Sir John Scott, of Scot's Hall in Smeeth

John Scott (died 1485)

Sir John Scott (or Scot) (c. 1423 – 17 October 1485) of Scot's Hall in Smeeth was a Kent landowner, and committed supporter of the House of York. Among other offices, he served as Comptroller of the Household to Edward IV, and Lord Warden of the Cinque Ports.

John Scott was the son of William Scott (d.1434) and Isabel Finch (died c.1457), youngest daughter of Vincent Finch, or Herbert, of Netherfield, Sussex.[1]

He had a younger brother, William Scott (1428?–1491), who married a wife named Margery, by whom he had six sons and two daughters, and was founder of the Essex branch of the Scott family.[1]

Scott was appointed to commissions in Kent from 1450 onwards, and with Sir John Fogge and Robert Horn expended in excess of £333 in the suppression of Jack Cade's uprising in that year. By 1456 he was an esquire Henry VI. He was appointed a Justice of the Peace in Kent in 1458, an office he held until his death, and was Sheriff of Kent in 1460.[1]

The 'turning point' in Scott's career, according to Fleming, 'came in June 1460, when, with Fogge and Horn, he gave support to the Yorkist earls that proved crucial to their success in Kent'. Within a year of the accession of Edward IV, Scott was rewarded with annuities, a knighthood, the office of tronage and pesage in the port of London, and appointments as joint Chirographer of the Common Pleas, deputy butler of Sandwich, lieutenant of Dover under Richard Neville, 16th Earl of Warwick, 'the Kingmaker', and Comptroller of the Household. In 1462, as a result of the attainders of John de Vere, 12th Earl of Oxford, and Thomas, 9th Baron Ros of Helmsley (d.1464), he was granted custody of Oxford's lands, as well as the reversion of lands which were the jointure of Baron Ros's widow, Margery [sic?], including the castle and manor of Chilham and the manors of Wilderton and Molash. In 1463 he was granted the manors of Old Swinford and Snodsbury in Worcestershire, in the hands of the crown by the attainder of the Earl of Wiltshire, and was among those entrusted with supervision of all 'wardships, marriages, and ecclesiastical temporalities' which had fallen to the crown.[1]

In 1466 he purchased the marriage of Sir Edward Poynings, son and heir of Sir Robert Poynings (d.1461), and in the following year was granted custody of Sir Robert Poynings' lands in Kent.[1]

He also served as Chamberlain to Edward, Prince of Wales,[citation needed] and was a Member of Parliament for Kent in 1467.[1]

In September 1467 he assisted in negotiations for the marriage of Edward IV's sister, Margaret of York, to Charles the Bold, and accompanied Margaret to her wedding in Burgundy in the following year. In November 1467 he negotiated a commercial treaty with Burgundy at Brussels, and from May 1469 to February 1470 was involved in commercial negotiations with the Hanseatic League in Flanders.[1]

In April 1471 he succeeded Richard Neville, 16th Earl of Warwick, as lieutenant of the Cinque Ports, and by March 1472 was Marshal of Calais. In 1473 and 1474 he travelled to Burgundy, Utrecht and Bruges on diplomatic missions.[1]

It seems likely that he went into exile during the readeption, but returned to England to fight at the Battle of Barnet in April 1471, and assist in the suppression of Fauconberg's rebellion in May of that year.[1]

In February 1473 he and others were appointed tutors to Edward IV's son, the Prince of Wales. After Edward IV's death, he was loyal to Richard III, 'at least until the end of 1484'.[1]

Scott died 17 October 1485, and was buried, by his instructions, in the north wall of the chancel of St. Mary's church, Brabourne. He left a will dated 18 October 1485, proved 18 January 1486.[2] His widow had died by 4 July 1487, and was also buried at St Mary's, Brabourne. She left a will dated March 25, 1487.[3]

