William Sutherland

Not a known child of Rogart Sutherland

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The SUTHERLAND BROTHERS came to America from Scotland, perhaps from Aberdeen, in 1684. According to ship's papers, these were William, Robert and David.

Patriarch: William I of Scotland, born 1650 in Scotland arrived in New Jersey from Aberdeen, Scotland aboard the Henry and Francis. July 1684

William thereafter was closely associated with 2 members of the EARL OF PERTH'S NEW JERSEY EXPEDITION, Patrick MacGregorie and David Toshach. (Patrick was married to David's sister, Margaret). The sponsor of the NEW JERSEY EXPEDITION was JAMES DRUMMOND, 4th Earl of Perth. His residence, Drummond Castle, was and is located at Muthill, proving a close geographic connection between Toshach and the Earl of Perth. According the LDS Ancestral File data, David Toshach and James Drummond were distant cousins. They shared as ancestors, William Ruthven, born about 1500, Kynnard, Perthshire, Scotland who was married to Janet Halyburton, born about 1510, Kynnard, Perthshire, Scotland. Further search of the same file shows James Drummond to be related to the GORDON-SUTHERLANDS of DUNROBIN CASTLE. There are also Sutherlands in David Toshach's ancestry. A sister of David's mother married a man named Patrick Roy McGregor, possibly related to Patrick MacGregorie, and therefore tying all 4 families together: SUTHERLAND, DRUMMOND, TOSCHACH, MacGREGORIE.

In the late 1600s, James Duke of York, brother of King Charles II of England, granted patents for all the land in New Jersey, and the right to form a government, to 2 groups of proprietors. The West Jersey Proprietors were QUAKERS seeking religious freedom. The East Jersey Proprietors were mostly SCOTS SEEKING WEALTH. Although a few of them made efforts to establish plantations, most were purely speculators, and all sold their land to the real first settlers within a few years. A number of them were very wealthy and influential Scots at a time when the King of England was a Stuart of the Royal Scottish line.

One of the East Jersey Proprietors was John Drummond, a younger brother of JAMES DRUMMOND (4th Earl of Perth). John was granted 1,000 acres between the mouth of Holland's Brook and Whiton Road on 9 Nov 1685. The Earl of Perth was one of those proprietors.

In 1680 he had been deputy governor of Edinburgh Castle. Four years later he was named secretary of state for the Kingdom of Scotland, and raised to an Earl. The Earl's NEW JERSEY EXPEDITION was intended to establish settlements in this territory. WILLIAM SUTHERLAND and his companions, MacGREGORIE and TOSHACH, along with MacGregorie's flock of Presbyterian families were persuaded by the Governor of NY to move slightly north into that state. William was granted 1,000 acres of land by Queen Anne, but he shared this with two other men.

William Sutherland emigrated from Scotland to New Jersey in 1684 (source: Whyte, Donald: A Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to the USA, Vol 1. Baltimore: Magna Carta Book Co, 1972:p 504, 2nd pr. 1981 p. 432. Prepared for the Scottish Genealogical Society). There are two documents dated 1709 that mention William Sutherland. He was on a tax list in Ulster County, NY (later Orange County), and he was granted 1,000 acres of land by Queen Anne of England. The latter is contained in: Record Book of Original Grants [Royal Papers]. In 1709, William Sutherland and William Chambers bought 1,000 of land located on the Hudson River in Orange County. John Ellison, merchant, loaned money to his customers, one of whom was William Sutherland. The loan was made in 1718, Ellison took a mortgage on Sutherland's land and soon after came into its possession. Source: History of Orange County, NY With Illustrations and Biographical Sketches of Many of Its Pioneers and Prominent Men. Compiled by EM Ruttenber and LH Clark (Philadelphia: Everts & Peck, 1881). In 1720, a William Sutherland was living in Highlandseck, NY and was on a tax list. This may have referred to William, the immigrant, or to his son, William Sutherland, Jr.

