1193 in Ferrers, Derby, England c: in B3d9-2c

   * Married: 1238 in England 1 7 2 5 4 3

* Sealing Spouse: 11 Mar 1992 in PROVO
* Event: Seal Unknown 29 Jun 1967 in Sl
* Event: Seal 29 Jun 1967 in Sl 2 3
Children

  1. Has No Children William de Ferrers b: 1240 in Groby,Leicestershire,England

2. Has No Children Agnes de Ferrers b: 1244 in Derbyshire,England
3. Has Children Joan de Ferrers b: 1248 in Derbyshire,England
4. Has Children Joane Ferrers b: ABT 1248 in Ferrers, Derby, England
5. Has Children William IV Ferrers Earl Derby b: 1240 in Groby, Leicester, England
6. Has No Children Robert Ferrers [Earl of Derby] b: 1239 in of,Derby,Lincolnshire,England
7. Has Children Agnes De Ferrers b: 1244 in of,Derby,Derbyshire,England
8. Has No Children Elizabeth Ferrers b: ABT 1246 in Derby, Derby, England
9. Has No Children William De Ferrers [Sir Knight] b: ABT 1240 in of,Groby,Leicestershire,England
Marriage 3 John Lacy b: 1192 in Lincoln, Lincoln, England c: in 9blb-53

   * Married: BEF 20 Jun 1221 in Of, , Lincolnshire, England 4 3

* Sealing Spouse: 31 Aug 1938 in SLAKE
* Event: Seal 4 Jan 1949 3
* Married:
Children

  1. Has No Children Idonea Lacy b: ABT 1226 in Lincoln, England

2. Has Children Maud De Lacy b: ABT 1223 in ,Lincoln,Lincolnshire,England
3. Has No Children Edmund Lacy [Earl Lincoln] b: 1230 in Lincoln, England
4. Has Children Maud De Lacy b: ABT 1223 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England c: 25 Feb 1933
Marriage 4 Richard Wiltshire b: WFT Est 1194-1232

   * Married: BEF 7 Jun 1252 in Of, Lincolnshire, England 3

Marriage 5 John de Lacy Earl of Lincoln b: 1192 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England

   * Married: 21 Jun 1221

Children

  1. Has Children Maude de Lacy Cts de Lincoln b: 1223 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England

2. Has No Children Edmund de Lacy Earl of Lincoln b: 1227
3. Has Children Maud de Lacy b: ABT. 1223 in Lincoln, England
4. Has No Children Idonea De Lacy b: 1223
Marriage 6 Richard de Wiltshire

   * Married: AFT. 24 NOV 1245

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Margaret de Quincey1

F, #42706, d. before 30 March 1266

Last Edited=2 Nov 2005

    Margaret de Quincey was the daughter of Robert de Quincey and Hawise of Chester, Countess of Lincoln.1 She married, firstly, John de Lacy, 1st Earl of Lincoln before 21 June 1221.1 She married, secondly, Walter Marshal, Earl of Pembroke circa 1242. She married, thirdly, Richard de Woltshire before 7 June 1252. She died before 30 March 1266.

From before 21 June 1221, her married name became de Lacy. From circa 1242, her married name became Marshal. From before 7 June 1252, her married name became de Woltshire.
Children of Margaret de Quincey and John de Lacy, 1st Earl of Lincoln

Matilda de Lacy+ d. b 1289

Edmund de Lacy, 2nd Earl of Lincoln+ b. 1230, d. 1258

Citations

[S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume VII, page 679. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.

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Margaret de Quincy, 2nd Countess of Lincoln suo jure's Timeline

1208
1208
Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England, United Kingdom
1223
January 25, 1223
Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England
1227
May 1227
Halton,Cheshire,England
1258
1258
Age 50
1258
Age 50
1258
Age 50
1258
Age 50
1258
Age 50
1266
March 30, 1266
Age 58
Greater London, England, United Kingdom