Robert Montague, of Boveney

The following information about Robert can not be correct. it states he was born in 1528 yet it shows
he had children born in 1536 1538 1539 1542 1545 and 1548. he would have his Chrilden when he
was 8 10 11 14 17 and 20. Other sights show he was born in 1505 not 1528. the info also shows
he was married in 1547 one year before his last child was born in 1548.. Margaret Cotton was born
in 1517 not 1528. She would have been 19 when their first child was born not 8 as this info shows.

The Pedigree of Montague, Boveney, and Dorney, England

Robert Montague, of Boveney, was born in Boveney, Burnham, Buckingham, England and died 16 Jan 1574/5/6 in Boveney, Berkshire, England

Parents: William Montague b: 1485 and Joan Grow b: 1489

Married:

1. in 1547, Boveney, Berkshire, England, to Margaret Cotton. She was b: 1528 in Wardville, Buckinghamshire, England and was the daughter of Roger Cotton.

Children of Robert Montague of Boveney and Margaret Cotton:

1. Katherine Montague b: ABT 1536 in Boveny, Buckinghamshire, England. She married 1st to John Goldwin and 2nd to Roger Lutman.
2. Daughter Montague b: ABT 1538 in Boveney, Berkshire, England.
3. Agnes Montague b: ABT 1539 in Boveney, Buckinghamshire, England. She married Richard (Garman) Garamond.
4. Johan Montague b: ABT 1542 in Boveney, Buckinghamshire, England. She married John Look.
5. Lawrence Montague b: 1545 in Boveney, Berkshire, England. He was the Vicar of Dorney, and married 1st to Joan Rackely and 2nd to Joan Rackley.
6. William Montague, of Boveny. b: 1548 in Boveney, Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England. He married Margaret Malthouse (dau. of John Malthouse of Binfield and Margaret Bullock).

Links

• http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/MONTAGUE.htm#Robert%20MONTAGUE%20of%20...
• http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=gnl1&id=I...
• http://shissem.com/Hissem_Boveney.html

Sources

1. Title: Ancestral File (R) Author: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Publication: Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998. Ancestral File #: 8J51-CW
2. Title: MONTAGUE.ged Text: Date of Import: Jul 21, 2000
3. Visitation of the county of Buckingham made in 1634

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The following notes are taken from the research of Susan P. Canney - smpcanney@hotmail.com - Rootsweb file:

"Robert's wife apparently predeceased him, as she is not named in his will. According to her grandson William, the informant of the 1634 visitation pedigree, Margaret's father was Roger Catton of 'Wardville,' Berkshire. The town is probably Warfield, only five miles southwest from Boveney.

Only one manor court roll has been found that mentions Robert. It is the Cippenham roll, dated 9 February 1572/3, and it has three relevant entries:

1. To this Court came Robert Mountagewe and Received from the Lord [of the Manor] one virgate of land [about 30 acres] called [?] Bouveis, formerly in the tenure of Willaam Ingby, to the said Robert Mountagewe and William Mountagewe his son and to Robert Mountagewe son of the same William for the term of their lives, Rendering therefore annually {?] fourteen Shillings [faded], And the aforesaid Robert Mountagewe gave to the Lord for a fine f10 and did fealty and they were admitted tenants thereof.

2. Robert Mountagewe de Boveney begged permission to lease all his customary lands which he held of the Lord by Copy of Court Roll in Boveney and Dorney to William Montagewe his son, and this was Granted.

3. Robert Mountagewe of Boveney received from the Lord one virgate of land called [?] Boll - and one close called [?] Mollyns Buttes, lying in Dorney and Boveney, to the said Robert Mountagewe and William Mountagewe his son and to Robert Mountagewe, son of the same William, for the terms of their lives, Rendering Annually to the Lord, eighteen shillings and sixpence, And the aforesaid Robert Mountagewe gave to the Lord for a fine f10 and did fealty and they were admitted tenants thereof.

On 7 September 1575 Robert spent hours with his friend Walter Dalye and detailed his last will and testament. His will is long and he named many family members. First was his eldest son William, then his other son Lawrence. Granddaughter Elizabeth, daughter of William, and 'the reste' of William's children, received the next bequest. Lawrence had been married for only a few months, so as yet had no children. Robert then named the children of his daughter who had married a man surnamed Hore. Following these were the children of his daughter Katheren, four by her first husband John Golding and one by her second husband Roger Lutman. Susan[?] Wheveld received the next bequest in the will, one comparable to those received by the grandchildren. She was likely a married granddaughter, but this is unascertained. Robert also named two more daughters: Johan and the children of her and her husband John Look, and Agnes with her husband Richard Garmond and their children.

Robert was buried in the Burnham churchyard on 19 January 1575/6. His heirs were in no rush for probate and waited to take care of the matter until spring. The date of probate was 18 May 1576."

Some notes on the connection between the Boveny Montagues and other Montagues in England: " Montacute is the Latin spelling of the English name Montague. The spelling of the names in this genealogy are those most encountered during the research. There is no doubt concerning the lineage of Robert Montague and Richard Montacute since they both bore the same Coat of Arms. The Coat of Arms of Montague - Boveney & Dorney - were: "Argent, three fusils in fess gules (red diamonds), between three pellets or ogresses (black discs) on a silver shield. The crest was a Golden Griffin with outstretched wings and a ribbon of alternate Red & White bands. The motto was "DISPONDEDO ME, NON MUTANDO ME". Reference: Edmondson's Heraldry & Burke's Encyclopedia of Heraldry. The three black ogresses were added to the Coat of Arms passed down by Sir Simon Montague to denote the Boveney & Dorney branches of the family. Other branches of the family made other alterations. o o<--Black The ogresses may have been added for differnce in a <--Red On Silver Shield family, or they may have been added to mark some deed o <--Black done at some time, such as a large donation of land to the church, as the church at Boveney bears such a record. Perhaps they may have been added as part of the maternal arms of William Montague, son of Robert, for his mother was Margaret, dau. of Roger Cotton. And the arms of one family of Cotton were, "Argent a bend Sable between three ogresses." Whatever may have been the origin of the pellets, the fact still remains, that the Boveney family bear the Arms of Sir Simon Montague of A.D. 1300, which arms were also born by his son lord William Montacute and by his grandson the first Earl of Salisbury. Heraldry, or more properly Armory, is the short hand of History, its purpose was to identify persons and property and to record descent and alliance. Hundreds of persons may be entitled to the same initials, may possess precicely the same names; but only the members of a particular family can lawfully bear certain armorial ensigns, and the various branches of even that family have their separate differances to distinguish one from the other. The Boveney family bear the same name as the descendants of Drogo. They were residing in A.D. 1500 in the same locality and country of England where the descendants of Drogo had held possessions and manors in A.D. 1400 and for centuries before. They bear the same Arms which alone would seem to silently but surely denote that they are a branch of the same family. Where and when the separation took place is not known, but it would seem probable that the Boveney branch left the main stream, after the year 1300 and before the year 1400, or between those dates, for their Coat of Arms was not in existance until adopted by Sir Simon Montacute A.D. 1300, and had they separated previous to that date, their Arms should have been "Azure a griffin segreant, Or." Again the Arms of the Montagues, after A.D. 1400, who were descended from the 3rd Earl of Salisbury, have been quartered with those of the Monthermers, which were "an eagle displayed, vert," while the Boveney branch retains the ancient shield of Sir Simon Montacute (1301). There are several places where such separation seems possible. The spelling change of the name seems to be consistant after Edward. Some list Edward as Montacute and others as Montague".