Saher/Saier/Saer Quincey, 1st Earl of Winchester Saher de Quincey 1155 - 1219 1st Earl of Winchester and Crusader died in Palestine's. m Margaret de Beaumont in 1173. 

Their children included:

• Robert (1st son of this name, d. 1217), before 1206 he married Hawise of Chester, Countess of Lincoln, sister and co-heiress of Ranulf de Blundeville, Earl of Chester.
• Lora/ Loretta 1180 who married Sir William de Valognes, Chamberlain of Scotland
• John 1182
• Reginald 1184
• Beatrice 1185
• Arabella 1186 - 1258 who married Sir Richard Harcourt
• Roger 1190- 1264, who succeeded his father as 2nd Earl of Winchester (though he did not take formal possession of the earldom until after his mother's death); m. Helen of Galloway d1246.m.Matilda d1252 m. Eleanor
• Robert (second son of that name; 1186-1257, went with father to the Crusades) who married Helen, daughter of the Welsh prince Llywelyn the Great.
• Hawise, who married Hugh de Vere, 4th Earl of Oxford.

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Saer de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester (1155 – 3 November 1219) (or Saieur di Quinci[1]) was one of the leaders of the baronial rebellion against King John of England, and a major figure in both Scotland and England in the decades around the turn of the twelfth and thirteenth centuries.

Scottish Upbringing

Saer de Quincy's immediate background was in the Scottish kingdom: his father, Robert de Quincy, was a knight in the service of king William the Lion, and his mother Orabilis was the heiress of the lordship of Leuchars in Fife (see below). His rise to prominence in England came through his marriage to Margaret, the younger sister of Robert de Beaumont, 4th Earl of Leicester: but it is probably no coincidence that her other brother was the de Quincys' powerful Fife neighbour, Roger de Beaumont, Bishop of St Andrews. In 1204, Earl Robert died, leaving Margaret as co-heiress to the vast earldom along with her elder sister. The estate was split in half, and after the final division was ratified in 1207, de Quincy was made Earl of Winchester.

Earl of Winchester

Following his marriage, de Quincy became a prominent military and diplomatic figure in England. There is no evidence of any close alliance with King John, however, and his rise to importance was probably due to his newly-acquired magnate status and the family connections that underpinned it.

One man with whom he does seem to have developed a close personal relationship is his cousin, Robert Fitzwalter (d. 1235). They are first found together in 1203, as co-commanders of the garrison at the major fortress of Vaudreuil in Normandy; they were responsible for surrendering the castle without a fight to Philip II of France, fatally weakening the English position in northern France. Although popular opinion seems to have blamed them for the capitulation, a royal writ is extant stating that the castle was surrendered at King John's command, and both Saer and Fitzwalter had to endure personal humiliation and heavy ransoms at the hands of the French.

In Scotland, he was perhaps more successful. In 1211 to 1212, the Earl of Winchester commanded an imposing retinue of a hundred knights and a hundred serjeants in William the Lion's campaign against the Mac William rebels, a force which some historians have suggested may have been the mercenary force from Brabant lent to the campaign by John.

Magna Carta

In 1215, when the baronial rebellion broke out, Robert Fitzwalter became the military commander, and the Earl of Winchester joined him, acting as one of the chief negotiators with John; both cousins were among the 25 guarantors of the Magna Carta. De Quincy fought against John in the troubles that followed the signing of the Charter, and, again with Fitzwalter, travelled to France to invite Prince Louis of France to take the English throne. He and Fitzwalter were subsequently among the most committed and prominent supporters of Louis' candidature for the kingship, against both John and the infant Henry III.

The Fifth Crusade

When military defeat cleared the way for Henry III to take the throne, de Quincy went on crusade, perhaps in fulfillment of an earlier vow. In 1219 he left to join the Fifth Crusade, then besieging Damietta. While in the east, he fell sick and died. He was buried in Acre, the capital of the Kingdom of Jerusalem, rather than in Egypt, and his heart was brought back and interred at Garendon Abbey near Loughborough, a house endowed by his wife's family.

Family

The family of de Quincy had arrived in England after the Norman Conquest, and took their name from Cuinchy in the Arrondissement of Béthune; the personal name "Saer" was used by them over several generations. Both names are variously spelled in primary sources and older modern works, the first name being sometimes rendered Saher or Seer, and the surname as Quency or Quenci.

