Sir Richard Talbot, 2nd Lord Talbot, of Goodrich

• Sir Richard Talbot, 2nd Lord Talbot & Lord of Mar, Justice of the Peace for Gloucestershire & Herefordshire1,2,3,4,5,6,7
• M, #11109, b. circa 1305, d. 23 October 1356
• Father Gilbert Talbot, 1st Baron Talbot, Lord Chamberlain, Justice of South Wales8 b. 18 Oct 1276, d. 24 Feb 1346
• Mother Anne le Boteler8
• Sir Richard Talbot, 2nd Lord Talbot & Lord of Mar, Justice of the Peace for Gloucestershire & Herefordshire was born circa 1305 at of Eccleswall in Linton, Herefordshire, England.7 He married Elizabeth Comyn, daughter of Sir John "the Red" Comyn, Lord Badenock and Joan de Valence, circa 10 July 1326; They had 1 son (Sir Gilbert, 3rd Lord Talbot) & 1 daughter (Joan, wife of Sir Nicholas Poynings).3,4,5,6,7 Sir Richard Talbot, 2nd Lord Talbot & Lord of Mar, Justice of the Peace for Gloucestershire & Herefordshire died on 23 October 1356 at of Goodrich Castle, Herefordshire, England; Probably buried in Flanesford Priory, Herefordshire.7
• Family Elizabeth Comyn b. 1 Nov 1299, d. 20 Nov 1372
• Child
  • Sir Gilbert Talbot, 3rd Lord Talbot+2,3,4,6,7 b. c 1332, d. 24 Apr 1387
• Citations
• 1.[S2901] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, 4th Ed., by F. L. Weis, p. 151; Burke's Peerage, 1938, p. 2236; The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, by Ronny O. Bodine, p. 121.
• 2.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 702.
• 3.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 426.
• 4.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 165-166.
• 5.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 234.
• 6.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 141-142.
• 7.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 114-116.
• 8.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 114.
• From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p370.htm#i... ____________________________
• Richard Talbot, 2nd Lord Talbot1
• M, #213397, b. 1305, d. 23 October 1356
• Last Edited=4 Dec 2006
• Richard Talbot, 2nd Lord Talbot was born in 1305.1 He was the son of Gilbert Talbot, 1st Lord Talbot and Ann le Botiler.1 He married Elizabeth Comyn.1 He died on 23 October 1356.1
• He gained the title of 2nd Lord Talbot.
• Child of Richard Talbot, 2nd Lord Talbot and Elizabeth Comyn
  • 1.Gilbert Talbot, 3rd Lord Talbot+1 d. 24 Apr 1387
• Citations
• 1.[S1916] Tim Boyle, "re: Boyle Family," e-mail message to Darryl Roger Lundy, 16 September 2006. Hereinafter cited as "re: Boyle Family."
• From: http://www.thepeerage.com/p21340.htm#i213397 _________________________
• Richard TALBOT (2° B. Talbot)
• Born: 1302/1309, Goodrich Castle, Herfordshire, England
• Died: 23 Oct 1356
• Buried: Flanesford Priory, Goodrich Castle, Herfordshire, England
• Father: Gilbert TALBOT (1° B. Talbot)
• Mother: Anne BOTTELER
• Married: Elizabeth COMYN (b. 1 Nov 1299 - d. 20 Nov 1372) (dau. of John Comyn Lord of Badenoch and Joan de Valence - sister and coheir of John Comyn of Badenoch) (m2 21 Feb 1357-16 Feb 1360 Sir John Bromwich Knight) 23 Mar 1326/7
• Children:
  • 1. Gilbert TALBOT (3° B. Talbot)
  • 2. Thomas TALBOT (Clerk)
  • 3. Jane TALBOT
• From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/TALBOT.htm#Richard TALBOT (2° B. Talbot) _______________________________