Another Possibility

Added by davidphillipsaz on 7 Jun 2009

Originally submitted by janeantonovich to Dugan Family Tree on 10 Apr 2009

My name is William Sutherland (9 generations later) and I believe I am descended from the referenced Sutherland. Like many others, I am trying to connect up to the line to Scotland and been trying to piece together the clues. Some of the ideas have been to try to understand the bond between the MacGregorie's, the Toschach's and the Sutherland's. They came together on the same ship and William was single but stayed with Patrick and Margaret all the way to Quassaick Creek settlement and when Patrick was killed in the riot in New York in 1691, William supposedly took Margaret in when her son in law (John Evans) claimed Patrick's property. There are records from 1716 of William and Mary being witnesses to baptisms in the Palatine children. Supposedly, Queen Anne settled the dispute over the Patent from Patrick around that time and it was given to her son. After that date, they disappeared from that area to my knowledge and some have speculated that they returned to Scotland. One thing that has come up regarding the MacGregorie's in my research is that the clan name had a period where it was banned from being used altogether. It may be that Patrick earned the name back from his service to the King as a soldier of fortune prior to coming to America.

It is part of family lore that "three Sutherland brothers sailed together to America from Scotland." This is a common legend that exists in many families, but it may be correct concerning the Sutherlands. A relative of a correspondent was in Scotland and found a copy of the Earl Of Perth's charter for the lands in New Jersey. William Sutherland, Robert Southerland, and an Alexander Sutherland were named in the charter.

The following is posted at the Clan Sutherland discussion board: How the O got into SOutherland by Charles C. Southerland, 8/1/99

We have traced our geneology back to a Robert S(O)utherland who left Scotland in June or July of 1684 on a Charter from the Earl of Perth. When he arrived in the New World, he settled in the "Southern Climes" ie Virginia and later in North Carolina. His Brother(s) who came with him settled in New Jersey.

Mrs. A. S. Wooten of Mount Olives, North Carolina says that in 1684 Robert Sutherland, 1 of 3 brothers, came to America from Aberdeen, Scotland in the Earl of Perth's New Jersey expedition. But because of ill winds, landed in Virginia. Robert settled where Richmond now is. His brothers went North on foot with a large company. Between 1497 and 1609 New Jersey was claimed by various nations including the English, French, Spanish and Dutch. The Dutch influenced Monmouth County from 1614 to 1664. In 1664 King Charles II of England granted his brother James, Duke of York, this territory and he, in turn, gave a lease and release for New Jersey to Lord John Berkeley and Sir George Carteret. On the death of Sir Carteret, his lease rights were sold and eventually the new owners established a Board of Proprietors to administer their lands and rights.

To the frustration of many genealogical researchers, it has not so far been possible to identify confidently the parents of William Sutherland I, nor the place and date of his birth.

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William Sutherland emigrated from Scotland to America (New Jersey) in 1684.

Source: Whyte, Donald: A Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to the USA, Vol.1

Baltimore: Magna Carta Book Co., 1972 504p. 2nd pr. 1981 p.432 Prepared for the Scottish Genealogical Society.

This is possibly a brother, and very possibly on the same ship. We know that the ship diverted course to Virginia, where all the passengers disembarked. William went overland with his party to New Jersey. Robert stayed in Virginia and settled there.

Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s

Name: Robert Southerland

Year: 1684

Place: Virginia

Source Publication Code: 9760

Primary Immigrant: Southerland, Robert

Annotation: Covers era prior to 1855. Compiled from correspondence and monument inscriptions, 17th and, mainly, 18th century. Prepared for the Scottish Genealogical Society. 6,470 emigrants.

Source Bibliography: WHYTE, DONALD. A Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to the USA. Vol. 1. Baltimore: Magna Carta Book Co., 1972. 504p. 2nd pr., 1981.

Page: 409

There are two documents dated 1709 that mention William. He was on a tax list in Ulster County, New York [later Orange County], and he was granted 1000 acres of land by Queen Anne of England. The latter is contained in: Record Book of Original Grants [Royal papers].

In 1709, William Sutherland and William Chambers bought 1000 acres of land located on the Hudson River in Orange Co. John Ellison, merchant, loaned money to his customers, one of whom was William Sutherland. The loan was made in 1718, Ellison took a mortgage on Sutherland's land and soon after came into its possession.