The first recorded Saer de Quincy (known to historians as "Saer I") was lord of the manor of Long Buckby in Northamptonshire in the earlier twelfth century, and second husband of Matilda of St Liz, stepdaughter of King David I of Scotland by Maud of Northumbria. This marriage produced two sons, Saer II and Robert de Quincy. It was Robert, the younger son, who was the father of the Saer de Quincy who eventually became Earl of Winchester. By her first husband Robert Fitz Richard, Maud was also the paternal grandmother of Earl Saer's close ally, Robert Fitzwalter.

Robert de Quincy seems to have inherited no English lands from his father, and pursued a knightly career in Scotland, where he is recorded from around 1160 as a close companion of his cousin, King William the Lion. By 1170 he had married Orabilis, heiress of the Scottish lordship of Leuchars and, through her, he became lord of an extensive complex of estates north of the border which included lands in Fife, Strathearn and Lothian.

Saer de Quincy, the son of Robert de Quincy and Orabilis of Leuchars, was raised largely in Scotland. His absence from English records for the first decades of his life has led some modern historians and genealogists to confuse him with his uncle, Saer II, who took part in the rebellion of Henry the Young King in 1173, when the future Earl of Winchester can have been no more than a toddler. Saer II's line ended without direct heirs, and his nephew and namesake would eventually inherit his estate, uniting his primary Scottish holdings with the family's Northamptonshire patrimony, and possibly some lands in France.

Issue

By his wife Margaret de Beaumont, Saer de Quincy had three sons and three daughters:

• Lora who married Sir William de Valognes, Chamberlain of Scotland
• Arabella who married Sir Richard Harcourt
• Robert (d. 1217), before 1206 he married Hawise of Chester, Countess of Lincoln, sister and co-heiress of Ranulf de Blundeville, Earl of Chester.
• Roger, who succeeded his father as earl of Winchester (though he did not take formal possession of the earldom until after his mother's death);
• Robert de Quincy (second son of that name; d. 1257) who married Helen, daughter of the Welsh prince Llywelyn the Great;
• Hawise, who married Hugh de Vere, 4th Earl of Oxford.

Preceded by New Creation Earl of Winchester Succeeded by Roger de Quincy

References

1^ Leuchars St Athernase website

Background Reading

• Medieval Lands Project on Saher de Quincy
• "Winchester", in The Complete Peerage, ed. G.E.C., xii. 745-751
• Sidney Painter, "The House of Quency, 1136-1264", Medievalia et Humanistica, 11 (1957) 3-9; reprinted in his book Feudalism and Liberty
• Grant G. Simpson, “An Anglo-Scottish Baron of the Thirteenth century: the Acts of Roger de Quincy Earl of Winchester and Constable of Scotland” (Unpublished PhD Thesis, Edinburgh 1963).
• Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700 (7th Edition, 1992,), 58-60.

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Saher had three sons and three daughters.

Sons:

1. Robert d. 1217, m. Hawise Meschines of Chester. Hawise is the heiress to Lincolnshire, and their only child is their daughter Margaret de Quincy, Countess of Lincolnshire.

2. Roger d.1265 m1. Helen of Galloway, m2. Maud de Bohun, m3. Eleanor Ferrers. His only children were three daughters by Helen of Galloway. They are Helen/Ela/Elean m. Alan Zouche; Elizabeth/Isabella m. Alexander Comyn; and Margaret m. William Ferrers.

3. Robert d. 1257 (yes, two Robert's) m. Helen/Elen verch Llewelyn.

Confusions

Robert d. 1217/ Roger d. 1265/Robert d. 1257

Helen of Galloway and Elen verch Llewelyn

Margaret de Quincy of Lincolnshire daughter of Robert d. 1217 and Margaret de Quincy m. William de Ferrers daughter of Roger d. 1265.

src: wikipedia.

