Roger van Gistel, heer van Beveren

Excuse me but just how can he be born "1338 when his father died 1346 it is not possible. 

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• Sir Roger van Ghistelles, Captain of Damme1,2,3
• M, #85796, d. after 1385
• Father Johann IV, Herr von Ghistelles1,2 d. 26 Aug 1346
• Mother Marie von Haveskerke1,2 b. c 1316, d. a 1350
• Sir Roger van Ghistelles, Captain of Damme married Maria van Lichtervelde; His 1st marriage.3 Sir Roger van Ghistelles, Captain of Damme and Elizabeth von Doornik obtained a marriage license on 13 August 1366.1,3 Sir Roger van Ghistelles, Captain of Damme died after 1385.3
• Family 1 Elizabeth von Doornik d. a 1357
• Children
  • Isabelle van Ghistelles+1,4,3 d. 1435
  • Johann I von Ghistelles, Herr zu Dudzele & Straeth+5 d. 1430
  • Marie de Ghistelles+6,3 d. a 1431
• Family 2 Maria van Lichtervelde d. 13 Aug 1366
• Citations
• 1.[S11569] Europaische Stammtafeln, by Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, Vol. VII, Tafel 96, 97.
• 2.[S2] Detlev Schwennicke, Europaische Stammtafeln, New Series, Vol. XXVII, Tafel 66.
• 3.[S2] Detlev Schwennicke, Europaische Stammtafeln, New Series, Vol. XXVII, Tafel 68.
• 4.[S2] Detlev Schwennicke, Europaische Stammtafeln, New Series, Vol. XXVII, Tafel 56.
• 5.[S11569] Europaische Stammtafeln, by Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, Vol. XII, Tafel 97.
• 6.[S11569] Europaische Stammtafeln, by Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, Vol. VII, Tafel 97.
• From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p2856.htm#... ________________________
• Roger de Ghistelles, seigneur de Dudzeele et de Straten[1, 2, 3]
• Born of, Dudzele, West Vlaanderen, Belgium
• Family Isabeau, dame de Dudzeele, of, Dudzele, West Vlaanderen, Belgium
• Children
  • 1. Marie de Ghistelles, dame de Zweveghen et de Rosebecque, b. Abt 1354, d. Aft 1431
  • 2. Isabelle de Ghistelles, b. Abt 1369, of, Dudzele, West Vlaanderen, Belgium , d. 1435, Schorisse, Oost Vlaanderen, Belgium
• Sources
• 1.[S16] #894 Cahiers de Saint-Louis (1976), Louis IX, Roi de France, (Angers: J. Saillot, 1976), FHL book 944 D22ds., vol. 2 p. 45.
• 2.[S7] #44 Histoire de la maison royale de France anciens barons du royaume: et des grands officiers de la couronne (1726, reprint 1967-1968), Saint-Marie, Anselme de, (3rd edition. 9 volumes. 1726. Reprint Paris: Editions du Palais Royal, 1967-1968), FHL book 944 D5a; FHL microfilms 532,231-532,239., vol. 3 p. 905.
• 3.[S39] Medieval, royalty, nobility family group sheets (filmed 1996), Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Family History Department. Medieval Family History Unit, (Manuscript. Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1996), FHL film 1553977-1553985.
• From: http://histfam.familysearch.org/getperson.php?personID=I20797&tree=... ___________________________

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1. JEAN de Gavre (-1301). Goethals confuses him with Jan van Gavre “van den Eyghen”, son of Raso [X] van Gavre Heer van Liedekerke (see below)[562]. Heer van Schorisse [Seigneur d’Escornaix]. An epitaph at Oudenaarde records the burial of “Jan de Gavre sire d’Escornaij” who died 1301 [?] and “Willemine de Wavrin sa femme”[563]. m WILHELMINE de Wavrin, daughter of ROBERT [III Seigneur de Wavrin] & his wife Isabelle de Croisilles. Guy Count of Flanders granted revenue from “la terre de Wavrin, appartenante à ladite Wilhelmine” to “Jean de Gavre Sire d’Escornay et à madame Willelmine sa femme” by charter dated 17 Oct 1298[564]. An epitaph at Oudenaarde records the burial of “Jan de Gavre sire d’Escornaij” who died 1301 [?] and “Willemine de Wavrin sa femme”[565]. Jean & his wife had children: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLEMISH%20NOBILITY.htm#ArnaudGavre...

a) ARNAUD de Gavre (-after 31 Mar 1336) son of JEAN de Gavre Seigneur d’Escornaix & his wife Wilhelmine de Wavrin (-after 31 Mar 1336). Goethals records his parentage without citing any source which confirms the information [567]. Heer van Schorisse [Seigneur d’Escornaix]. An epitaph at Oudenaarde records the burial of “Arnout de Gavre chlr seigneur d’Escornaij” who died 18 Sep 1316 [?] and “Cathelijne de Rode dame d’Escornaij et d’Asschove” who died 12 Mar 1314 [?][568].

m CATHERINE de Rodes, daughter of ---. Goethals records her family origin and marriage without citing any source which confirms the information [569]. An epitaph at Oudenaarde records the burial of “Arnout de Gavre chlr seigneur d’Escornaij” who died 18 Sep 1316 [?] and “Cathelijne de Rode dame d’Escornaij et d’Asschove” who died 12 Mar 1314 [?][570]. Arnaud & his wife had children: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLEMISH%20NOBILITY.htm#ArnaudGavre...

1. ARNAUD de Gavre (-1 May 1418). Goethals records his parentage without citing any source which confirms the information [571]. Baron d’Escornaix 1378. m ELISABETH van Gistel, daughter of ROGER van Gistel Heer van Straete & his wife Elisabeth [Margareta van Dudzeele] (-after 1398). Goethals records her parentage and marriage without citing any source which confirms the information[572]. A charter dated 1398 names “vrauwe Ysabel van Ghistele, twijf mins heere van Schorsche” as holder of “Ter Quinten” in Sint-Walburga parish, held from Veurne[573]. Arnaud & his wife had children: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLEMISH%20NOBILITY.htm#ArnaudGavre...