Source: History of Orange County, New York, with Illustrations and Biographical Sketches of Many of Its Pioneers and Prominent Men. Compiled by E. M. Ruttenber and L. H. Clark Philadelphia: Everts & Peck. 1881

In 1720, a William Sutherland was living in Highlandseck, NY and was on a tax list. This may have referred to William, the immigrant, or to his son, William Sutherland, Jr.

A settlement had been made upon the borders of Cornwall at Plum Point and on territory now included in the town of New Windsor. This was by Col. Patrick MacGregorie, and was the first settlement within the limits of the present county of Orange....Of this colony, also, was Wm. Sutherland (or Southerland). He was the ancestor of the present Sutherland families residing in Cornwall. It appears they constitute the sole representatives of this early settlement now remaining in this section, their successive generations having been in this town, or near it, for nearly two hundred years. It is known that Wm. Sutherland had one son, David Sutherland, and that the latter bought, in 1734, 100 acres of land in the Bethlehem neighborhood. There were, doubtless, other sons of William Sutherland, as it is evident several of the numerous branches of the family at the present time do not trace their line though David.

Source: ibid

One Alexander Sutherland (father of three brothers) died in 1777. It is probable that he was a brother of David, and a son of William.

Source: ibid

Two sons of William Sutherland, Alexander & David, settled early in Cornwall. Alexander was buried the day Ft. Montgomery was captured (1777). Children of Alexander were: Alexander, David, and Andrew. [This appears to be an error. David's will lists these three names as his sons, along with Patrick, who had died earlier.] Alexander, son of Alexander, had: Alexander, John D., Andrew, David, and Mrs. John DuBois. Of these, Andrew had Daniel and David, atty.

Source: Pioneer Families of Orange County, New York. Compiled by Martha and Bill Reamy.

It is part of family lore that "three Sutherland brothers sailed together to America from Scotland." This is a common legend that exists in many families, but it may be correct concerning the Sutherlands.

The following is posted at the Clan Sutherland discussion board:

How the O got into SOutherland

by Charles C. Southerland, 8/1/99

We have traced our geneology back to a Robert S(O)utherland who left Scotland in June or July of 1684 on a Charter from the Earl of Perth. When he arrived in the New World, he settled in the "Southern Climes" ie Virginia and later in North Carolina. His Brother(s) who came with him settled in New Jersey.

The following is taken from World Family Tree (Family Tree Maker) volume 48, Tree number 1693

Henry Clay Sutherland of Fairfield, Illinois always said that the Sutherlands were descended from 3 brothers who came to America at an early age.

Robert W. Sutherland of Charles Co, Maryland says that he was always told of the 3 brothers who came to Virginia away back. One stayed there, one came to Maryland, and one went to North Carolina.

Mrs. A. S. Wooten of Mount Olives, North Carolina says that in 1684 Robert Sutherland, 1 of 3 brothers, came to America from Aberdeen, Scotland in the Earl of Perth's New Jersey expedition. But because of ill winds, landed in Virginia. Robert settled where Richmond now is. His brothers went North on foot with a large company.

Between 1497 and 1609 New Jersey was claimed by various nations including the English, French, Spanish and Dutch. The Dutch influenced Monmouth County from 1614 to 1664. In 1664 King Charles II of England granted his brother James, Duke of York, this territory and he, in turn, gave a lease and release for New Jersey to Lord John Berkeley and Sir George Carteret. On the death of Sir Carteret, his lease rights were sold and eventually the new owners established a Board of Proprietors to administer their lands and rights.

In the late 1600s, James Duke of York, Brother of King Charles II of England, granted patents for all the land in New Jersey, and the right to form a government, to two groups of proprietors. The West Jersey Proprietors were Quakers seeking religious freedom. The East Jersey Proprietors were mostly Scots seeking wealth. Although a few of them made efforts to establish plantations, most were purely speculators, and all sold their land to the real first settlers within a few years. A number of them were very wealthy and influential Scots at a time when the King of England was a Stuart of the Royal Scottish Line.