Saire de Quincy was 2nd Baron de Quincy of Bushby and 1st Earl of Winchester. He is believed to have been an author of the Magna Carta,which he signed in 1215. His younger brother, Robert, d. 1217, was a crusader, and m. Hawise of Chester (1180-1242/3, Countess of Lincoln).Saire de Quincy "at length in a pious expedition to the Holy Land, he was at the siege of Damietta in 1219 and died in his farther journey towards Jerusalem." - T.C.Banks, "Dormant and Extinct Peerage of England"(London, 1809, vol. III). "Ancestral Roots..." (Balt., 1992) 53-27 state she is "grandson of Maud de St. Liz by her 2nd husb., Saher de Quincy of Buckley and Daventry." -

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http://www.theharmons.us/harmon_t/b1472.htm#P49129

Saher (Saire) IV de QUINCY 1st Earl Wincester was born in 1155 in of Winchester, Hampshire, Eng.562,3489,3492 He died on 3 November 1219 in Damietta, Palestine (Way to Holy Land).562,3489,3492 He was buried in November 1219 in Acre, Palestine. Saher has Ancestral File Number 9G80-MC. MISC: Earl of Wincester, Magna Carta Surety, 1215, Crusader 1219 (son of Robert de Quincy, d . ca. 1198), Lord of Buckley and of Fawside, Crusader; m. Orabella, dau. of Ness; and grandso n of Maud de St. Liz by her 2nd husb., Saher de Quincy of Buckley and Daventy. He was a Baro n present at Lincoln when WILLIAM the Lion of Scotland did homage to the English monarch in O ct. 1200. He obtained large grants and immunities form King JOHN and was created Earl of Win chester on 2 Mar 1207, having been governor in 1203 of the Castle of Ruil in Normandy. He i s credited with rewriting the Magna Charta from the Charts of King HENRY I and the Saxon Code . Because he had opposed the King's concession to Pope's legate, he was bitterly hated by Kin g JOHN. One of the Barons to whom the City and Tower of London were resigned, SAIRE was exc ommunicated with the other Barons the following year. He was sent, with ROBERT FITZWALTER, t he Surety, by the other Barons, to invite the Dauphin of France to assume the Crown of Englan d and, even after the death of King JOHN, he kept a strong garrison in Montsorell Castle in b ehalf of Prince LOUIS. When the Barons, being greatly outnumbered, were defeated by the troo ps of King HENRY III, SAIRE was made prisoner and his estates were forfeited. In the followi ng Oct. his immense estates were restored upon his submission. In 1218 the Earl of Wincheste r went with the Earls of Chester and Arundel to the Holy Land, assisted at the siege of Damie tta in 1219, and died on 3 Nov of the same year, on the way to Jerusalem.

SAIRE is associated with two stalwart Castles in the South of England: Colchester and Winches ter, both with the Latin "castrum" root, signifying that they were once the sites of Roman fo rts. Colchester was the largest Norman keep in England. It measures one hundred fifty-two b y one hundred seventeeen feet, enclosing nearly twice the area of the Tower of London. Its w alls vary between eleven and thirty feet in thickness. Winchester Castle was first erected b y WILLIAM the Conqueror with later alterations by HENRY III.

Earl of Manchester and signer of the Magna Charta.MISC: Saier de Quincy was created Earl o f Winchester by King John about the year 1210. This nobleman was one of the lords present a t Lincoln when William, King of Scotland, did homage to the English monarch, and he subsequen tly obtained large grants and immunities from King John; when, however, the baronial war brok e out, his lordship's pennant waved on the side of freedom and he became so eminent amongst t hose sturdy chiefs that he was chosen one of the celebrated twenty-five barons appointed to e nforce the observance of Magna Carta. Adhering to the same party after the accession of Henr y III, the Earl of Winchester had a principal command at the battle of Lincoln and, there bei ng defeated, was taken prisoner by the royalists. But submitting in the following October, h e had restitution of all his lands and proceeded soon after, in company with the Earls of Che ster and Arundel and others of the nobility, to the Holy Land where he assisted at the sieg e of Damietta, anno 1219, and d. the same year in his progress towards Jerusalem. His lordsh ip m. Margaret, younger sister and co-heir of Robert Fitz-Parnell, Earl of Leicester, by whic h alliance he acquired a very considerable inheritance, and had issue, Robert, Roger, and Rob ert. At the decease of the earl, his 2nd son, Roger de Quincy, had livery of his father's es tates.

[Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd. , London, England, 1883, p. 447, Quincy, Earls of Winchester]Saier de Quincy was created Ear l of Winchester by King John about the year 1210. This nobleman was one of the lords presen t at Lincoln when William, King of Scotland, did homage to the English monarch, and he subseq uently obtained large grants and immunities from King John; when, however, the baronial war b roke out, his lordship's pennant waved on the side of freedom and he became so eminent amongs t those sturdy chiefs that he was chosen one of the celebrated twenty-five barons appointed t o enforce the observance of Magna Carta. Adhering to the same party after the accession of He nry III, the Earl of Winchester had a principal command at the battle of Lincoln and, there b eing defeated, was taken prisoner by the royalists. But submitting in the following October , he had restitution of all his lands and proceeded soon after, in company with the Earls o f Chester and Arundel and others of the nobility, to the Holy Land where he assisted at the s iege of Damietta, anno 1219, and d. the same year in his progress towards Jerusalem. His lord ship m. Margaret, younger sister and co-heir of Robert Fitz-Parnell, Earl of Leicester, by wh ich alliance he acquired a very considerable inheritance, and had issue, Robert, Roger, and R obert. At the decease of the earl, his 2nd son, Roger de Quincy, had livery of his father's e states.

[Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd. , London, England, 1883, p. 447, Quincy, Earls of Winchester]

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Saier de Quincy was created Earl of Winchester by King John about the year 1210. This nobleman was one of the lords present at Lincoln when William, King of Scotland, did homage to th e English monarch, and he subsequently obtained large grants and immunities from King John; w hen, however, the baronial war broke out, his lordship's pennant waved on the side of freedom and he became so eminent amongst those sturdy chiefs that he was chosen one of the celebrated twenty-five barons appointed to enforce the observance of Magna Carta. Adhering to the same party after the accession of Henry III, the Earl of Winchester had a principal command at the battle of Lincoln and, there being defeated, was taken prisoner by the royalists. But submitting in the following October, he had restitution of all his lands and proceeded soon after, in company with the Earls of Chester and Arundel and others of the nobility, to the Holy Land where he assisted at the siege of Damietta, anno 1219, and d. the same year in his progress towards Jerusalem. His lordship m. Margaret, younger sister and co-heir of Robert Fitz-Parnell, Earl of Leicester, by which alliance he acquired a very considerable inheritance, and had issue, Robert, Roger, and Robert. At the decease of the earl, his 2nd son, Roger de Quincy, had livery of his father's estates.

[Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd. , London, England, 1883, p. 447, Quincy, Earls of Winchester]

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Parents: Robert de QUINCY Sir Knight/Lord Buckley and Orabella (Orabilis) de LEUCHARS Ctss Mar.

Children were: Robert QUINCY.

Spouse: Margaret FitzPernel de BEAUMONT DE HARCOURT. Margaret FitzPernel de BEAUMONT DE HARCOURT and Saher (Saire) IV de QUINCY 1st Earl Wincester were married before 1173 in Eng (Her 1st Marr.).562 Children were: Roger de QUINCY 2nd Earl Winchester, John de QUINCY, Reginald de QUINCY, Orabella (Arabella) de QUINCY, Robert "The Younger" de QUINCY Earl Lincoln, Hawise de QUINCY.

Saire - 1st Earl of Winchester.

Was a Baron present at Lincoln when William the Lion of Scotland did homage to the English monarch in October 1200. He obtained large grants and immunities from King John and was created Earl of Winchester, 2 March 1207, having been governor in 1203 of the Castle of Ruil in Normandy. He is created with rewriting Magna Charta from the Charter of King Henry I and the Saxon Code. Because he had opposed the King’s concession to the Pope’s legate, he was bitterly hated by King John. One of the Barons to whom the City and Tower of London were resigned, Saire de Quincey was excommunicated with the other Barons the following year. 

He was sent, with Robert Fitzwalter, the Surety, by the other Barons, to invite the Dauphin of France to assume the Crown of England and, even after the death of King John, he kept a strong garrison in Montsorell Castle in behalf of Prince Louis. When the Barons, being greatly outnumbered, were defeated by the troops of King Henry III, Saire de Quincey, with many others, was made prisoner and his estates forfeited. In the following October his immense estates were restored upon his submission. In 1218 the Earl of Winchester went with the Earls of Chester and Arundel to the Holy Land, assisted at the siege of Damietta in 1219, and died 3 November in the same year, on the way to Jerusalem.

