Sir John Doddiscombe, of Compton Pole

Biography

Source: genealogics.org

Sir John de Doddiscombe held Doddiscombe, Doddiscombsleigh (Legh, Legh Peverel), Rifton in Stoodleigh (Reston), Rawston in Bishop's Nympton (Reston, Retton), Lower Yalberton and Watton (Allebourn et Wadeton), Lowton Peverel (Lughedon), and Compton Pole, all in county Devon.

The manor of 'Legh' or 'Leigh' as it was anciently known was called Legh Peverel when owned by the Peverel family, however, when it came to the Doddiscombe family by marriage it became known as Doddiscombsleigh. He is the presumed son of Ralph de Doddiscombe by Joan Peverel, who held Compton Pole, Lowton Peverel and Yalberton and Watton in the Feudal Aids of 1303. Reston in 1346 was held by the heirs of John de Dodyscomb and this same John held it in 1303.

John de Dodescumbe was appointed as an attorney for the archdeacon of Exeter on 18 December 1307. He presented to Doddiscombsleigh on 1309. He was the collector of the 'tenth and sixth' tax of 1322.

He was last known living 14 June 1339 when he appears as a witness on a grant. He was dead by the time of the 1346 Feudal assessment when his property is given as held by his wife Cecily or by the heirs of John Doddiscombe. It was Cecily who presented at Doddiscombsleiugh on 8 December 1347 and again on 5 February 1349. She was dead by 23 March 1363 when John de Newenham had the next presentation at Doddiscombsleigh.

Timeline

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Doddiscombe-5

Birth

Born: Before 1282.

John Doddiscombe was an adult and held extensive lands in the Feudal Aids survey in 1303. The 1346 survey specifies these the lands held by the widow of John Dodiscombe in 1346 were held by the SAME John Doddiscombe in 1303.

Marriage and Children

Marrried: Cicely Unknown.

Children of John Doddiscombe:

John Doddiscombe left five daughters as co-heiresses, all of whom can be traced as the ancestors of the current royal family of England.

1. Agnes Doddiscombe, m1. William Gorges (no issue) m. Adam Branscombe m3. Richard Champernon of
2. Alice Doddiscombe. m. Sir William Bigbury
3. Cecily Doddiscombe, m1. Simon de Newenham m2. Sir John Worthe
4. Emma Doddiscombe. m. John Pollard
5. Joan Doddiscombe. m. Nicholas Tremayne (disputed)

Death

Died: Between 14 June 1339 and 1346.

He was last known living 14 June 1339 when he appears as a witness on a grant.[3] He was dead by the time of the 1346 Feudal Aid assessment when his property is given as held by his wife Cecily or by the heirs of John Doddiscombe. It was Cecily who presented at Doddiscombsleigh on 8 December 1347 and again on 5 Feb. 1349.[4][5] She was dead by 23 March 1363 when John de Newenham had the next presentation at Doddiscombsleigh.[6]

Research notes

Dates:

• - John Doddiscombe was an adult by 1303.
  • - Agnes (1330)
    • - Ibote Branscombe (1355)
    • - Robert Britt (1380)
      • - Margaret born 1406; Elizabeth born 1410

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From: Ken Ozanne <kenozanne@bordernet.com.au> Subject: Re: Doddiscombe Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:24:24 +1000 In-Reply-To: <200604071219.k37CJCM3006995@lists2.rootsweb.com>

Dear List, I'm not sure anyone is interested, but I did turn up a bit more about this family.

There was one reference in A2A:

FILE - PAIGNTON - ref. 50/11/43/5 - date: 19 March 1304 32 Edward I

Scope and Content

Quitclaim William de Aleborne to Philip Rurde of Dertemue Lands and tenements of Aleborne in the manor of Peyngton', of which the said Philip was seised by virtue of the King's Statute of Merchants issued at Acton' Burnel for £8 owing him by said William; To hold for ever of the chief lords of the fee. Witnesses: Ralph de Doddescomb', William de Peneylles, John de Hakeworthy, Henry de Lappeflode, John de Bynnelegh'. Date: Exeter, Thursday next after the feast of St. Gregory the Pope, 32 Edward. Seals: All five witnesses, as well as William de Aleborne, appended their seals. Only four seals, and the fragment of a fifth, remain.

In absence of another candidate, I'd be inclined to put that Ralph Doddiscombe as father of John. I have lots of dates for John from various websites but they are mostly contradictory. Most sheriffs of Devon seem to have died soon after being appointed so I don't believe this one could be the Ralph who was sheriff 44 Hen III. Possibly his son.