One of 24 East Jersey Proprietors was John Drummond, younger brother of James Drummond, Earl of Perth. John was granted 1000 acres between the mouth of Holland's Brook and Whiton Road on November 9, 1685.

The Earl of Perth was also one of the 24 proprietors.

In 1680 he had been deputy governor of Edinburgh Castle. Four years later he was named Secretary of State for the Kingdom of Scotland, and raised to an Earl. He enjoyed great influence with King James II of England and later accompanied him into exile in France. There, the King of France made him a Duke. He was considered one of the handsomest men of his time, and the finest dancer of the Royal Court.

I gather from the above that the Earl's New Jersey Expedition was intended to establish settlements in this territory which could then be exploited economically. William Sutherland and his companions, MacGregorie and Toshach, along with MacGregorie's flock of Presbyterian families were persuaded by the Governor of New York to move slightly north into that state. William was granted 1000 acres by Queen Anne, but he shared this with two other men. Later, he borrowed money against the land on two occasions, didn't pay this off, and lost the land. Clearly, he was not wealthy, but it doesn't sound as if he and his brothers (or cousins) were just peasant folk in Scotland.

The TOSCHACH (various spellings) connection:

David Toshach (Toshack, Toshuck) was associated with Col. Patrick MacGregorie and perhaps with William Sutherland.

A History of Deerpark in Orange Co., NY, by Peter E Gumaer and Minisink Valley Historical Society, 1890 p.31

"In 1684, Patrick McGregorie, his brother-in-law David Toshuck, who subscribed his name 'Laird of Minivard,' and twenty-five others, principally Scotch Presbyterians, purchased a tract of 4,000 acres, embracing lands on both sides of Murderer's Creek. Here, on Couwanham's Hill, so-called from its aboriginal owner, but now known as Plum Point, McGregorie built his cabin, and in the same vicinity were those of his associates, William Chambers, William Sutherland, and one Collum, while on the north side of the creek David Toshuck and his servant Daniel Maskrig established a trading post. (See Ruttenber's History of Orange County, p. 21,22)"

The connection of William Sutherland to MacGregorie and Toshach is made even stronger by the following: Cornwall, by Lewis Beach, 1873

This book spells out the relationship of Margaret Toshach to the group. She was the sister of David Toshach and wife of Col. Patrick MacGregorie. It also states,

"The names of the several families composing MacGregorie's settlement, cannot now be ascertained. One MacCollum settled near him; William Sutherland, the presumed ancestor of the present Canterbury family of that name, was another; and the name of Daniel Maskrig, in addition to that of Toshuck, also appears. Toshuck died in 1687....Toshuck left a widow and a son, the latter a minor at the time of his father's death." pp10-12

The same book contains a footnote: " Colonel Patrick MacGregorie came to this country with a number of followers, in 1684, first landing in Maryland and then proceeding north to Perth Amboy, in New Jersey. At the suggestion of Governor Dongan in 1685, he removed to Plum Point, just above the Hudson Highlands, where he built a log house and engaged in the Indian trade." p11

A relative of a correspondent was in Scotland and found a copy of the Earl Of Perth's charter for the lands in New Jersey. William Sutherland, Robert Southerland, and an Alexander Sutherland were named in the charter.

[See also notes for David Toshach]

From "Scots in the Mid-Atlantic Colonies, 1635-1783" by David Dobson:

TOSHACH, DAVID, of Monivaird, Perthshire, from Leith to East New Jersey in 1684

For full text of the following, see notes for Patrick MacGregorie

"In a broadside advertisement circulated in Scotland in 1683/84 urging settlers to sign up for East Jersey it states "in the shire of Pearth(sic) let them apply themselves to David Toshach of Monyvard and Captain Macgreiger....etc." After a harrowing crossing, during which one of their vessels was nearly wrecked in a hurricane off the Capes of Virginia they limped into port

in the Chesapeake at the Bohemia River (near the upper end of Chesapeake Bay),and then they had to make their way from there to East Jersey.