Saire de Quincey is associated with two stalwart Castles in the South of England: Colchester Castle and Winchester Castle, both with the Latin castrum root, signifying that they were once the site of Roman forts

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Saher III de Quency, the Surety, 1st Earl of Winchester, was 15th in descent from Alfred the Great.

He married Margaret de Beaumont, Countess of Winchester, daughter of Robert III de Beaumont, 3rd Earl of Leicester and Petronilla de Grentesmesnil, circa 1173 in England.

Saher was a Magna Carta Surety and is noted as one of the more militarily capable barons... "At the beginning of John’s reign, Saire de Quincey was not a Baron, much less a great one. In the civil war the King had had the advantage over the rebels. Few of the Barons had had much actual military experience. The Barons’ contribution to the war was the scutage they paid, a war fund substituted for the contingent of knights owed to the King’s service. The money was collected from vassals, and mercenary knights were paid from it. Many of the mercenaries were regulars who served the same Baron from campaign to campaign, but those Barons who are known to have had extensive military experience were only Saire de Quincey, Robert FitzWalter, William de Mowbray, William d’Albini, Roger de Cressi and Robert de Roos." Saher was at the signing of the Magna Carta on 15 June 1215 at Runnymede, between Windsor and Staines, in Surrey.

Saher was excommunicated by the Pope in 1216. "Saire de Quincey was excommunicated with the other Barons the following year. He was sent, with Robert FitzWalter, the Surety, by the other Barons, to invite the Dauphin of France to assume the Crown of England and, even after the death of King John, he kept a strong garrison in Montsorell Castle in behalf of Prince Louis. When the Barons, being greatly outnumbered, were defeated by the troops of King Henry III [our ancestor, who was a baby at the time], Saire de Quincey, with many others, was made prisoner and his estates forfeited. In the following October his immense estates were restored upon his submission."

Saher lost the Castle of Montserol to William Marshall in 1217.

Saher was a Crusader who rendered valuable service at the Siege of Damietta in 1218 (1219?). Saher died on 3 November 1219 in Palestine at the age of 64 years, while en route to Jerusalem.

See "My Lines"

( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/p387.htm#i6934 )

from Compiler: R. B. Stewart, Evans, GA

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1st Earl of Winchester - died during the Fifth Crusade

Saher (Saire) deQuincy was among the barons, including Robert de Vere, Hugh Bigod, William Longspée and William Marshall, who forced the signing of Magna Charta by King John. De Quincy is credited with creating the form and final draft of the Magna Charta. "If Saire de Quincy was responsible for the form of the Charter, he deserves more credit than he has ever been given, and a permanent place among those who have contributed to the liberties of mankind." (Costain, The Conquering Family [see ref. 2 below).

SAIRE de QUINCEY, the Surety, born before 1154, was a Baron present at Lincoln when William the Lion of Scotland did homage to the English monarch in October 1200. He obtained large grants and immunities from King John and was created Earl of Winchester, 2 March 1207, having been governor in 1203 of the Castle of Ruil in Normandy. He is created with rewriting Magna Charta from the Charter of King Henry I and the Saxon Code. Because he had opposed the King’s concession to the Pope’s legate, he was bitterly hated by King John. One of the Barons to whom the City and Tower of London were resigned, Saire de Quincey was excommunicated with the other Barons the following year. He was sent, with Robert FitzWalter, the Surety, by the other Barons, to invite the Dauphin of France to assume the Crown of England and, even after the death of King John, he kept a strong garrison in Montsorell Castle in behalf of Prince Louis. When the Barons, being greatly outnumbered, were defeated by the troops of King Henry III, Saire de Quincey, with many others, was made prisoner and his estates forfeited. In the following October his immense estates were restored upon his submission. In 1218 the Earl of Winchester went with the Earls of Chester and Arundel to the Holy Land, assisted at the siege of Damietta in 1219, and died 3 November in the same year, on the way to Jerusalem. His wife was Margaret Beaumont, whom he married before 1173.