An uncle, also one 'Sir John Scot of Scott's Hall', born at Brabourne, had been Lieutenant of Dover Castle from 1399 to his death in 1413. He had also served as Member of Parliament for Hythe in Kent from 1384.[citation needed]

Scott married Agnes Beaufitz (d.1486/7), daughter and co-heiress of William Beaufitz of The Grange, Gillingham, Kent, and likely also a fishmonger of London, by whom he had a son and two daughters:[4][1][5][6]

• Sir William Scott (d. 24 August 1524), who married Sibyl Lewknor.
• Isabel or Elizabeth Scott (d. 15 August 1528), whom Sir John Scott married to his ward, Sir Edward Poynings. There is a memorial brass to her in St Mary's church, Brabourne.[7]
• Margaret Scott (d.1514), who married, as his second wife, Sir Edmund Bedingfield (1443-1496).[8]

From the 16th century onwards Thomas Rotherham, Archbishop of York, was also known by the alternate surname 'Scot', and it has been speculated that he was a younger son of Sir John Scott and Agnes Beaufitz. However this claim is said to have been disproved.[9][10][11]

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Scott_of_Scott%27s_Hall

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• Sir John Scott, Sheriff of Kent, Governor of Dover Castle1,2,3,4
• M, #72439, b. circa 1415, d. 1485
• Father William Scott, Esq. b. c 1390, d. 5 Feb 1434
• Mother Isabel Herbert5 d. c Nov 1457
• Sir John Scott, Sheriff of Kent, Governor of Dover Castle was born circa 1415 at of Scotts Hall, Kent, England. He married Agnes Beaufitz, daughter of William Beaufitz and Elizabeth, circa 1438.2,4 Sir John Scott, Sheriff of Kent, Governor of Dover Castle died in 1485 at Brabourne, Kent, England.
• Family Agnes Beaufitz b. c 1415, d. 25 Mar 1487
• Children
  • Sir William Scott, Sheriff of Kent, Constable of Dover Castle+2,4 b. c 1445, d. 24 Aug 1524
  • Margaret Scott+1,3 b. c 1446, d. 29 Jan 1514
• Citations
• 1.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 89.
• 2.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 1.
• 3.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 683.
• 4.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 593.
• 5.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 272.
• From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p2410.htm#... _________________
• Rt. Hon. Sir John Scott1
• M, #585164
• Last Edited=16 Feb 2013
• Rt. Hon. Sir John Scott held the office of Governor of Calais and Kent.1 He lived at Scott' Hall, Kent, England.1 He was invested as a Privy Counsellor (P.C.).1
• Child of Rt. Hon. Sir John Scott
  • 1.Margaret Scott+1
• Citations
• 1.[S37] BP2003 volume 3, page 3067. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37]
• From: http://www.thepeerage.com/p58517.htm#i585164 __________________
• Isabel FINCH
• Born: ABT 1401, Netherfield, Sussex, England
• Died: 20 Nov 1454, Clifton, Newark, Nottinghamshire, England
• Father: Vincent FINCH
• Mother: Isabella CRALLE
• Married 1: Gervase CLIFTON (Sir Knight) (b. ABT 1390 - d. BEF 1423) (son of John De Clifton and Catherne De Cressy)
• Children:
  • 1. Gervase CLIFTON (b. ABT 1418 - d. 8 Dec 1453) (m. Isabel Francis)
  • 2. Robert CLIFTON (b. ABT 1419 - d. 7 Apr 1478) (m. Alice Booth)