Goodrich Castle

• .... etc.
• The castle then passed to Aymer's niece, Elizabeth de Comyn, a well-connected young noblewoman. By the middle of the 1320s, however, England was in the grip of the oppressive rule of the Marcher lords Hugh le Despenser the older and his son Hugh Despenser the younger, the royal favourites of King Edward II.[38] As part of a "sweeping revenge" on their rivals, especially in the Marches, the Despensers illegally seized a wide range of properties, particularly from vulnerable targets such as widows, wives whose husbands were out of favour with the king or unmarried women.[39] Upon her inheritance, Hugh le Despenser the younger promptly kidnapped Elizabeth in London and transported her to Herefordshire to be imprisoned in her own castle at Goodrich.[1] Threatened with death, Elizabeth was finally forced to sign over the castle and other lands to the Despensers in April 1325.[40] Elizabeth then married Richard Talbot, the 2nd Baron Talbot, who seized back the castle in 1326 shortly before Queen Isabella of France landed in England and deposed both the Despensers and her husband Edward II; Talbot and Elizabeth regained their legal title to the castle the following year.[41] Richard later received permission from Isabella's son Edward III to create a dungeon under the keep for holding prisoners.[42]
• Goodrich remained the favourite home of the Richard Talbot's descendants for many years. During the early years, the security situation in Wales remained of concern. Owain Glyndwr rebelled against English rule in 1402 and Welsh forces invaded the Goodrich area in 1404 and 1405. Gilbert Talbot was responsible for fighting back the Welsh advance and securing the castle.[43] As time went on, however .... etc.
• From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodrich_Castle ____________________________
• John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury and 1st Earl of Waterford KG (1384/1387 Blakemere, Shropshire – 17 July 1453 Castillon, France), known as "Old Talbot" was an important English military commander during the Hundred Years' War, as well as the only Lancastrian Constable of France.
• He was descended from Richard Talbot, a tenant in 1086 of Walter Giffard at Woburn and Battledsen in Bedfordshire. The Talbot family were vassals of the Giffards in Normandy.[1] Hugh Talbot, probably Richard's son, made a grant to Beaubec Abbey, confirmed by his son Richard Talbot in 1153. This Richard (d. 1175) is listed in 1166 as holding three fees of the Honour of Giffard in Buckinghamshire. He also held a fee at Linton in Herefordshire, for which his son Gilbert Talbot (d. 1231) obtained a fresh charter in 1190.[2] Gilbert's grandson Gilbert (d. 1274) married Gwenlynn Mechyll, daughter and sole heiress of the Welsh Prince Rhys Mechyll, whose armorials the Talbots thenceforth assumed in lieu of their own former arms. Their son Sir Richard Talbot, who signed the Barons' Letter, 1301, held the manor of Eccleswall in Herefordshire in right of his wife Sarah, sister of William de Beauchamp, 9th Earl of Warwick. In 1331 Richard's son Gilbert Talbot (1276–1346) was summoned to Parliament, which is considered evidence of his baronial status - see Baron Talbot.[3] Gilbert's son Richard married Elizabeth Comyn, bringing with her the inheritance of Goodrich Castle in Herefordshire.
• John Talbot was second son of Richard Talbot, 4th Baron Talbot, by Ankaret le Strange, 7th Baroness Strange of Blackmere. His younger brother Richard became Archbishop of Dublin and Lord Chancellor of Ireland and one of the most influential Irish statesmen of his time.
• His father died in 1396 when Talbot was just nine years old, and so it was Ankaret's second husband, Thomas Neville, Lord Furnival, who became the major influence in his early life. The marriage also gave the opportunity of a title for her second son as Neville had no sons with the title going through his eldest daughter Maud.[4] who would become John's 1st wife. .... etc.
• From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Talbot,_1st_Earl_of_Shrewsbury _________________________
• 'Talbot01'
• (1) Visitation (Yorkshire,1563-4, Talbot I) contains an illustrious pedigree for the early generations of this family, indicating that a John Talbot came into England from Normandy with the Conqueror and married the daughter of a Rychard, Lord Talbot, descended from a John, Lord Talbot of Eclesfeld, etc.. However, that pedigree appears to be largely spurious. Similarly, Visitation (Worcestershire, 1569, Talbot) provides a pedigree going back 8 generations before the 1st Earl much of which appears spurious. Collins reports that this family is 'said to be in England before the Norman Conquest' but starts with the following Richard. TCP is cautious about the origins of this family, pointing out that Talbot was a common Norman nickname. [A talbot was a long-eared dog used for tracking and hunting. Any reference to someone as 'de Talbot' should probably be read as 'le Talbot'.] BE1883 starts with the following Richard but, apart from mentioning that his son Geoffrey was ancestor of the Talbots of Bashall (which TCP appears to disagree with), then follows the descent of his son Hugh
• (2) On Temp44 we show the interesting additional connections shown by a large online database which we wish to investigate further but which we think important enough to draw attention to.
• Richard Talbot (a 1085)
• m. ?? de Gournay (dau of Gerard, Sire de Gournay, Lord of Yarmouth)
  • 1. Geoffrey Talbot (d c1129/30)
  • His family is as reported in a note to TCP (Munchensy of Norfolk).
  • m. Agnes de Lacy (dau of Walter de Laci)
    • A. Geoffrey Talbot (d 1140)
    • B. Sybil Talbot
    • m. Payn FitzJohn of Ewyas, Sheriff of Hereford and Salop
  • 2. Hugh Talbot (a 1118)
  • m. (div) Beatrix de Mandeville (d 19.04.1197, dau of William de Mandeville)
    • A. Richard Talbot (d before 25.12.1175) first in the pedigree given by TCP (Talbot)
    • m. _ Bulmer (dau of Stephen Bulmer of Appletreewick)
      • i. Gilbert Talbot (d before 13.02.1230/1)
        • a. Richard Talbot (d before 13.04.1234)
        • m. (before 1124) Aline or Aliva Basset (dau of Alan Basset, Baron of Wycombe, widow of Drew de Montacute)
          • (1) Gilbert Talbot (d 1274)
          • m. Gwendaline (dau of Rhys ap Griffith ap Rhys ap ap Griffith ap Rhys ap Tewdwr Mawr, King of South Wales)
            • (A) Richard Talbot, lord of Eccleswall, Sheriff of Gloucester (d 1306)
            • m. Sarah de Beauchamp (dau of William de Beauchamp of Elmley, 1st Earl of Warwick)
              • (i) Sir Gilbert Talbot, 1st Baron, Lord Chamberlain (d 1346)
              • m. Anne Boteler (dau of William Boteler of Wemme)
                • (a) Sir Richard Talbot, 2nd Baron (d 1356)
                • m. (before 1325) Elizabeth Comyn (b 1299, a 1326, dau of Sir John Comyn, Lord of Badenoch)
                  • ((1)) Gilbert Talbot, 3rd Baron (d 24.04.1387)
                  • m1. Petronilla Butler (d 1387, dau of James Butler, 1st Earl of Ormonde)
                    • ((A)) .... etc.
                  • m2. Joan Stafford (dau of Ralph, Earl of Stafford)
              • (ii) .... etc.
• Main source(s): BP1934 (Shrewsbury), BE1883 (Talbot - various), Visitation (Surtees Society 1869, Yorkshire, Dugdale 1664-6, Talbot of Thorneton) with support from TCP (Talbot), Collins (1741, Talbot Earl of Shrewsbury).
• From: Stirnet.com
• http://www.stirnet.com/genie/data/british/tt/talbot01.php ____________________________