At the beginning of John’s reign, Saire de Quincey was not a Baron, much less a great one. In the civil war the King had had the advantage over the rebels. Few of the Barons had had much actual military experience. The Barons’ contribution to the war was the scutage they paid, a war fund substituted for the contingent of knights owed to the King’s service. The money was collected from vassals, and mercenary knights were paid from it. Many of the mercenaries were regulars who served the same Baron from campaign to campaign, but those Barons who are known to have had extensive military experience were only Saire de Quincey, Robert FitzWalter, William de Mowbray, William d’Albini, Roger de Cressi and Robert de Roos.

Saire de Quincey is associated with two stalwart Castles in the South of England: Colchester and Winchester, both with the Latin castrum root, signifying that they were once the site of Roman forts.

Colchester Castle could not have been built before the early 12th Century, though Roman materials may have been re-used in its construction. The keep, the only portion now surviving, is in complete harmony with other Norman castles. Colchester must have been a formidable stronghold, and a challenge to Saire de Quincey. The King's men held the Castle against Quincey, the first Earl to attack Colchester. John had given the fortress into the charge of a Fleming whom he thought he could trust. But Quincey took the Castle, and later found holding it more difficult. The fighting was of such a nature that John himself came to Colchester to see just how stubborn Saire de Quincey was. The Earl held the Castle for two months, but lack of food forced him to give up and take flight to France.

Colchester was the largest Norman keep in England. It measures one hundred fifty-two by one hundred seventeen feet, enclosing nearly twice the area of the Tower of London. Its walls vary between eleven and thirty feet in thickness. It was erected either by William the Conqueror or by William II. It is of the quadrangular variety, turreted at the corners. In it and elsewhere herringbone masonry has been noted.

Winchester Castle was first erected by William the Conqueror. Later alterations and extra height were added by Henry III, about the year 1138. The great Hall has Purbeck columns of 13th Century architecture, supporting a restored roof and containing handsome windows of the same approximate period. Only the keep remains. "How commonplace this saying, 'Only the keep still stands,' . . . thanks to the old builders who made the keep strong and high to withstand time, and so difficult to tear down that it escaped the looters of the ages." Perhaps Murphy was thinking of Colchester or Winchester when he thus wrote, for this was the fate of the Quincey strongholds.

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1st Earl of Winchester

Saher de Quincy was one of the 25 sureties of the Magna Charta, for which he was excommunicated. He was frequently at odds with King John. In 1203, Saher de Quincy and Robert Fitz Walter were in charge of the Castle of Ruil in France which they surrendered to the King of France without putting up much resistance. When King John attempted to welsh on the Magna Charta in 1216, Saher de Quincy was among the deputation that invited Louis the Dauphin to invade England. He continued to support Louis after King John's death and was eventually taken prisoner by the victorious forces of King Henry III in May 1217. However, he made amends and had his lands restored by October 1217. In 1219, he sailed with Robert Fitz Walter and others on the Fifth Crusade. He fell ill at Damietta, Egypt and died there on November 3, 1219. Saher de Quincy was buried at Acre.

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From http://www.rpi.edu/~holmes/Hobbies/Genealogy/ps04/ps04_228.htm

Saire de Quincy was 2nd Baron de Quincy of Bushby and 1st Earl of Winchester. He is believed to have been an author of the Magna Carta, which he signed in 1215. His younger brother, Robert, d. 1217, was a crusader, and m. Hawise of Chester (1180-1242/3, Countess of Lincoln). Saire de Quincy "at length in a pious expedition to the Holy Land, he was at the siege of Damieta in 1219 and died in his farther journey towards Jerusalem." - T.C.Banks, "Dormant and Extinct Peerage of England" (London, 1809, vol. III). "Ancestral Roots..." (Balt., 1992) 53-27 states he is "grandson of Maud de St. Liz by her 2nd husb., Saher de Quincy of Buckley and Daventry." - see ID8202.