• Married 2: William SCOTT (Sir Sherrif of Kent) (b. ABT 1390 - d. 5 Feb 1433) (son of John Scott and Dau. Cumbe) ABT 11420, Scott's Hall, Kent, England
• Children:
  • 1. John SCOTT (Sir High Sheriff of Kent) (b. 1423 - d. 1485) (m. Agnes Beaufitz)
• From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/FINCH.htm#Isabel FINCH2 _______________
• Edward POYNINGS (Sir Knight)
• Born: 1459 / 1465, Poynings, Sussex, England
• Died: Oct 1521, Westenhangar, Kent, England
• Notes: See his Biography.
• Father: Robert POYNINGS (6º B. Poynings)
• Mother: Elizabeth PASTON
• Married: Elizabeth SCOTT (d. 15 Aug 1528) (dau. of Sir John Scott, Marshal of Calais)
• Children:
  • 1. John POYNINGS
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• Children:
  • 2. Thomas POYNINGS (1º B. Poynings)
  • 3. Mary (Joan) POYNINGS (B. Clinton of Marstoke)
• Associated with: ¿?
• Children:
  • 4. Adrian POYNINGS (Sir Knight)
  • 5. Edward POYNINGS
• Associated with: ¿?
• Children:
  • 6. Margaret POYNINGS
  • 7. Maria POYNINGS
• Associated with: ¿?
• Children:
  • 8. Rose POYNINGS
  • 9. Francis POYNINGS (Sir Knight)
• From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/POYNINGS.htm#Edward POYNINGS (Sir Knight)1
• http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/Bios/EdwardPoynings.htm _________________
• ISABEL SCOTT (1459-August 15, 1528)
• Isabel (sometimes called Elizabeth) Scott was the daughter of Sir John Scott of Scot's Hall, Smeeth, Kent (1423-October 17, 1485) and Agnes Beaufitz (d. March 25, 1486/7). She married Sir Edward Poynings of Westenhanger, Kent (1459-October 22, 1521) c.1480. They had one son, John, who predeceased them. Elizabeth's marriage must have been interesting. Her husband had seven illegitimate children, three sons and four daughters, by four mistresses. The last of these, Rose Whetehill, appears to have traveled with him when he was on diplomatic missions abroad, since one of her children was born in Ghent. Poynings also acquired the wardships of three boys, Henry Pympe and Humphrey Stafford in 1497 and Edward Fiennes, 9th Lord Clinton, the son of his illegitimate daughter Jane (Joan/Mary), in 1518. This last had to be purchased and cost him nearly £135. Poynings rebuilt the castle at Westenhanger. He was comptroller of the household from 1509-1519 (a post Isabel's father formerly held) and treasurer from 1519-21. In his will, written July 27, 1521 and proved December 19, 1521, he left Westenhanger to his oldest illegitimate son, Thomas Poynings (d.1545). Isabel received £80/year, the silver, household stuff, and 200 sheep. Portrait: brass labeled "Lady Elizabeth Powynges" in the Church of St. Mary the Virgin, Brabourne, Kent.
• MARGARET SCOTT (c.1453-January 29, 1513/14)
• Margaret Scott was the daughter of Sir John Scott, Marshall of Calais (1423-October 17, 1485) and Agnes Beaufitz (d. March 25, 1487). She married Sir Edmund Bedingfield (1443-1496) in about 1478 as his second wife. Their children were Sir Thomas (c.1479-1558), Alice, Robert, Sir Edmund (c.1483-1553), Agnes, Peter, Sir John, Elizabeth, and Margaret. Sir Edmund moved the family seat to Oxborough, Norfolk, where Margaret built a chapel to his memory in the parish church.
• From: http://kateemersonhistoricals.com/TudorWomenSa-Sn.htm _______________________________