They eventually ended up in New Windsor, Orange Co NY, with the Toshachs and a number of Palatine families from Germany. Captain McGregory continued to lead troops, including an excursion ca 1687 into Ontario against the French (and Indians), where he was captured, but returned."

The above descriptions correlate perfectly with a voyage described in "Scottish Colonial Schemes 1620-1686" by George P. Insh, originally published in 1922 and reprinted in 2004. pp 165-167

"During the summer of 1684 two ships cleared from East Coast ports for East New Jersey, one from Montrose the other from Aberdeen. The ship from Aberdeen carried about 160 passengers, a number of whom had joined the vessel at Leith, where it had anchored, probably on its way round from London to Aberdeen. The Montrose ship had a long but comparatively uneventful voyage: 'The Passengers did all very well, though we had some very rough gusts, and were very thronged in so small a vessel, being 130 Souls, besides Sea-men: of these 27 were women, 6 or 7 children only; one man...called William Clark, standing carelessly upon the Forecastle tumbled over boards, and drowned, tho' we put out our boat and endeavoured in vain to save him.' Eighteen weeks after leaving Montrose, and nine weeks after leaving Killabeg in Ireland, this ship reached the American coast. 'The first land we discovered was about the middle of Long Island; it appeared at first like trees growing out of the Sea. Towards night we anchored in Sandy Hook.'

The other ship had a much shorter passage: 'we were only 8 weeks betwixt land and land, and entered the Capes of Virginia the same day 9 weeks we parted from Aberdeen.' But it had a much more exciting passage, 'occasioned by a mighty storm of wind (which happened upon the 12th day of September last) and which blew so tempestuously that, in short, it carried first away our Boltsprit, and afterwards our whole three Masts, Flagstaff and all, by the board, before the Sailors were able to get them out: it likewise took away the awning above our heads, all of which was done in the space of half an hour. We lay thus distressed like a pitiful wreck all that night, (we having lost our masts about 12 of the clock in the day) and two dayes thereafter at the mercie of the waves (which being like mountains occasioned by the great storm of wind) without hope of recovery, being then about 200 leagues from this land of America, tossing to and fro expecting that each wave should overwhelm us: Yet at last it pleased God to turn the storm into a calm: and having preserved all our lower Yards, we made all haste and made Jury Masts of them: with the help whereof (tho' very insufficient ones to drive forward the bulk of so great a vessel) and of God's miracuous Mercie and Providence Who - immediately after we had put our ship in any mean posture for plying out her Voyage - was pleased to send us such a fair and moderate gale of wind, as brought us in sight of the Capes of Virginia, with 15 days after, or thereabouts, having never ceased for the whole time till it brought us thither in safety. So we came within the capes, and sailed up that great Navigable Bay, called Chessapeik bay, up through all Virginia to Maryland, where we landed at the place where our ship was bound to take in her tobacco, for her homeward loadning. But being thus Disabled, and not being able to ply out her Voyage to this place (where she ought to have landed us), we was necessitated to travel from thence by Land to this place, being upwards of 200 English miles, and having left our Goods behind us, (which was thereafter to come about in a Sloup)...' "

In the appendix to Mr. Insh's book, the letter is attributed to "John Forbes, brother to the Laird of Barnla" and it further mentions that another passenger aboard was "Mr. Drummond, brother to John Drummond the Factor in Edinburgh." That would make him brother also to James Drummond, Fourth Earl of Perth. Another set of letters was written by another passenger, who describes the same voyage. He was Charles Gordon. In his letter he mentions "Governor Barclay" as a fellow passenger, as well as one of his own brothers.

Sources:

  1. Title: Sutherland Records

Author: Douglas Merrit
Publication: New York: T.A. Wright, 1918, 81 pgs.
Repository:
Media: Book

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William Sr. was our first ancestor to move to America. he arrived in New Jersey aboard the ship, The Henry and Francis in 1684 from Scotland. his best friends who sailed here with him were Patrick MacGregorie and David Toshach and David's sister, Margaret. Margaret was married to Patrick before they sailed here.

Patrick died in the 1690's and then married William Sr.