Warin le Vernon, 6th Baron of Shipbrook

Following a request for information in profile discussions for Hugh de Vernon, these two sources were supplied today 30th April 2014:

http://www.tonybostock.com/shipbrook.pdf

http://books.google.com/books?id=5S0BAAAAQAAJ&pg=PT147&lpg=PT147&dq...

The first link gives a background history of Shipbrook.

The second is J.B & J. Burke Heraldic Illustrations

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Richard de Vernon s/o William of Vernon Castle in Normandy. Richard created first Baron of Shipbrook in 1070

son=William de Vernon 2nd Baron of Shipbrook

son=Hugh de Vernon 3rd Baron of Shipbrook

son=Warren de Vernon 4th Baron of Shipbrook m:dau & heiress of Earl of Balliol

son=Richard de Vernon 5th Baron of Shipbrook

son=Warren de Vernon 6th Baron of Shipbrook m:Auda dau of William de Malbank

son=Warren de Vernon 7th Baron of Shipbrook m:Margaret dau of Ralph de Audeville & relict of Hugh Ataribus

son=Warren de Vernon 8th & last Baron of Shipbrook m: Maud of Leftwich (m:Sir Rd. Wilbraham)

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http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/VERNON.htm#Warin De VERNON (B. Vernon of Shipbrook)1

Warin De VERNON (B. Vernon of Shipbrook)

Born: ABT 1190, Shipbrook, Cheshire, England

Died: BET 1247 / 1249

Father: Richard De VERNON

Mother: Avice De AVENELL

Married: Auda De MALBANK (b. ABT 1200)

Children:

1. Warine De VERNON (B. Vernon of Shipbrook)

2. Nicholas De VERNON

3. Ralph De VERNON (Rector of Hanwell)

Children

1. Warine de Vernon, 6th Baron Vernon, b. Abt 1223, d. 1240
2. Ralph Vernon, Rector of Hanwell, b. 1225, Of,Shipbrook,Cheshire,Eng
3. Margery or Matilda de Vernon
4. Auda de Vernon, d. Abt 1269

	5. Rohesia (Rose) Vernon

6. Mathew de Vernon, b. Abt 1235, of Brichull
7. Nicholas Vernon, d. Abt 1288

	8. Richard Vernon

From the English Wikipedia page on the Vernon family:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernon_family

Vernon of Shipbrook, Cheshire[1]

William de Vernon arrived in England at the time of the Norman conquest and was granted lands in the County Palatine of Chester under the patronage of Hugh d'Avranches, 1st Earl of Chester. His son Richard was created a medieval Baron and settled at Shipbrook, near Northwich, Cheshire.[1]

Warine Vernon, elder son of the 4th Baron, had no male heir and his extensive estate was divided between his daughters and his brother Ralph, Rector of Hanwell. Ralph's son, also Ralph b 1241, was reputed to have lived so long he earned the soubriquet The Old Liver. His heir was Sir Richard, son of his second marriage to Matilda Grosvenor of Kinderton, Cheshire. The Barony expired when his grandson Sir Richard, was captured after the Battle of Shrewsbury in 1403 and executed for treason.[1]

Branches of the family flourished and its influence spread beyond Cheshire over the following centuries, partly as a result of judicious inter marriage.

Notes

• 1. Collins's Peerage p396

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Warin de Vernon formerly Vernon Born about 1178 in Cheshire, Englandmap Son of Sir Richard Osebroke of (Vernon) de Vernon and Avice (Avenal) d'Avenal Brother of Robert (Vernon) de Vernon, Ralph (Vernon) de Vernon and William (Vernon) de Vernon Husband of Auda (Malbank) de Vernon — married 1205 in Shipbrook, Cheshire, Englandmap Father of Ralph Vernon, Warine (Vernon) de Vernon, Alice Vernon, Nicholas Vernon, Matthew Vernon and Richard (De Vernon) Vernon Died 1247 in Broughton, Buckinghamshire, Englandmap

Per a 2013 post on soc.genealogy.medieval: "Harl.MS.2065 contains extracts from early Cheshire Inquisitions Post Mortem and on f.25, dated to 32 Henry III (1248) is the order to John de Grey, justiciar of Chester, to make the inquisition into which lands Warin de Vernon held of the king in chief.

"The interesting elements from a genealogical perspective come from the jurors comments on his heir.