He was one of the barons present at Lincoln, when William "the Lion" of Scotland did homage to the English king in Oct., 1200. He subsequently obtained large grants and immunities from King John, and was created Earl of Winchester, on Mar. 20, 1207, having been, in 1203, governor of the castle of Ruil, in Normandy. He was one of the Barons to contend for the Charter of Liberty, and is credited with having re-written it from the Charter of Henry I, and the Saxon Code, and, opposing the king's concession to the Papl legate, had the bitter hatred of King John, and was very active in the conferences between the barons and the king. But, though the king made him, in 1215, governor of Mountsorell Castle, he was one of the barons to whom the city and Tower of London were resigned, and elected one of the 25 barons who were to enforce the Magna Charta and govern the kingdom, being excommunicated with the other barons in the following year. He was sent, with Robert fitz Walter, the Surety, by the other barons to invite the Dauphin of France to assume the crown of England, and, even after the death of King John, he kept a strong garrison in Mountsorell Castle, on behalf of Prince Louis. The fortress being beseiged and nearly captured by a division of the troops of Henry III, he and Prince Louis gathered a large force in London, and having raised the seige, marched to Lincoln, then also surrounded by the king's army. In the general battle that followed, the barons were defeated, being greatly outnumbered, and Saire, with many others, was made prisoner, and his estates forfeited. In the following Oct., his immense estates were restored upon his submission.

In 1218, he went with the Earls of Chester and Arundel to the Holy Land, and assisted at the seige of Damietta, in 1219, and died in the progress toward Jerusalem. He was buried at Acre, in the Holy Land.

References: [MCS4],[RoyalAAF],[AR7],[ES],[CP],[PlantagenetA], [WallopFH],[Paget1],[BurkeP]

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Mini Biographies

"Earl of Winchester, of Long Buckby, Northamptonshire and Leuchard and Travernent, Scotland. In right of his wife, of Brckley, Northamptonshire.

Son and heir to Sir Robert de Quincy, knight in the service of King William the Lion and Orabillia of Leuchars, heiress of the lordship of Leuchars in Fife. He was born about 1155 and raised in Scotland.

Saher married Margaret de Beaumont, the daughter of Sir Robert de Beaumont and Petronilla Grandmesnil and the younger sister of Robert de Beaumont, 4th Earl of Leicester and the Quincy's Fife ally and neighbor, Roger de Beaumont, Bishop of St Andrews. They were married before 1173 and had the following children:
Lorette m William de Valognes
Arabella m Sir Robert Harcourt Robert de Quincy m Hawise of Chester, Countess of Lincoln Roger de Quincy m Helen de Galloway Robert de Quincy m Helen Llywelyn, dtr of Llywelyn the Great Hawise de Quincy m Hugh de Vere

When Robert died in 1204, he made Margaret a co-heiress of the vast earldom along with her elder sister, Amicia, who married Simon de Montfort. When the inheritance was settled in 1207, Saher became the Earl of Winchester.

Saher took part in the 1173 rebellion of young king Henry against his father, King Henry II, and became the castellan (castle captain or governor) of Nonancourt on the Aure in 1180. Saher was with King Richard at Roche d'Orval in August 1198, and was with William the Lion, King of Scotland when he paid homage to King John in 1200. Saher and Sir Robert FitzWalter were joint castellans of Vaudreuil Castle in France, 1203, but surrendered it to the French before they were attacked. Saher and Robert were imprisoned by the French king Phillip Augustus at Compiegne until they were freed by a £5000 ransom. Saher witnessed King John's surrender of his crown to the Pope 1213, took the cross 04 March 1215, and was one of the twenty five barons elected to guarantee the provisions of the Magna Carta.

Saher was sent with Sir Robert FitzWalter to offer the English crown to Prince Louis of France, after which they returned with fourty-two ships full of French knights and followers. After Henry III stepped down, Saher remained loyal to Louis. Mountsorrell Castle was beseiged by the King Henry III's royal army, Saher and FitzWalter were defeated despite Louis sending reinforcements, taken prisoner at Lincoln 20 May 1217, but restored to his lands in October, leaving Saher to fulfill his crusader's vow.

In 1219, Saher left to join the Fifth Crusade which was actively attacking Damietta. While in the Holy Land, he fell sick and died. He was buried in Acre, the capital of the Kingdom of Jerusalem, rather than in Egypt, and his heart was brought back and interred at Garendon Abbey near Loughborough, a house endowed by his wife's family."