Sir Thomas de Green

Thomas Greene (b. abt. 1343 - d. 1391) was the eldest son of Sir Henry "Chief Justice of the King's Bench" (d. 1369), possibly by his first wife, Amabilia.

The Inquisition Post Mortem of Thomas Grene, Knight, took place in September 15 Richard II [1391][3].

"He died seised in his demesne as of fee of the under-mentioned tenements. Silverstret in Crepulgate ward. 2 contiguous tenements, whereof one is in the parish of St Olave, Silverstret, and the other in the parish of St Alban, Wodestret, held of the king in free burgage, as is the whole city of London. He died on Tuesday the feast of the Decollation of St John the Baptist last. Thomas Grene, his son, aged 22 years and more, is his heir."

The Inquisition also indicated that he was the son of Henry Grene and his wife Maud.[4]

45 Writ, 2 September, 15 Richard II
BUCKINGHAM. Inq. taken at Wavynden, Tuesday after the Exaltation of the Holy Cross, 15 Richard II.
He held no lands etc. in the county of the king in chief on the day of his death; but Henry Grene, knight, held of him on that day, by service of a moiety of a knight’s fee, the under-mentioned manors of Wolston and Wavynden with the advowson of the church of Wolston, which manors were given to the said Henry and the heirs of his body by Henry Grene, knight, father of the said Henry, with reversion to the right heirs of the said Henry the father. The said service, with the said reversion, descended to Thomas as son and heir of Henry the father, and he died seised of them in his demesne as of fee.
The aforesaid Henry the son and Maud his wife held of the said Thomas on the day of his death, by service of a rose yearly, the under-mentioned manor of Emberton, which Henry the father gave to the said Henry the son and Maud and the heirs of their bodies, with reversion to himself and his heirs. The said service, with the reversion, descended to Thomas as above, and he died seised of them in his demesne as of fee. …

In medieval times, the village was known a simply 'Norton' and was a royal domain of Edward the Confessor and later William the Conqueror. In the 14th century the whole village was sold to Sir Henry Greene for a total of 20 shillings hence the name Greene's Norton, which today is reduced to just Greens Norton. Source: Wikipedia Added to Geni by Janet Milburn 2/14/18

Origins

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol12/pp333-351

355. HENRY GRENE, knight.
Writ, 10 August, 43 Edward III.
LEICESTER. Inq. (indented) made at Leycestre, Wednesday the feast of the Decollation of St. John the Baptist, 43 Edward III.
Keggeworth. The manor, held of the earl of Chester by knight’s service.
Laghton. The manor, held of the earl of Oxford by knight’s service.
Claxton and Howes. 6 messuages, 3 virgates and 14 bovates of land, and 18a. meadow, of which 3 messuages, 3 virgates and a bovate are held of the lord de Roos by knight’s service, and the residue is held of John Boson by service of 18d.
He held no other lands &c. in the county.
He died on Monday before St. Laurence last. Thomas Grene, his son, aged 25 years and more, is his heir.
Writ, 10 August, 43 Edward III. [1369/70]

Also, IPM’s taken at York. Hertford, Bedford, Buckingham, London, Nottingham, Northampton.

Geni discussion (9 July 2022) https://www.geni.com/discussions/251702?msg=1573156

To summarise the discussion above:

• (1) We can find no reliable sources for the claim that Henry was a son of Thomas Boketon, of Northants.
• (2) The claim that Henry was a son of Thomas was made in Baker's History of Northampton, Vol I, Page 32, This has been shown to be false by W.S. Ellis, writing in the Herald and the Genealogist 1870 Vol 6 PPs 254 260
• (3) Ellis goes on to quote original sources of the time that establish Henry as the son of Henry Green of Isham, a wool merchant, also of Northants at that time, but whose family originated somewhere other than Northants.
• He also shows that Henry had 2 marriages. (1) Amabillia m. 1344 by whom he had one son Henry [sic: Thomas, this profile] and (2) Katherine Drayton m c.1344, who had a son Thomas [sic: Henry]. The dates indicate that the marriage to Amabillia was short lived. We could speculate that she died in childbirth, but we have no evidence. There is also very plausible speculation by Ellis that Henry may be been connected to the Boketon family but not directly to Thomas. Unfortunately we have no evidence.
• (4) Henry's marriage to Katherine is remembered by a tomb in the original church at Greene' Norton. An 18th C engraving, held in the National Portrait gallery in London, is all that remains, but it does show one of the emblems of the Drayton family quartered with the Green 3 bucks trippant.
• (5) More contemporary sources have been corrected to state that Henry was the son of Henry of Isham, including VCH and ONDB. There is also a detailed profile of Henry on Wikitree which supports this.

References

1. Ellis, W.S. The Herald and the Genealogist (1870) Vol 6, PPs 254-260. “Origin of the family of Greene of Northamptonshire.” < Archive.Org > “Amabilia, ux. H.G. jun. 17 Ed. III.” [1343/4] Shows as first wife of Henry de Greene, Jr., and mother of Sir Thomas de Green (ob. 1391)
2. WikiTree contributors, "Thomas Greene (abt.1343-1391)," WikiTree: The Free Family Tree, (https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Greene-404 : accessed 20 March 2024).
   1. “The Greenes of Boughton and Greene's Norton, co. Northants.” (Discussion begins Sunday, 21 April, 2002) < Soc.gen.medieval > 6. Sir Henry de Greene 'married about 1340...Catherine Drayton...daughter of Sir John de Drayton and Philippa d'Ardene. Lord Chief Justice of England in 1353... By a special license given by the King, Thomas, the eldest of Henry's children, received Boughton, and Henry, the second son received Greene's Norton.'
   2. Rixford, Elizabeth M. Leach. Families Directly Descended from all the Royal Families in Europe (495 to 1932) and Mayflower Descendants. Genealogical Publishing Co., publ. 2011. Page 74.
   3. M. C. B. Dawes, H. C. Johnson, M. M. Condon, C. A. Cook and H. E. Jones, 'Inquisitions Post Mortem, Richard II, File 71', in Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem, Volume 17, Richard II (London, 1988), pp. 12-34. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol17/pp12-34 [accessed 19 March 2024].
   4. M. C. B. Dawes and J. B. W. Chapman, 'Inquisitions Post Mortem, Edward III, File 209', in Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem: Volume 12, Edward III (London, 1938), pp. 333-351. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol12/pp333-351 [accessed 19 March 2024].
   5. La Mance, Lora S. The Green Family and all its Branches from A.D. 861 to A.D. 1904. Floral Park, NY: Mayflower Pub. Co., 1904. Page 32-33 USE WITH CAUTION.
3. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 2nd Edition ... page 231. Freville 9. < GoogleBooks >
4. Ellis, W.S. The Herald and the Genealogist (1870) Vol 6, PPs 254-260. “Origin of the family of Greene of Northamptonshire.” < Archive.Org > “Amabilia, ux. H.G. jun. 17 Ed. III.” [1343/4] Shows as first wife of Henry de Greene, Jr., and mother of Sir Thomas de Green (ob. 1391).
5. https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00198885&tree=LEO cites
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   3. [S04665] The Genealogist. Assn. for Promotion of Scholarship in Genealogy . 13:25-7