"My rough translation is:

"When Warin was a young man he loved a certain woman named Auda who was first betrothed to Roger de Altaribus, and he took her into England after which the said Warin returned to Cheshire and held her as his own, and by her was born outside marriage a certain Annore by name, and Warin and William, and after censure from the church he married her, and after the marriage was approved was born Ralph"

"I need to check my transcription/translation when I next return to the BL, as (typically) I found it fifteen minutes before the manuscripts room closed for the day and cameras are not allowed. It does though seem to pick up on, and clarify, a few elements of the Vernon/Malbank story.

"After the death of Warin de Vernon in 1248, his inheritance was quickly divided between his son Ralph, and his grandson Warin, (the son of the Warin mentioned in the 1248 IPM). Ralph and Warin made a fine with the King of 100 marks on 15 Feb 1248/9 for his confirmation of their agreed split. (National Archives, C60/46 m.10 - also online at www.finerollshenry3.org.uk). This arrangement though had always struck me as a slightly unusual arrangement, and indeed a relatively mutual and civil agreement. If, as the jurors in the IPM suggest, there was general doubt over the legitimacy, but not the actual parentage of Warin, then this eventual split of the Vernon inheritanace could have been a practical resolution to this.

"Another element from this IPM is the naming of Roger de Altaribus. Auda's first husband is often stated to be Hugh de Altaribus, but there seems to have been a son by this first marriage of that name and confusion could have crept in from this. BL Harl MS 2077, f.63, is a transcript of a charter which dates from before c.1230 from Hugh de Altaripus son of Alde Malbank to "Warin de Vernon my father in law and Warin his son, my brother." However this transcription will need some further corroboration as Harl MS 1988, f.159 has another copy of the same charter in which it is transcribed, not as Hugh, but as "Auda de Altaribus filia Alde Maubank concessi Warino de Veron patri meo in lege et Warino filio suo fratri meo." If Hugh de Altaribus was a son, he may also have taken the name of his step-family as a Hugh de Vernon appears c.1216-c.1230 as parson of Davenham in a charter by Warin de Vernon to his son Nicholas of land at Haslegrove (BL Harl MS.2008, f.52). Who Roger de Altaribus was, or what his background was, I am not yet sure. Indeed given that the jurors were recollecting details of a presumably brief marriage from almost 50 years earlier, then there is a chance that the name of Roger could have been incorrectly recalled.

"Another element to note from the transcript of the IPM are the jurors comments that Warin took Auda into England. At this time Cheshire was not viewed as part of England, so this comment would refer to Warin and Auda simply heading out of the county. (See H.Hewitt, _Medieval Cheshire_, Chetham Society, 1929, p.7 for more on this perspective plus other examples of this turn of phrase). Indeed, this might have some corroboration from an essoin recorded under the county of Oxfordshire that was provided by Nicholas son of Thomas in 1201 for the case between Warin de Vernon and the King in a plea over why Warin had married without the consent of the King. (see D.Stenton, _Pleas before the King or his Justices 1198-1201_, Selden Society Vol.67, 1953, p.337)."

Sources

Soc.Genealogy.Medieval posting of Luke Potter on 23 Aug 2013 - http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2013-08/... Source: S1 Author: Ancestry.com Title: Public Member Trees Publication: Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2006; Repository: #R1 Notes

Note N197Notes Notes: twin brother of Matthew. Through his first marriage acquired Haddon. Sir Warin (Warnine)(Warren) de VERNON (F9) F9. Sir Warin (Warnine-S66)(Warren) de VERNON. Baron of Shipbrook (Shipbroke). Born (about 1190-V61)(in 1198-V11), of Shipbrook, Cheshire, England; son of Richard de VERNON [F7] and Avice de AVENELL. He married Auda de MALBANK (b.1190 Shipbrook-d.1219-1220), daughter of William Malbank of Wich Malbank. He died (between 1247 and 1249-V61)(in 1248) in England. CHILDREN: Ralphe de VERNON [F48], Warine de VERNON [F42], Matthew VERNON [F158], Nicholas de VERNON [F159], Richard de VERNON [F160]. {S1,S2,S11,S57,S61,S66}.

http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=13078823&pid...</ref>

comments

Date of marriage might be 1204.

References

• “Bromley: Midlands family history, and the search for the Leicestershire Origins.” By Ian Bromley. Page 31. GoogleBooks

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Sir Warine de Vernon Baron of Shipbrook (Abt 1198-)

• http://cybergata.com/roots/1304.htm

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