Philip ab Elidir

Please see Darrell Wolcott: The Royal Family of Gwynedd: Einion ap Llywarch of Carmanthenshire; http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id163.html. (Steven Ferry, April 1, 2017.)

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• http://www.thepeerage.com/p39433.htm#i394329
• 'Philip ap Elidir1
• M, #394329
• Last Edited=2 Jan 2010
• ' Philip ap Elidir is the son of Elidir Dhu ap Elidir.2
• ' Philip ap Elidir lived at Y Crug, Llandeilo, Carmarthenshire, Wales.1 From 1386 to 1387 he was in the retinue of John of Gaunt.1
• Child of Philip ap Elidir
  • 1.Nicholas ap Philip+2
• Citations
• 1.[S37] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 1, page 1255. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.
• 2.[S37] Charles Mosley, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.
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• http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p4637.htm#...
• 'Philip ap Elidir1
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• Father Elidir Ddu ap Elidir1 b. c 1195
• Mother Elsbeth ferch Seisyll1 b. c 1205
• ' Philip ap Elidir married Gwladus verch Daffyd Fras, daughter of David Fras ap Einion Goch and Elen verch Meurig Trwyn.1
• 'Family Gwladus verch Daffyd Fras
• Child
  • ◦Nicholas ap Philip+1 b. c 1367
• Citations
• 1.[S50] Jamie Allen's Internet site.
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◦DISTINCTION: Esquire. (Dwnn, Heraldic Visitations of Wales, vol. 2 p. 57)

RESIDENCE: Crug. (Bartrum, Welsh Genealogies - Additions and Corrections 300-1400, 6th List, p. 13)

(Research) KINSHIP: Conflict/Error> Thomas' 'Golden Grove MS' book 2 page A139 gives him a daughter named Arddun who married Llywelyn ap Gruffudd ap Maredudd "Gam", but his Llywelyn was born about 1230. ◦(Research):KINSHIP: Investigate> Bartrum's 'Welsh Genealogies 300-1400' volume 5 page 329 does not state to which wife he belongs. Placed with 1st wife until further research proves otherwise.

KINSHIP: Conflict/Error> Evans' 'British Genealogist' book 8 page H65 gives him additional sons: Gwilym "Fychan" and a Gruffudd, but Gruffudd son of Nicolas, thus a grandson.

source:

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2.[S2436] #4569 Welsh Genealogies AD 1400-1500 (1983), Bartrum, Peter C. (Peter Clement), (18 volumes, with supplements containing additions and corrections. Aberystwyth: National Library of Wales, 1983), FHL book 942.9 D2bw., vol. 1 p. 44.

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4.[S121] Peerage (Collins, Brydges), Brydges, Sir Egerton, 1762-1837, (9 vols. London: [T. Bensley], 1812), FHL 942 D22bc., vol. 7 p. 504, 509.

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7.[S2434] #2105 Heraldic Visitations of Wales and Part of the Marches Between the Years 1586 and 1613 by Lewys Dwnn (1846), Dwnn, Lewys; transcribed and edited with notes by Sir Samuel Rush Meyrick, (2 volumes. Llandovery: William Rees, 1846), FHL book 942.9 D23d; FHL microfilm 176,668., vol. 1 p. 15, 27, 28, 62, 90, 91, 96, 118 fn. 7, 123, 131*, 138, 141, 142, 147, 150, 210*, 212*, 216, 221, 235; vol. 2 p. 26, 28, 29, 32, 33, 39, 40, 42, 44, 47*, 52*, 53*, 56, 57*, 60.

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11.[S327] WG 300-1400 - 6th List, Bartrum, Peter C., (Aberystwyth. Llyfregell Genedlaethol Cymru / The National Library of Wales. 1999.), FHL 942.9 Dwbp supp. 6., p. 13.

12.[S138] MS. 6614E - Davies of Cringell (MFU #11617), (National Library of Wales manuscript number 6614E. Salt Lake City, Utah: Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1950.), FHL microfilm 104381 item 8., no page numbers.

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15.[S2434] #2105 Heraldic Visitations of Wales and Part of the Marches Between the Years 1586 and 1613 by Lewys Dwnn (1846), Dwnn, Lewys; transcribed and edited with notes by Sir Samuel Rush Meyrick, (2 volumes. Llandovery: William Rees, 1846), FHL book 942.9 D23d; FHL microfilm 176,668., vol. 1 p. 15, 27, 28, 90, 96, 131, 138, 141, 142, 147, 210, 212, 221, 235.

16.[S2434] #2105 Heraldic Visitations of Wales and Part of the Marches Between the Years 1586 and 1613 by Lewys Dwnn (1846), Dwnn, Lewys; transcribed and edited with notes by Sir Samuel Rush Meyrick, (2 volumes. Llandovery: William Rees, 1846), FHL book 942.9 D23d; FHL microfilm 176,668., vol. 2 p. 60.

17.[S2410] #1105 Genealogies of the Carmarthenshire Sheriffs from 1539-1913 (1910-1913), Buckley, James, (2 volumes. Carmarthen: W. Spurrell, 1910-1913), FHL book 942.98 D2b., p. 2, 4.

18.[S2434] #2105 Heraldic Visitations of Wales and Part of the Marches Between the Years 1586 and 1613 by Lewys Dwnn (1846), Dwnn, Lewys; transcribed and edited with notes by Sir Samuel Rush Meyrick, (2 volumes. Llandovery: William Rees, 1846), FHL book 942.9 D23d; FHL microfilm 176,668., vol. 2 p. 33.

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