It appears that John had 5 daughters - Emma, Cicely, Alice, Joan and one whose name I don't know. Cicely married Simon Newnham, son of John de Plympton and he apparently adopted the Doddiscombe arms. Joan married Nicholas Tremayne about 1400. Both of those marriages come from Ancient West Country Families. Emma married John Pollard of Waye according to both the 1564 and 1620 Devon Visitations. Alice married William Bykeberry according to an undocumented website that also gives John Doddiscombe's wife as Cecily and has both of them living 1326. It is possible that the 5th daughter was the Agnes mentioned in my earlier post.

It seems odd to me that we know so little about a family who produced a sheriff of Devon. Also one that appears among the ancestry of Oliver Mainwaring (Manwaring).

Best, Ken

I wrote:
Dear List,
It seems to be agreed that Emma (Emne) Doddiscombe married John
Pollard of Waye sometime in the early 1400s. It is also known that her
father was Sir John Doddiscombe. I've seen a couple of attempts at his wife,
one of them Cecilia unknown, the other Joanna Peveril. No source worth
noting for either.
That much has appeared here before (in 1996) as has an Agnes
Doddescombe who married a Branscombe (from memory) but not clear where she
fits in otherwise.
It doesn't seem to have been mentioned that there was a Sir Ralph
Doddescombe sheriff of Devon 44 Hen III. (I took that from Tristram Risdon's
list, given that the Chorographic Survey of Devon is currently available for
free viewing.) Back in 1996 Todd mentioned that a Ralph Doddescombe was
alive in 1241, presumably the same man.
Does anyone know any more?

Added by Janet Milburn from RootsWeb Gen Medieval

References

1. http://adupree.com/wp/g/getperson.php?personID=I397833&tree=adupree
2. https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00431318&tree=LEO cites
   1. [S01518] Visitations of the County of Cornwall for 1530, 1573 and 1620 , Vivian, J. L. 616 (biographical details Joe Cochoit)
   2. [S01327] Visitations of the County of Devon 1531, 1564 and 1620 Published 1895, Vivian, J. J. 730
   3. [S04543] Collections towards a Descriptive of the County of Devon. London, 1791 , Pole, Sir William.
3. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Doddiscombe-5 cites
   1. Feudal Aids, vol. I (Bedford - Devon). (1899): page 363; page 421.
   2. Soc.genealogy.medieval Discussion Group post. "Daughters of John de Doddiscombe," by Joe Cochoit. (Google Groups link, first post 1 April 2013, accessed June 2021).
   3. Discovery: The National Archives . Berkeley Castle Muniments. BCM/B/5/9/1.
   4. Hingeston-Randolph. Register of John de Grandisson, part II. (1897): page 1038
   5. Hingeston-Randolph. Register of John de Grandisson, part III. (1899): page 1374.
   6. Hingeston-Randolph. Register of John de Grandisson, part III. (1899): page 1490. Source list:

• Devonshire Wills: A Collection of Annotated Testamentary Abstracts, by Charles Worthy (1896). http://tinyurl.com/crzc6by
• [ii] Inquisitions and Assessments Relating to Feudal Aids, vol. I (Bedford - Devon), By Great Britain. Public Record Office (1899). P. 348, 390, 391 http://tinyurl.com/2fj7vr3
• Great Britain. Inquisitions and Assessments Relating to Feudal Aids, vol. I (Bedford - Devon). (London: Public Record Office, 1899): page 363; page 421.
• [iv] Calendar of the Patent Rolls, Edward II, vol. 1 (1307-1313). P. 28 18 December 1307 John de Dodescumbe appt as attorney for the archdeacon of Exeter. http://tinyurl.com/cwjf7w2
• [v] Register of Walter de Stapeldon, Bishop of Exeter, (A.D. 1307-1326), vol. 2, by Rev. F.C. Hingeston-Randolph (1892). P. 206 http://tinyurl.com/cnrarco
• [vi] Calendar of the Patent Rolls, Edward II, vol. 4 (1321-1324). P. 224 2 December 1322 John de Doddescombe appointment as collector of a tax for Devon http://tinyurl.com/d2ddwl9
• Discovery: The National Archives online database. Berkeley Castle Muniments. [BCM/B - BCM/C]. BCM/B/5/9/1. 14 June 1339, "William Pypard, knight; and Robert le FitzElys and Margaret his wife. Mon. after St...; witness John Dodiscombe of Devon"
• Hingeston-Randolph, Rev. Francis Charles ed. Register of John de Grandisson, Bishop of Exeter, (A.D. 1327-1369), part II. (London, 1897): page 1038.
• Hingeston-Randolph, Rev. Francis Charles ed. Register of John de Grandisson, Bishop of Exeter, (A.D. 1327-1369), part III. (London, 1899): page 1374; page 1490.
• Soc.genealogy.medieval Discussion Group post. "Daughters of John de Doddiscombe," by Joe Cochoit. (Google Groups < https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/bF9ElVAD4ss/m/... link] >, first post 1 April 2013, accessed June 2021).