Sir John Scott (or Scot) (c. 1423 – October 17, 1485) was Warden of the Cinque Ports. Sir John was born at his family home of Scott's Hall at Brabourne in Kent, England (although at least one source reports instead that he was born at Smeeth). He was the grandfather of Sir William Scott. During his life he acquired the manor and castle of Wilderton and Molash in Kent and the manor of Old Swinford and Snodsbury in Worcestershire, all granted to him by King Edward IV for his distinguished service to the Yorkist cause. Scott was High Sheriff of Kent (1460), and was knighted in 1461, the same year he became Comptroller of the Household of King Edward IV of England. He also served as Chamberlain to Edward, Prince of Wales, and was Member of Parliament for Kent in 1467. As ambassador to Burgundy, he was one of the negotiators of a treaty of commerce in 1467 and of the marriage treaty of Margaret, Duchess of Burgundy, and was also later engaged in diplomatic relations with the Hanseatic League. In 1471 he was sent to France to arrest Warwick the Kingmaker, and was appointed to succeed Warwick as Lieutenant or Governor of Dover Castle, Lord Warden of the Cinque Ports and Marshal of Calais. Sir John married Agnes de Beaufitz "of the Grange, Gillingham" in Kent. He predeceased her at Brabourne and was buried, per his instruction, in the north wall of the chancel at the parish church at Brabourne. Agnes died by July 4, 1487, and was also buried at the Brabourne parish church. Her will is dated March 25. An uncle, also one Sir John Scot of Scott's Hall, born at Brabourne, had been Lieutenant of Dover Castle from 1399 to his death in 1413. He had also served as Member of Parliament for Hythe in Kent from 1384.

Sir John Scott, PC, of Scott's Hall, Kent, Governor of Calais and Dover.[Burke's Peerage]

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The heir, SIR JOHN SCOTT (d. 1485) of Scot's Hall, a consistent Yorkist,was appointed sheriff of Kent in 1460, and, on the accession of Edward IV next year, was knighted and made comptroller of the household. Edward IV,on the attainder in 1461 of Thomas, baron de Roos, and James Butler, earlof Wiltshire, gave him the castle and manor of Wilderton and Molash inKent and the manor of Old Swinford and Snodsbury in Worcestershire, witha life interest in the castle and manor of Chilham. He was one of thenegotiators of the treaty of commerce with Burgandy, concluded atBrussels on 24 Nov. 1467, and of the marriage treaty [see MARGARET,DUCHESS OF BURGANDY], and one of the commission for the delimitation ofthe Pale of Picardy, appointed on 18 June 1472. He was returned toparliament for Kent in 1467, and was engaged in the following years ondiplomatic negotiations with the Hanse Towns. In 1471 he succeededRichard Neville, earl Warwick, whom he was sent to arrest, in Franceafter the battle of Stamford (May 1470), as lieutenant of Dover Castle,warden of the Cinque ports, and marshal of Calais, and continued inactive diplomatic employment. He died on 17 Oct. 1485, and was buried in the north wall of the chancel of Brabourne church. His arms are in the north window of 'the martyrdom' at canterbury Cathedral. His account-book(1463-6) was printed in 'Archæologia Cant.' vol. x. By his wife Agnes(d.1487), daughter of William de Beaufitz of the Grange, Gillingham,Kent, he had, with two daughters, an heir, William. The statement thatThomas Rotherham [q.v.] was a younger son is without foundation. [LifeSketch of Sir William Scott & Selected Descendants, www.burgoyne.com]

Sources: 1.Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com Page: Adrian Channing, 18 Nov 1998 Text: 1485 2.Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999 Page: 2200 3.Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com Page: Brad Verity, 22 Aug 2002 Text: son of William Scott by Isabel, half-brother of Isabel Clifton 4.Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com Page: Adrian Channing, 18 Nov 1998

Born in Scott Hall c. 1415 to Knight Wm. Scott and his wife Isabell (Herbert) Scott. Married Agnes (Beaufitz) Scott. Father of Sir Wm. Scott. b. abt 1459. His tomb is canopied on N. wall of Church of St. Mary the Virgin in Brabourne, Kent, ENG. He was Sheriff of Kent and Gov. of Dover Castle.

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Knight, Ambassador, Member of Parliament Lord Warden of the Cinque Ports, Governor of Dover Castle, Governor of Calais, Sheriff of Kent and Governor of Dover Castle.

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He left a will dated 18 October 1485, proved 18 January 1486.