http://www.gordonbanks.com/gordon/family/2nd_Site/geb-p/p55.htm#i2726

Sir Richard Talbot M.P.1

M, b. circa 1305, d. 23 October 1356, #2726

Father Sir Gilbert Talbot2,3 b. 18 October 1276, d. 24 February 1346

Mother Anne le Boteler4

Pop-up Pedigree

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Birth* Sir Richard Talbot M.P. was born circa 1305.1,5

Event-Misc* Was taken in arms against the King with his father. On 13 March 1322 at Battle of Boroughbridge.5

Marriage* He married Elizabeth Comyn, daughter of John Comyn and Joan de Valence, between 24 July 1326 and 23 March 1327.1,6,7,8

Event-Misc Had letters of protection, being ready to cross the sea with the King. On 14 April 1329.5

Event-Misc Summoned to parliament by writ directed Ricardo Talbot between 27 January 1332 and 20 September 1355.5

Event-Misc Joined Edward Balliol in his invasion of Scotland, contrary to the King's orders, and was present at the defeat of the Scots by the "disinherited lords" at Dupplin Moor . On 12 August 1332 at Dupplin Moor, Scone, Scotland.5

Event-Misc Sat as "dominus de Mar" in the Parliament held by Edward balliol and, as such, witnessed the treat of Newcastle, whereby Balliol surrendered Berwick, Roxburgh, etc, to Edward III, having previously received of Balliol a conditional grant of Kildrummy Castle, Aberdeen, 17 Feb. On 10 February 1334 at Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland.5

Event-Misc Was captured by the Scots and impresoned at Dumbarton; but after leaving hostages for his ransom of £2000, was brough south to the Marches under safe conduct from Edward III (2 Apr 1335). In September 1334 at Linlithgow, Scotland.5

Event-Misc Keeper of Berwick-upon-Tweed and Justiciar of the lands in Scotland occupied by the King of England. On 21 December 1337 at Berwick-upon-Tweed, Northumberland, England.5

Event-Misc He was appointed keeper of Southampton. On 23 February 1340 at Southampton, Hampshire, England.7

Event-Misc He served at the siege of Tournay. In July 1340 at Tournay, France.7

Event-Misc He was a captain in the army of Sir William de Bohun which defeated Charles of Blois at Morlaix, when he took prisoner Geoffrey de Charny, one of the French leaders, and sent him to his castle at Goodrich, Hereford. On 30 September 1342 at Morlaix, France.7

Event-Misc He was Steward of the King's household. In May 1345.7

Event-Misc Although wounded earlier near the Seine, he was with the King at the battle of Crecy and at Calais. On 26 August 1346.7

Event-Misc He had a license to found the priory of Austin Canons at Flanesford within the Lordship of Castle Goodrich. On 18 December 1346 at Flanesford Priory, Herefordshire, England.7

Death* He died on 23 October 1356.1,6

Burial* He was buried at Flanesford Priory, Herefordshire, England.7

Title* He held the title of 2nd Lord Talbot.5

Family Elizabeth Comyn b. 1 November 1299, d. 20 November 1372

Marriage* He married Elizabeth Comyn, daughter of John Comyn and Joan de Valence, between 24 July 1326 and 23 March 1327.1,6,7,8

Child

Sir Gilbert Talbot M.P. b. c 1332, d. 24 Apr 1387

Last Edited 28 Oct 2004

Citations

[S168] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots, 95-31.

[S168] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots, 84A-30.

[S325] Rev. C. Moor, Knights of Edward I, v. 5, p. 3.

[S301] Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell, p. 242.

[S287] G. E. C[okayne], CP, XII - 612.

[S233] Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Charta Sureties, 141-5.

[S287] G. E. C[okayne], CP, XII - 613.

[S284] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, Talbot 10.

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